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Post by barto on Fri 12 Aug 2016, 7:30 am

Last April I spoke about the second floor lunch room encounter as part of my Prayer Man presentation at the 14th DPUK seminar in Canterbury. Afterwards I wasn't happy with that segment to which Barry Keane suggested I'd write it up, which I did not realising the task that lay ahead.
 
At the link below I tried to cram every bit of info in there that is available on this alleged encounter.


There will be an interactive presentation to follow.
 
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Re: Anatomy Of A Second Floor Encounter

Post by barto on Thu 18 Aug 2016, 2:57 pm

Bump

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Re: Anatomy Of A Second Floor Encounter

Post by barto on Fri 23 Sep 2016, 5:24 am

Washington Post Nov 23rd 1963

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Re: Anatomy Of A Second Floor Encounter

Post by barto on Fri 23 Sep 2016, 8:11 am

The first highlighted bit refers to Molina, but the second  to the encounter. At 12:45?
http://www.prayer-man.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/WAshington-Post-Nov-24-1963-page-7-ROKC-Scan-1.jpg (click link for larger version)

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Re: Anatomy Of A Second Floor Encounter

Post by steely dan on Fri 23 Sep 2016, 9:14 am

The description of LHO in this article appears to have been provided by a couple of Australian budgies.

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Re: Anatomy Of A Second Floor Encounter

Post by greg parker on Fri 23 Sep 2016, 10:43 am

steely dan wrote:The description of LHO in this article appears to have been provided by a couple of Australian budgies.
That's right, Steely.

They tweeted it.

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Re: Anatomy Of A Second Floor Encounter

Post by steely dan on Fri 23 Sep 2016, 11:11 am

Budgies aside, (not sure why you would call them Judyth and Baker), it sounds like Bledsoe's "maniac" description is in and it needs to be promoted. This looks like the first version.

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Re: Anatomy Of A Second Floor Encounter

Post by greg parker on Fri 23 Sep 2016, 11:27 am

steely dan wrote:Budgies aside, (not sure why you would call them Judyth and Baker), it sounds like Bledsoe's "maniac" description is in and it needs to be promoted. This looks like the first version.
There are these repeated early references to the description of him (as opposed to an unknown suspect) going out over police radio. But it has to be utter bullshit without his name also going out. 

The birds are Judyth and Lee, btw.  Judyth just screeches and shits all day, while mysterious brown paper parcels keep turning up in Lee's cage.

I think you're right about the description. After-the-fact and unflattering additions to add to the portrait of a killer.

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Re: Anatomy Of A Second Floor Encounter

Post by steely dan on Fri 23 Sep 2016, 11:48 am

No chance of a photo then?

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Re: Anatomy Of A Second Floor Encounter

Post by greg parker on Fri 23 Sep 2016, 12:07 pm

steely dan wrote:No chance of a photo then?
Absolutely not. Judyth is publicity shy. She is the Greta Garbo of the bird world. "I want to shit alone" is her most moving tweet.

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Re: Anatomy Of A Second Floor Encounter

Post by barto on Sun 25 Sep 2016, 5:24 am

Debunking the 2nd floor lunch room encounter.
No. 1 podcast with more than 2,000 listens.
Thanks everyone!

http://www.tlgpodcast.com/shows/ep124-debunking-the-2nd-floor-lunchroom-encounter

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Re: Anatomy Of A Second Floor Encounter

Post by barto on Sun 09 Oct 2016, 3:55 am

Almost 3,200 listens, more than 1,200 clear of the No. 2!!!!
Shows ROKC is doing something right!

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Post by Hasan Yusuf on Sun 09 Oct 2016, 2:32 pm

barto wrote:Almost 3,200 listens, more than 1,200 clear of the No. 2!!!!
Shows ROKC is doing something right!

That's fucking awesome.

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Post by Vinny on Mon 10 Oct 2016, 1:11 am

Congrats Barto.

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Re: Anatomy Of A Second Floor Encounter

Post by Paul Francisco Paso on Mon 10 Oct 2016, 2:12 pm

Barto I am going to regurgitate some of your stuff on the podcast while talking about PM. This 2FE nonsense has to be killed off. Congrats on your stuff bro. You're top notch.

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Re: Anatomy Of A Second Floor Encounter

Post by steely dan on Mon 10 Oct 2016, 6:39 pm

Almost 60,000 views for Barto's movie. Stinky's PW version has yet to reach 1800, one year after its release.

Brian, the public have voted.
We tried to warn you.....

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Re: Anatomy Of A Second Floor Encounter

Post by barto on Mon 10 Oct 2016, 8:59 pm

Thanks all, these results are more than enough to keep at it!!!

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Re: Anatomy Of A Second Floor Encounter

Post by Ed. Ledoux on Fri 14 Oct 2016, 4:40 pm

Very logical.
And well done Bart.

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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Fri 14 Oct 2016, 6:06 pm

"down on my knees all fours I could have done it (the recreation) faster"

That was classic

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Re: Anatomy Of A Second Floor Encounter

Post by barto on Tue 18 Oct 2016, 6:05 am

More Trulyisms.

The_Philadelphia_Inquirer_Mon__Jun_27__1966_


Abilene Reporter News February 10, 1964



The_Philadelphia_Inquirer_Mon__Feb_10__1964_


Philadelphia_Daily_News_Mon__Nov_29__1982_


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Post by Hasan Yusuf on Tue 18 Oct 2016, 3:45 pm

When I zoom in to read the writing, it becomes illegible. It's starting to piss me off.

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Re: Anatomy Of A Second Floor Encounter

Post by Ed. Ledoux on Wed 19 Oct 2016, 1:58 pm

Bart. Can you translate these "Trulyisms" 
I strain to make them out

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Re: Anatomy Of A Second Floor Encounter

Post by barto on Thu 20 Oct 2016, 12:21 am

Check again above.

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Re: Anatomy Of A Second Floor Encounter

Post by greg parker on Thu 20 Oct 2016, 8:06 am

thanks Barto.

A couple of interesting notes.

If the witness under discussion was Williams, why no mention of the other two who were supposed to be with him - and - if these stories are accurate, it is evidence that Williams never did go to the 6th floor, he only went up as far as the 5th just as he originally said.

As for Truly... the account given in the story titled "FBI TRACES RIFLE TO OSWALD" has Roberts claiming "Oswald" came in at 12:45. But that is also the time they have Oswald leaving the TSBD and being stopped and questioned by a cop and given the okay by Truly. That timing, I think, fits with the Rambler?   

Oh and a brief mention from the last story above of the fact that the curtain hung across a shelf, was strung up with string, but the string was sagging. Curtain rods anyone? Not that Lee was living there... just one of those things...


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Re: Anatomy Of A Second Floor Encounter

Post by barto on Thu 20 Oct 2016, 6:54 pm

The whole Thayer Waldo story has never been nailed down as irrefutable AFAIK. Weisberg had a load of stuff on it but I could not figure out that this was true or not.

The departure thing reeks to high heaven, especially with Oz being at the top of the so called roll call list.

And yes I think Craig was right with the rambler and Oswald's sighting which means the bus / cab / Roberts is just bull......

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