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Ruth Paine and Naushon Island

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Post by Vinny on Thu 18 Aug 2016, 12:52 am

Another of Greg's threads from webs.

Ruth Paine and Naushon Island





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Most know that RP took a trip from Texas via Massachusetts to pick up Marina Oswald in New Orleans. We will take a look at three of the inhabitants of the 7 mile long island - a holiday haven owned by the Forbes for over 100 years.   Ruth Paine, despite her separation from Michael, was still permited to use his holiday home there.



Richard and Jenny Alberts come to us through an FBI investgation of all the people phoned by RP in Massachesetts along with all of those in her address book. 



Richard was employed as a ferryman by the Forbes family company and the island house came with the job. It just happened to be the one next door to the Paines. In regard to Michael, the FBI report has this to say: "Although friendly with Paine, they were not on the same social level and did not mix socially." It goes on to say that the family is "well-to-do", do not need to work and entertain often. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=10918&relPageId=9



Does the couple described here sound like the charitable quaker/unitarian hybrid who took in and gave succor to a couple below the Alberts in social standing? 



The other person comes to us via a USSS commissioned investigation for the purpose of finding out how many homes on the island were rented out and who to. There doesn't seem to be much point to such an exercise unless the USSS suspected something. Did they have information they were acting on, or was this a fishing expedition?



A list of renters was obtained from David Forbes. On that list was Donald B. Straus, described in the report as President of American Arbitration Board in New York.http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=11086&relPageId=2



So who was Straus? Donald was a cousin to Roger Straus, Jr. who in turn was the son of Roger Straus, Sr. Roger, Sr, was the president of the Lavenburg Foundation which built and financed Youth House and the housing apartments which were home to the Rosenbergs in the 1940s. Junior was a part owner of Howard Hunt's publisher, Farrar, Straus & Giroux (aslo the publisher of Jean Stafford's bio of Marguerite) and provided Hunt with a reference for "government service" (read: CIA). Members of the same family also owned the department store that employed the wife of George Hunter White.



Another family member, Nathan Staus III, kept close company with Leo Cherne from at least 1971 in a group they called "American Friends of a Free Haiti". Cherne was head of the International Rescue Committee  - a CIA front.    



 


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Awesome!

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Post by Vinny on Thu 18 Aug 2016, 12:54 am


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All just a coincidence?

Thank for posting this Greg.

Quite an interesting group represented, all could be consulted on pre-assassination questions. Doctor, Lawyer, Physicist, Editor, Banker, etc.
Myron Hofer is likely Myron Arm Hofer, MD

The connections to Youth House, Hunt, White, Cherne, Rosenbergs and others leaves minimal doubt that a plot was formed and Ruth met with the group whom would benefit and carry out this plot. Got her marching orders and buried Oswald.

And isn't there always a 'ferryman' involved in the devils actions.

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Great stuff Greg!

Very interesting. 
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Mick Purdy at December 5, 2015 at 4:05 PM




Great stuff Greg!
Very interesting. 

Thanks Mick. Forgotten I'd posted this.
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Fascinating, Greg! Good work! I always wondered how a middle-class housewife who was separated from her husband - her Paine connection - was able to stay on the elite Nashuon Island. 

Speaking of Straus...There was also the infamous Neoconservative founder Leo Strauss - but it's spelled with a double "s". He was the godfather of the Neocons at UChicago. Chaney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld etc... etc...the whole pack of war crimnals....and the Project for the New American Century. Pure evil. Wonder if they're related somehow?  (A spelliing change on Ellis Island from Strauss to Straus? Happened a lot.) 


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David Talbot mentions in 'Devil's Chessboard' that Allen Dulles & Mary Bancroft recieved invites from Ruth Forbes Paine to Naushon Island. (Source: Talbot interview with Ruth Hyde Paine). We know that Bancroft spent considerable time there. Not sure about Dulles.
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Andy A. at December 13, 2015 at 8:53 PM




David Talbot mentions in 'Devil's Chessboard' that Allen Dulles & Mary Bancroft recieved invites from Ruth Forbes Paine to Naushon Island. (Source: Talbot interview with Ruth Hyde Paine). We know that Bancroft spent considerable time there. Not sure about Dulles.

Thanks, Andy. I think that's interesting information. 
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DONALD B. STRAUS Sept. 25, 2008, at 11:18 p.m. MOUNT DESERT Â? Donald Blun Straus, 91, an influential leader in education, conflict resolution and population control, died peacefully Sept. 3, 2007, at his home. Mr. Straus was born June 28, 1916, in Middletown, N.J., the son of Percy and Edith Abraham Straus. Percy Straus was president of R.H. MacyÂ?s landmark New York store, founded by DonaldÂ?s grandfather, Isidor. Isidor and Ida Straus died on the Titanic after they allowed others to take their places in a lifeboat. Mr. Straus graduated from Harvard University in 1938 and earned his master of business administration degree in 1940 from Harvard. He and Elizabeth Allen were married Sept. 7, 1940. He was a member of the Century Association, the Knickerbocker Club, the Harvard Club of New York City and the Pot and Kettle Club of Bar Harbor. Mr. Straus served at various times as executive director of the labor relations panel of the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission, vice president of the Health Insurance Plan of Greater New York, president of the American Arbitration Association, a consultant to the International Institute of Applied Systems Analysis and a member of the New York Board of Mediation. He served as chairman of the board of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America and on the boards of the International Council of Commercial Arbitration, the Population Resources Commission, the Society of Human Ecology, the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, the Institute for Advanced Study and College of the Atlantic. Mr. Straus was an early advocate of non-adversarial conflict resolution and of online computer conferencing and online education and referendums. He taught an online course in Democracy in the 21st Century for Connected Education. Mr. Straus and his wife, the former Elizabeth Allen, lived in New York City for many years and summered at their home at the head of Somes Sound. Mr. Straus was an intrepid, daring sailor, often exploring shallow gunk holes in search of remote anchorages. He and Beth often cruised along the Maine coast in their cutter, Sea Otter, alone and with friends and family. In later years, they eventually turned to a twin-diesel lobster boat and to a 12-foot Herreshoff sloop, Pinniped. When not cruising, he and Beth would row their dinghy together in perfect synchronicity on Somes Sound. Mr. Straus loved to reminisce about his sailing life, such as crossing the Atlantic and the Pacific as an undergraduate and cruising in the Baltic with friends. One of his favorite stories was his unsuccessful effort to conceal from Beth that he had run the Sea Otter aground near Castine and had had to wait for the incoming tide to refloat her. Another early passion was flying and Mr. Straus flew his own plane cross-country to California to propose to Beth. Mr. Straus is survived by his beloved wife of 67 years, Beth; their three children, sons, David and wife, Patricia, and Robert; their daughter, Sara Byruck and husband, Marcus, all of Cambridge, Mass.; David and PatriciaÂ?s two daughters, Sara Farrer and her husband, Luke Farrer, and their two children, Emma and Toby, and Rebecca Straus; RobÂ?s two children, Lisa and Drew; and Sara and MarcusÂ? two children, Mischa and Chloe. He was predeceased by his son RobertÂ?s wife, Sheryl Foti. A memorial ceremony will be announced. 
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I'll start by disposing of the titanic myth. The story is true, but not so heroic as history pretends. Great tragedies such as this scream out for equally great stories of heroism and sacrifice. If none exist, tthen they must be invented. 



As I said, the basics are true. What is left out is that everyone on that ship believed all would be saved. In fact, it's not hard to imagine that some would believe your chances were better staying on board an "unsinkable" ship rather risk a dinky lifeboat. Reports from survivors in fact indicate that they believed the lifeboats were merely a precaution and that there was a rescue boat nearby. 



As for Donald - that cv reeks of CIA  - it may also connect him to people like paine's stepfather...
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