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Hidell: the frame was bold and ruthless

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Post by greg parker on Thu 10 Nov 2016, 3:32 pm

Ed. Ledoux wrote:As Greg noted,
Garcia was interviewed on 23nov63. There was no investigation of Hidell by NOPD or FBI after the August arrest. If Oswald was truly carrying FPCC cards signed by "A Hidell", they would have looked into this person.
Yes!!!

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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Thu 10 Nov 2016, 4:30 pm

greg parker wrote:Thanks Ed! The difference between your data dumps and certain other peoples? I can actually follow and comprehend yours!

This is what really happened. Desmare just made it all up. Apparently a long-standing practice in the industry.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-07-11/federal-background-checks-faked-by-some-investigators

This is where I originally wrote about it:
http://www.reopenkennedycase.org/apps/blog/show/42973070-the-undoing-of-a-fantasist

Thx Greg,
No worries, trying to get the pieces up and in an order is always difficult
It should make scrutinizing the data easier when done sequentially or as the story was told to spot weaknesses.

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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Thu 10 Nov 2016, 5:04 pm

Hidell backstopping was piss poor.

41 42 43 as SSN starting numbers on Oswald / Hidell cards.

Again all they would of had was the A. Hidell on the one card for FPCC to make stuff up, best be safe...

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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Thu 10 Nov 2016, 5:53 pm

Looks like HCD cc'd 1 person the report rather than there being a person with initials lcc

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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Thu 10 Nov 2016, 6:23 pm

RETAILERS COMMERCIAL AGENCY, INC. 1873 - Trademark Details
Status: 900 - Expired

Serial Number
72236416
Registration Number
0838546
Word Mark
RETAILERS COMMERCIAL AGENCY, INC. 1873
Status
900 - Expired
Status Date
1989-01-25
Filing Date
1966-01-13
Registration Number
0838546
Registration Date
1967-11-07
Mark Drawing
3000 - Illustration: Drawing or design which also includes word(s)/ letter(s)/number(s) Typeset
Design Searches
010701 - Globes with outlines of continents.

Statements

Disclaimer
THE DATE "1873" AND ALL WORDING APPEARING ON THE DRAWING ARE DISCLAIMED APART FROM THE MARK AS SHOWN.
Goods and Services
CONDUCTING INVESTIGATIONS AND REPORTING ON INDIVIDUALS AND BUSINESS CONCERNS CONCERNING THE CREDIT, CHARACTER AND FINANCES IN CONNECTION WITH CREDIT AND EMPLOYMENT TRANSACTIONS

Classification Information

International Class
035 - Advertising; business management; business administration; office functions. - Advertising; business management; business administration; office functions.
US Class Codes
101
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9 - Expired
Class Status Date
1989-01-25
Primary Code
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First Use Anywhere Date
1964-10-00
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History

Equifax was founded in Atlanta, GA, as Retail Credit Company in 1899. The company grew quickly and by 1920 had offices throughout the US and Canada. By the 1960s, Retail Credit Company was one of the nation's largest credit bureaus, holding files on millions of American and Canadian citizens. Even though they still did credit reporting the majority of their business was making reports to insurance companies when people applied for new insurance policies including life, auto, fire and medical insurance. All of the major insurance companies used RCC to get information on health, habits, morals, use of vehicles and finances. They also investigated insurance claims and made employment reports when people were seeking new jobs. Most of the credit work was then being done by a subsidiary, Retailers Commercial Agency.
Retail Credit Company's extensive information holdings, and its willingness to sell them to anyone, attracted criticism of the company in the 1960s and 1970s. These included that it collected "...facts, statistics, inaccuracies and rumors… about virtually every phase of a person's life; his marital troubles, jobs, school history, childhood, sex life, and political activities." The company was also alleged to reward its employees for collecting negative information on consumers.[3]
As a result, when the company moved to computerize its records, which would lead to much wider availability of the personal information it held, the US Congress held hearings in 1970. These led to the enactment of the Fair Credit Reporting Act in the same year which gave consumers rights regarding information stored about them in corporate databanks. It is alleged that the hearings prompted the Retail Credit Company to change its name to Equifax in 1975 to improve its image.[3]

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Her brother is Richmond,
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=18418145


Hidell Stamp,


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Post by greg parker on Fri 11 Nov 2016, 7:19 am

Brilliant stuff, Ed.

What's your bottom line?

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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Fri 11 Nov 2016, 4:36 pm

My best guesses Greg,

A Hidell was first.
Then A J 
Then Alex James.
They never had the names they themselves had checked earlier. 
My assumption is A. Hidell being used was how Oswald or intelligence would know he or it was being played if AJ Hidell came out the other end, if Im making sense.

Hidell was not inserted into assassination till frame was set on LHO. and no conspiracy involved.
Then everyone was free to AJ things up

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Post by greg parker on Fri 11 Nov 2016, 11:12 pm

Ed. Ledoux wrote:My best guesses Greg,

A Hidell was first.
Then A J 
Then Alex James.
They never had the names they themselves had checked earlier. 
My assumption is A. Hidell being used was how Oswald or intelligence would know he or it was being played if AJ Hidell came out the other end, if Im making sense.

Hidell was not inserted into assassination till frame was set on LHO. and no conspiracy involved.
Then everyone was free to AJ things up
If I follow, you're saying like a marked card? 

I'll have to relook at it all with that possibility in mind...

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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Sat 12 Nov 2016, 5:52 pm

I do not think Lee made or signed the Hideel vax cert.

Supposedly on June 8, 1963: Marina is rejected for treatment at the New Orleans Charity Hospital,
which makes LHO angry so he grabs a blank International Vaccination Certificate.

A J Haydel or more correct Alfred Haydel Jr?


Alfred D. Haydel Jr.

Born: ~1894 in Louisiana
36 years old in the 1930 U.S. Census
Police Jury Ward 1, St. John the Baptist Parish, Louisiana

  • Married
  • White
  • Male

Relationship to Head: Self
Spouse: Amédnaïde D. Haydel
Children: Inez M., Alvin G., and Irene F.








FBI checked out Alfred Haydel. CE 1141
Happens he worked at the Hospital Lee supposedly took Marina to and stole the blank Vaccination Cert. which is then 'doctored' to read Hideel?

http://www.muhleisen.com/obituaries/Inez-Hymel/#!/Obituary

Social Security number 434-28-6435 was issued to ALFRED HAYDEL, who was born 07 October 1893 and, Death Master File says, died June 1972.

The area remained under the French regime until 1768, when France delivered Louisiana to the Spanish. At this time the Acadians or "Cajuns" began arriving in South Louisiana after being exiled from Nova Scotia. The first Acadian settlement was established at what is now called Wallace. The French and German cultures mixed, with French becoming the dominant language. German names were given French translations. Heidel became Haydel, Ruber became Oubre, Treagor - Tregre and so on...
http://www.sjbparish.com/visitors_general.php?id=81


Albert J Haydel Jr even existed there in NO
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Haydel&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSob=n&GRid=79933528&


But back to Alfred D. working at hospitals, This is an Alfred D Haydel in 1919 Camp Travis in TX. this would make him 26yrs old here? This is the Base Hospital Detachment. The base would be taken over by Fort Sam Houston?

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FBI is checking ART or A J but at different hospital???


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The index cards with A J Hidell from Paines are another late arrival?


260

3.- 3x5 cards bearing the names G. HALL, A. J. HIDELL;

B. DAVIS and V. T. LEE. These cards evidently refer to

GUS HALL and BENJAMIN DAVIS, functionaries of the C.P.,

USA, and to V. T. LEE, head of the FPCC, and A. J. HIDELL,

alias of subject.



I underlined the 731 form is available when you travel, various ways. 5 cents to the Gov Printers.
The hospital or hospitals with quarantine stations is vague.
Plus the Forms Revised date and destruction of old forms have been discussed elsewhere/before.

Form is weird. The front of form, and fold, doesn't seem to match the fold on back?




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Post by greg parker on Sat 12 Nov 2016, 10:37 pm

Freakin outstanding, Ed.

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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Mon 14 Nov 2016, 6:19 pm

Mahalos Greg!

So much to lay eyes on in this case.

Sooo Much.

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Ed. Ledoux wrote:




Lee would have just wrote his name at the top like Keith's cert. above.

Why would he not take his wife to a VA hospital?
Has anyone seen the letter from the Hospital that is in the book Lee and Marina or is it Marina and Lee?
from this guy saying they did not treat Marina???


Now it was said she couldn't get help there as she had not lived there long enough to be considered a resident???
I call bullshit. And if your faking vax certs why not make one for Marina from a year ago and another locations dr.
to make case she was resident for a year (for arguments sake)

But the best is from they themselves.
Here is their words:

"Charity Hospital was once considered the safety net of New Orleans. It was a place where anyone could go and receive the best healthcare available. Established in 1736, by a French shipbuilder, whose dying wish was to fund a hospital for the poor. The first hospital building opened a year after New Orleans was founded in a small cottage located in the French Quarter. Charity Hospital quickly outgrew that facility and a handful of temporary hospitals sprung up around New Orleans. The administration was taken over by the Sisters of Charity, a group of Catholic nurses who would run the hospitals along with the Medical College of the University of Louisiana. By the 20th Century, New Orleans was rapidly growing and indigent care again exceeded Charity’s capacity."

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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Mon 14 Nov 2016, 7:44 pm

What do we have from Marina at Charity Hospital?

I think she would be admitted and seen and they would recapitulate this.
Any proof this is so?
How about the Hospitals records?
How about their accounting?



But many whites were turned away.
Not sure about expectant mothers, they usually are preferential.


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Fuck it why not check the month


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