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Post by Steve Thomas on Thu 01 Dec 2016, 11:36 pm

http://www.ripleys.com/weird-news/unboxing-lee-harvey-oswald-the-kennedy-assassination/

My, what good ears you have grandma!

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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Fri 02 Dec 2016, 4:19 am

Amazing find Steve!


Porter on the porch,



Mary Bledsoe

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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Fri 02 Dec 2016, 5:44 am

that looks like a large house next to her ... 623? N Marsalis
Is that where she ran, next door to tell "them" about JFK?

And whom are the other gentlemen?
Two maybe sons.

EB Germany lived till 1971...

https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?15169-Persons-Of-Interest-Connected-to-Ennis-TX-Pop-10-000-What-Were-Ennis-People-Aware-Of#.WEBfUly0fSE

Tom Scully connected Webbs/OV Cambell to the Bledsoe/Germany clan.
But that doesn't do EB Germany justice.






Thomas Absolom Germany (Mary Germany Bledsoe's grandfather) and John Wesley Germany Jr. (Eugene Benjamin Germany's father) were half brothers, sons of

John Wesley Germany (Sr.)

Birth 4 Jun 1796 in St Paul Parish, Columbia, Georgia, United States Death 5 Jul 1864 in Kemper, Mississippi, United States

John Wesley Germany's second wife, Eliza Jane Morris, grandmother of Eugene Benjamin Germany.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...&GRid=13513942
https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/fge11

GERMANY, EUGENE BENJAMIN (1892–1971). Eugene Benjamin Germany, industrialist, independent oil producer, and civic leader, was born in Sweetwater, Texas, on September 18, 1892, the son of John Wesley and Arona (Lea) Germany. He attended public schools at Murchison and Grand Saline, worked in the local salt plant, and was a student at Southwestern University at Georgetown from 1910 to 1912. Germany was a teacher and high school principal in Grand Saline for six years and during the summers attended Southern Methodist University, where he acquired training as a geologist. From 1916 to 1927 he worked in the oil business. He started at Mexia and became a lease broker, independent operator, and consulting geologist associated with enterprises including Gadley Oil and Calto Oil companies. In 1928 in Dallas he formed a partnership with Thomas Cranfill, the Cranfill and Germany Oil Company, which was later named E. B. Germany and Sons and had holdings in Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, and New Mexico.
Germany wrote for business and professional publications and published a regular column, "The Way I See It," in East Texas newspapers. He served as mayor of Highland Park from 1934 to 1942 and in 1940 managed the campaign of John Nance Garner for the Democratic nomination for president. He served twice as state Democratic chairman, under governors W. Lee O'Daniel and Coke Stevenson. In 1944 he was a Texas elector at large and campaign coordinator for five congressional districts for the Texas Regulars, an anti-Roosevelt faction of Texas Democrats. Germany was appointed chairman of the Texas Industrial Commission in 1958. In 1947 he became president of the Lone Star Steel Company, originally a government project, which he acquired in January 1948 and expanded into a fully integrated steel mill. During his presidency he used the right-to-work law to break a violent strike. He was later president of the Mustang Oil Company and its subsidiaries.
Germany helped build the Cozby-Germany Hospital, the first hospital in Van Zandt County. He was founder of the Preston State Bank, vice president of Dallas Methodist Hospital, director of Scottish Rite Crippled Children's Hospital, chairman of the board of the Highland Park State Bank, director of the International Travelers Assurance Company, president and board member of the Independent Petroleum Association of Texas, trustee of Southwestern University, president of the Texas State Parks Development Association, president of the East Texas Chamber of Commerce, and president of the Texas Manufacturers Associationqv. During World War II he was an organizer of the first air unit of the Texas Defense Guard (see TEXAS STATE GUARD). In July 1942 he was appointed intelligence officer on the wing staff of the Civil Air Patrol and group commander of the Dallas CAP.
Germany was a Mason and a Shriner. On June 8, 1915, he married Maggie Lee Wilson; they had three children. Germany died in Dallas on July 12, 1971, and was buried at Woodville Cemetery in Grand Saline. ....

And the undertaker of John Germany was a relative of Fannie,
A curious thing about this man is that he was a widower who married a women young enough to be his daughter, and this second wife was the first cousin of his son-in-law, James Eulys Bledsoe.:

1900 US Census. Mary Germany Bledoe's father's Dr. John Warren Germany, future wife, Icis Bledsoe is 7 years old. Her father James Madison Bledsoe, died three years earlier, in 1897:


Fannie Bleadsoe 38
Ethel Bleadsoe 16
Elgin Bleadsoe 14
Nellie Bleadsoe 10
Jcie Bleadsoe 7

What strange relatives., But Back to EB GERMANY
Here is on this council with Judge Sarah Hughes, Earl Cabell and other notables.

Rubbing shoulders with the 11/22 players as I like to call them.


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Mike Sennett Conner, E. B. Germany and Sam Jones posing together at the Democratic National Convention (EB IS IN THE MIDDLE)




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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Fri 02 Dec 2016, 5:59 am

Okay lets tie this up with a bow,

William Marvin Watson was born on June 6, 1924, in Oakhurst, Texas, and attended Baylor University. When the United States entered World War II, Watson left school to serve in the Pacific with the Marines. Following the conclusion of the war, with the help of the G.I. Bill, Watson returned to Baylor, where he received his master's in business administration.
After graduation, Watson became the executive assistant to E. B. Germany, the president of Lone Star Steel Company. He also was chosen, in 1958, as a member of the Texas State Democratic Committee. While serving in that capacity, Watson created one of the first Johnson-for-President clubs in Texas; as a result of his early work on Johnson's behalf, Watson was asked to serve as Johnson's convention coordinator. After Johnson was elected President in 1965, Watson was appointed White House special assistant.
Watson was Johnson's appointments secretary and served as liaison with Democratic governors, big-city mayors, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the Democratic National Committee. His powers grew to include many of those assumed by the White House chief of staff after Bill D. Moyers resigned that position on December 14, 1966. Watson was also involved in helping President Johnson decide not to seek reelection.
In April 1968, acting on his belief that the postal system needed reform, Johnson appointed Watson as postmaster general. Watson created new regulations governing the mailing of firearms, which included identifying the contents and notification of such parcels before delivery. Watson retired from that post in January 1969.


Watson, ties to EB, EB to Bledsoe and OV Cambell and directly to Johnson and other Democrats, yet EB was a conservative reactionary...

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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Fri 02 Dec 2016, 7:33 am

Forrest Germany keeps popping up ...
Norman Garvin Germany, age 85, to some he was Bowser. To others he was Pappy. To all, he was loved. Our beloved husband, father, grandfather and friend passed away Thursday, September 21, 2006 in Dallas, Texas. A memorial service will be held on Tuesday, September 26, at 10:30 AM at the Highland Park United Methodist Church.

Born July 10, 1921, to E. B. (Gene) Germany and Maggie Wilson Germany in Grand Saline, Texas, Norman Germany was preceded in death by his parents, his brother Wilson Germany and his grandson David Callan.

He is survived by his wife of 67 years, Marjorie Forrest Germany, daughters Jean Germany Bentley, Susie Germany, Patty Germany of Dallas and son, Forrest Germany and wife Debbie of Jackson, MS. He is also survived by his grandchildren: Amye Tatum Johnson and husband Jeff of Portland, Ore., Ben Callan and wife Kelley of Santa Fe, N. M., Laurie Callan Mitchell and husband Johnny of Dallas, Gary Fulkerson and wife Lisa of Bend, Ore., Maggie Fulkerson Pieper of San Antonio, Texas, Paige Germany of Dallas, Jennifer Germany Croswell and husband Bobby of Jackson Hole, Wyo., Benjamin Germany of Dallas, Michael Germany of Jackson, Miss. and 6 great-grandchildren.

He graduated from Highland Park High School and Southern Methodist University. After serving in the Army Air Corps, he joined his father in the oil and gas exploration and production business, actively engaged in the exploration for oil and gas in Texas, Louisiana and Mississippi. He served as President and Chairman of Germany Exploration Company, Chairman of the Board of Directors of Energy Drilling Company (Natchez, MS) and was most active in the restoration of the Eola Hotel and other historic buildings in Downtown Natchez, Mississippi. He also served as a member of the Board of Directors for Preston State Bank.

He was an avid fan of the SMU Mustangs and the Dallas Cowboys. His life long passions, other than Margie, were sailing and aviation. He was very active in many community and industry related clubs including Dallas Country Club, Dallas Petroleum Club, All American Wildcatters, Explorers Club, the American Association of Petroleum Landmen and the Independent Petroleum Association of America.

The Germany family would like to thank Karen, Irene, Gayle, Hugo and Jane of the VNA Hospice Program for their loving care and support.

In lieu of flowers, please send donations in his honor to Agape Place, 738 W. 10th Street, Dallas, TX 75208.

Published in Clarion Ledger on Sept. 24, 2006 - See more at: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/clarionledger/obituary.aspx?pid=19313826#sthash.xMTsxNgw.dpuf

Published in Clarion Ledger on Sept. 24, 2006


EB GERMANY
&
Forrest Germany

Are these the "Oil Depletion Allowance" men whom had rumors spread they killed Kennedy?

As recent the companies have come under suit (actually they have been litigants in several cases):

FACTS
7.
From at least 2008 until approximately May 2010, Defendants raised at least $600,000 from at least 36 investors – many located in Dallas, Texas – through a fraudulent, unregistered offering of oil-and-gas-related securities. Specifically, Defendants offered and sold securities relating to three oil and gas projects located in Mississippi and Texas: (1) working interests in three oil and gas wells and a saltwater disposal well located in the Dexter Field in Walthal County, Mississippi (collectively “the Dexter Field project”); (2) working interests in a gas well project known as the East Athens Pipeline; and (3) promissory notes providing that interest would be payable with working interests in the Northwest Summit oil and gas project located in Pike County, Mississippi. Some of the funds raised in these offerings were wired by investors to EB Germany’s bank accounts in Dallas, Texas.


Senate Seat Can't Be Bought

First were the Democrats who came out openly for Bush. The vehicle for this
defection was called Conservative Democrats for Bush, chaired by Ed Drake,
the former leader of the state's Democrats for Eisenhower in 1952. Drake
was joined by former Governor Allan Shivers, who had also backed Ike and
Dick in 1952 and 1956. Then there was the "East Texas Democrats for George
Bush Committee," chaired by E.B. Germany, the former state Democratic
leader, a leader of Scottish Rite Freemasons in Texas and in 1964 the
chairman of the board of Lone Star Steel.


SMU Senate Soon To Offer Rotating Chair
The Student Committee on
Academic Endowment has received
a pledge of $5,000 for the
rotating chair for a visiting professor
from the E. B. Germany '
and Son Foundation.
The Germany donation will be
given to SMU in installments of
$500 a year for ten years. In addition
to this pledge, the committee
has collected $2,000 in
cash. The majority of this money
has come in as a result of the
letters which were sent to parents
before Christmas, according
to Steve Sharp, committee chairman.
The chair also has been
promised $2,000 a year for as
long as it is in existence.
At the moment the committee
has enlisted the aid of the Theta
and Pi Phi pledges to call approximately
1500 Dallas parents.

December 14, 1939: “E.B. Germany, co-chairman of the Garner-for-President Committee, says in a nation-wide radio broadcast from Dallas, Texas that Vice President Garner would be a candidate and would, at the proper time, make known “his willingness to accept the nomination for President.”” (NYT)


Woodside Cemetery is where they rest,

Arona Lee
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Germany&GSiman=1&GScnty=2753&GRid=13513942&

Gene
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Germany&GSiman=1&GScnty=2753&GRid=13513941&

Maggie Lee
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Germany&GSiman=1&GScnty=2753&GRid=13513946&

John W, would have been in 40th Mississippi during civil war?
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Germany&GSiman=1&GScnty=2753&GRid=13513943&

LBJ library has EB GERMANY interview:
E. B. Germany (A) AC 79-82, Interview 1.


Here we have the reason EB's son started a company (co-founded) called "Cranfill"
www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/80R/billtext/html/HR00042I.htm

His relative was a Cranfill:
 
96.  ALICE ARONA10 LEA (EDWARD PEYTON9, AARON VAN HOOK8, JAMES C.7, WILLIAM6, JAMES5, JOHN C.4, WILLIAM3, WILLIAM2 LEIGH, WILLIAM1 LEA) was born November 19, 1870 in Falls County Texas, and died January 13, 1958 in Grand Saline, Van Zandt County, Texas.  She married JOHN WESLEY GERMANY.  He was born 1843, and died 1931.
       
Children of ALICE LEA and JOHN GERMANY are:
110.            i.    EUGENE BENJAMIN11 GERMANY, b. 1893; d. 1971.
                  ii.    VIRGINIA GERMANY.
 
More About VIRGINIA GERMANY:
Note: February 1922, Attending Women's College in Fort Worth, Texas
 
111.          iii.    GARVIN HOLT GERMANY, b. 1894; d. 1969.
                 iv.    MYRA E. GERMANY, b. 1915.
 
 
97.  LULA C.10 LEA (EDWARD PEYTON9, AARON VAN HOOK8, JAMES C.7, WILLIAM6, JAMES5, JOHN C.4, WILLIAM3, WILLIAM2 LEIGH, WILLIAM1 LEA) was born 1875 in Falls County, Texas, and died Aft. 1931.  She married CHARLES BASHAW.  He died Aft. 1931.
 
More About LULA C. LEA:
Note: February 1931, Lived in Leakey, Real County, Texas
Note  II: September 1922, Lived in Gainesville, Florida
 
More About CHARLES BASHAW:
Emigration: 1930, To Leakey, Texas to care for Ida Peach Lea Freeman
       
Children of LULA LEA and CHARLES BASHAW are:
                   i.    CHARLES11 BASHAW.
                  ii.    POLLY BASHAW.
 
 
98.  MARY ELLEN10 LEA (JOSEPH ADDISON9, AARON VAN HOOK8, JAMES C.7, WILLIAM6, JAMES5, JOHN C.4, WILLIAM3, WILLIAM2 LEIGH, WILLIAM1 LEA) was born January 28, 1883 in Durango, Falls County, Texas, and died January 26, 1931 in Cisco, Eastland County, Texas, of pneumonia.  She married FLEMING BERRY MATHEWS June 21, 1907 in Stephens County, Texas, son of RANDOLPH MATHEWS and COURTNEY WHITNEY.  He was born December 12, 1865 in Clarksville, Red River County, Texas, and died November 10, 1938 in Luling, Caldwell County, Texas, car accident while on his way to an assignment with Agriculture Department in San Antonio.
 
More About MARY ELLEN LEA:
Burial: January 28, 1931, Oakwood Cemetery, Cisco, Eastland County, Texas
Education: 1905, Graduated from the College of Industrial Arts, Denton, Texas (later Texas Womens University)
Note: Bet. 1925 - 1931, Gained fame for raising prize Silver Lace Wyandotte chickens
Religion: Baptist
 
More About FLEMING BERRY MATHEWS:
Burial: November 12, 1938, Oakwood Cemetery, Cisco, Eastland County Texas
Emigration: February 1910, From Indian Creek, Brown  County to Uvalde County
Emigration I: September 1910, From Uvalde to Algerita and Richland Springs, San Saba County
Emigration II: 1913, From Richland Springs, San Saba County to  Brownwood, Brown County
Emigration III: 1915, From Brownwood,  Brown County to Ebony,  Mill County
Emigration IV: 1918, From Ebony, Mill County to Port Arthur, Jefferson, Texas
Emigration V: 1919, From Port Arthur, Jefferson County, to Cisoc,  Eastland County (Mary Ellen Lea's lung condition)
Note: His daugter Erma Mathews McNatt remebered him as being over six feet, on tthe heavy side,  and dark complected
Occupation: Bet. 1881 - 1891, Rode the Chisolm Trial as a cowboy.
Occupation II: Bet. 1919 - 1925, Peace officer, Breckenridge, Texas (while living in Cisco)
Occupation III: Bet. 1925 - 1938, Trapper (Wolf Hunter), United States  Bureau of Biological Survey
Religion: Baptist
       
Children of MARY LEA and FLEMING MATHEWS are:
                   i.    FLEDA BLANCHE11 MATHEWS, b. December 29, 1909, Indian Creek, Brown County, Texas; d. January 17, 1993, Dallas, Dallas County, Texas, of tuberculosis.
 
More About FLEDA BLANCHE MATHEWS:
Burial: Hillcrest Memorial, Dallas, Dallas County, Texas
Education: Texas State University for Women, Denton, Texas (later Texas Womens University)
Note: Never married
Note I: Her tombstone says she was born in 1910, but she was three months old when he family made the move to Uvalde in March 1910
Occupation: Owner of Marj Stationers; one of the most respected paper goods consultants in Dallas Texas. She never married but was much loved by her nephews and nieces.
 
112.           ii.    JENNY LEA MATHEWS, b. April 03, 1914, 401 Coggin Street, Brownwood, Brown County, Texas.
113.          iii.    FLEMING BERRY MATHEWS, JR., b. July 29, 1917, Ebony, Mills County, Texas; d. July 27, 1971, Dallas, Dallas County, Texas, lung cancer.
 
 
99.  FREEMAN CRANFILL10 LEA (JOSEPH ADDISON9, AARON VAN HOOK8, JAMES C.7, WILLIAM6, JAMES5, JOHN C.4, WILLIAM3, WILLIAM2 LEIGH, WILLIAM1 LEA) was born June 04, 1893.  He married VELVA (W/O FREEMAN C. LEA) Aft. 1920. 

 

More About FREEMAN CRANFILL LEA:

Burial: Iraan, Texas

Census: 1920, Cisco, Eastland County, in household of J A Lea with, Newton, Norman, and J A Lea, Jr.

Note 1: Twin of Norman

Note 2: January 1931, Lived in Red Barn, Texas

Occupation: Humble Oil Company


Born July 10, 1921, to E. B. (Gene) Germany and Maggie Wilson Germany in Grand Saline, Texas, Norman Germany was preceded in death by his parents, his brother Wilson Germany and his grandson David Callan.

He is survived by his wife of 67 years, Marjorie Forrest Germany, daughters Jean Germany Bentley, Susie Germany, Patty Germany of Dallas and son, Forrest Germany and wife Debbie of Jackson, MS. He is also survived by his grandchildren: Amye Tatum Johnson and husband Jeff of Portland, Ore., Ben Callan and wife Kelley of Santa Fe, N. M., Laurie Callan Mitchell and husband Johnny of Dallas, Gary Fulkerson and wife Lisa of Bend, Ore., Maggie Fulkerson Pieper of San Antonio, Texas, Paige Germany of Dallas, Jennifer Germany Croswell and husband Bobby of Jackson Hole, Wyo., Benjamin Germany of Dallas, Michael Germany of Jackson, Miss. and 6 great-grandchildren.

He graduated from Highland Park High School and Southern Methodist University. After serving in the Army Air Corps, he joined his father in the oil and gas exploration and production business, actively engaged in the exploration for oil and gas in Texas, Louisiana and Mississippi. He served as President and Chairman of Germany Exploration Company, Chairman of the Board of Directors of Energy Drilling Company (Natchez, MS) and was most active in the restoration of the Eola Hotel and other historic buildings in Downtown Natchez, Mississippi. He also served as a member of the Board of Directors for Preston State Bank.

He was an avid fan of the SMU Mustangs and the Dallas Cowboys. His life long passions, other than Margie, were sailing and aviation. He was very active in many community and industry related clubs including Dallas Country Club, Dallas Petroleum Club, All American Wildcatters, Explorers Club, the American Association of Petroleum Landmen and the Independent Petroleum Association of America.

The Germany family would like to thank Karen, Irene, Gayle, Hugo and Jane of the VNA Hospice Program for their loving care and support.

In lieu of flowers, please send donations in his honor to Agape Place, 738 W. 10th Street, Dallas, TX 75208.

Published in Clarion Ledger on Sept. 24, 2006 - See more at: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/clarionledger/obituary.aspx?pid=19313826#sthash.xMTsxNgw.dpuf


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Post by greg parker on Fri 02 Dec 2016, 8:35 am

Ed, this is to "who did it" as PM is to "who didn't".

The CAP / LBJ  connections once again...

In conjunction with the Dems For Bush etc there is also this from http://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t16-send-lawyers-guns-money-pt2


1970: Grier and Louise's eldest son, Grier, Jr starts up a journal called "The New Democrat" which he edits with Stephen Schlesinger, son of JFK aide and historian, Arthur

October 26, 1970: Conservative journalist, John Chamberlain writes widely published article, "Where else Can Democrats Go?" predicts that Raggio (whom Chamberlain describes as a Mayor John Lindsay functionary) and Schlesinger are "sewing the dragon's teeth" through their support of McGovern which he states will lead to problems at the '72 convention unless the Left gets its way 

1972: Gary Allen, a John Birch Society propagandist and author of "None Dare Call it Conspiracy" publishes "Richard Nixon: The Man Behind the Mask" which quotes from the Chamberlain article, suggesting that Nixon and some of the Left in the Democratic Party are "part of the same conspiracy".

According to Allen, the Left, with Raggio and Schlesinger playing prominent roles, will split the party, ensuring an easy win for Nixon

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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Fri 02 Dec 2016, 9:19 am

Ed, this is to "who did it" as PM is to "who didn't".

Agreed, Thanks Greg.
PM gives us latitude to see whom did it.

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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Fri 02 Dec 2016, 10:37 am

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth285884/m1/9/

An intriguing article!

EB Germany


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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Sat 03 Dec 2016, 12:29 am

This Bledsoe spent a lot of time and money to locate origin of the surname in Prussia/Germany

"The surname BLEDSOE, as with BEDSOLE, originated in Prussia which became Germany. That is NOT to say that Lewis Bletso, b. 1600 did not originate in England, as he assuredly did. But I have no question that HIS ancestors came from Prussia. Prior to Prussia,...who knows ?." -JD Bledsoe



Mary's son Porter needs more attention,




Military Service

Branch of service: Us Navy, Us Navy
Rank attained: PO3
Wars/Conflicts: World War II, Korea


Petty Officer Third Class or equivalent of a Corporal.


Mr. JENNER - When your son was in the Navy, did he have a duffelbag?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - No. Now, it was so long ago--it was--I don't know whether he did. I don't think he did. He didn't. He was an instructor at TI.
Mr. JENNER - Was he stationed here in Dallas?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - No, TI. Treasure Island.
Mr. JENNER - Oh, Treasure Island. How long did this discussion with him in the room take?
If Porter kept his service private, especially going to foreign theaters of war, Porter may have spared his mothers agony by giving her the TI address in San Fran.
Then again he could have just given her his units address stateside and his mail would naturally be forwarded to him.
But if he was an Naval instructor in languages or other Diplomatic Affairs he could be reservist instructor, or receiving other instruction.
OR
Dick Bledsoe her other son, whom did live in California, was he there in San Fransisco? At TI? Is Mary confusing them?

7 A Military Seminar for Dental officers of the U.S. Naval Reserve not
on active duty will be held at the Naval Station, Treasure Island, during the
Annual Session of the American Dental Association, at San Francisco,
October 17-19, 1955. Points for promotion and retirement may be earned
by Reserve Dental Officers by attending various meetings of the seminar
which will be of military or professional interest and conducted by author-
ized military personnel. Further information and details will be announced
at a later date. (TIO, BuMed)





Social Security number 460-22-3745 was issued to PORTER LEE BLEDSOE, who was born 19 May 1924 and, Death Master File says, died 29 April 2005.



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Greg, Did a quick search and located a Porter L. Bledsoe that may be the guy you seek.

Here is some info:

Name: Porter L Bledsoe

Service Info.: PO3 US NAVY WORLD WAR II, KOREA

Birth Date: 19 May 1924

Death Date: 29 Apr 2005

Cemetery: Dallas - Ft. Worth National Cemetery

Cemetery Address: 2000 Mountain Creek Pkwy Dallas, TX 75211

Buried At: Section 21 Site 1033

There is also a marker on Find-a-Grave

that has WWII and Korea listed on it.

1930 Census show:

Name: Porter Bledsoe

Birth Year: abt 1925

Gender: Male

Race: White

Birthplace: Texas

Marital Status: Single

Relation to Head of House: Son (Child)

Home in 1930: Dallas, Dallas, Texas

Map of Home: View Map

Street address: N. Marsalis

Ward of City: pt Voting Precinct 27

Block: 1967

House Number in Cities or Towns: 800

Dwelling Number: 580

Family Number: 695

Attended School: Yes

Able to Read and Write: Yes

Father's Birthplace: Tennessee

Mother's Birthplace: Texas

Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members:

Name Age

Mary Bledsoe 33

Dick Bledsoe 16

Porter Bledsoe 5

J Robert Dobbs 26

J Robert Dobbs 22



1940 Census:

Name: Porter Bledsoe

Age: 15

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1925

Gender: Male

Race: White

Birthplace: Texas

Marital Status: Single

Relation to Head of House: Son (Child)

Home in 1940: Dallas, Dallas, Texas

Map of Home in 1940: View Map

Street: N Marsalis

House Number: 631

Inferred Residence in 1935: Dallas, Dallas, Texas

Residence in 1935: Same Place

Resident on farm in 1935: No

Sheet Number: 6B

Attended School or College: Yes

Highest Grade Completed: High School, 1st year

Weeks Worked in 1939: 0

Income: 0

Income Other Sources: Yes

Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members:

Name Age

Mary E Bledsoe 43

Porter Bledsoe 15

M Jone Dallahan 28



There is also a Porter Lee Bledsoe shown as a Linz Award for Scholarship in the 1942 Yearbook for Adamson High School in Dallas.


An award for scholarship he would use to attend Georgetown.

But eventually get chopped up with an axe.


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Steve can you contact the Ripley Museum and ask if any of the furniture had been repaired?

Like a broken table leg.
I noticed the chair doesn't match the set, perhaps it was destroyed during an altercation at the Bledsoe address??

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James married (1) Mary Esther GERMANY on 7 Oct 1913. The marriage
ended in divorce.Mary was born in 1896 in Chatfield, TX.

They had the following children:

+ 42 M i. James Eulys "Dick" BLEDSOE Jr. was born on
28 Aug 1914. He died about 1980.
43 M ii. Porter BLEDSOE was born about 1925.

He is a child of another man, not James Eulys BLEDSOE.


James married (2) Neta Luceale THOMASON on 23 Sep 1933. Neta was
born on 23 May 1908 in Clovis, NM. She died on 5 Nov 1987 in El Paso, TX.

She was a slender blonde, 5'6" with gray blue eyes.


James and Neta had the following children:
44 F iii. Neta Joanna BLEDSOE was born on 31
May 1943 in Houston, TX. She died on 14 Feb 2004 in TX.

Went to Mills College, Oakland, CA, and Mexico City College. Lived
in San Francisco, CA
1969-1980. 1980-87 in El Paso taking care of parents, and now in
Santa Fe, NM.

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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Sat 03 Dec 2016, 2:22 am

Dick Bledsoe brother to Porter would be born in '14 add 17 years and he would graduate in '31-'32 Adamson High.
I could only find him in '29 as a freshman.




42. James Eulys "Dick" BLEDSOE Jr. (James Eulys, Marion
Fletcher, John Wiseman, Aaron, Jacob, Aaron, Abraham, George)
was born on 28 Aug 1914 in Ennis, TX.
He died about 1980 in Walnut Creek, CA.
James married Evelyn Violet BROWN .
Evelyn was born on 27 Nov 1909.
She died on 23 Jun 1998 in Walnut Creek, CA.

They had the following children:
55 M i. James Ronald "Ron" BLEDSOE was born on
28 Jun 1941 in New Orleans, LA.


A publisher/entrepreneur. (925) 820-7953, Danville, CA (2002)


James married (1) Joan Marie BENSON on 30 Dec 1962. The marriage
ended in divorce.Joan was born on 13 Dec 1945.
James married (2) Pam SMART .
56 M ii. Randolph John "Randy" BLEDSOE was born
on 8 Dec 1943 in New Orleans, LA.


He attended University of CA, Berkeley and studied law. He lives in
Sparks Nevada and is a
head librarian. E-mail: bledsoe@gbis.com (775) 331-1511 Sparks, NV (2002)


DICK (James Bledsoe)IS LINKED TO NEW ORLEANS, AND HIS SON RON or RANDY COULD HAVE BEEN IN LCAP AT THE TIME WHEN DAVID FERRIE WAS COMMANDER, WOW!

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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Sat 03 Dec 2016, 4:23 am

Evelyn Violet Brown got her social security number in CA between 1936-'50
She died in Walnut Creek Ca, and if the kids Ron And Randy went to school in California it would be a stretch to have them in LCAP.

An Randy Bledsoe I did find in Walnut Creek, class of 1960...


And here is Ron in Walnut Creek (Las Lomas) with Randy in 1959...



And Randolph (Randy) in the same yr book

It would be easier to connect the two CAP units with Ferrie and EB GERMANY,
In July 1942 Eugene Benjamin Germany he was appointed intelligence officer on the wing staff of the Civil Air Patrol and group commander of the Dallas CAP.
Germany was a Mason so he would know the cops whom were in the Masons like Paul Bentley and his 32nd Degree Masonic Ring which leaves a mark on Lee's face.

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Post by Steve Thomas on Sat 03 Dec 2016, 7:13 am

Ed. Ledoux wrote:Steve can you contact the Ripley Museum and ask if any of the furniture had been repaired?

Like a broken table leg.
I noticed the chair doesn't match the set, perhaps it was destroyed during an altercation at the Bledsoe address??
Ed,

I don't have any connection to the Ripley Museum, but if the chair had been damaged and replaced, and it came out of 621 N. Marsalis, it might (and I stress might, because the authenticity of the following General Offense Report has been disputed for years).
I'll try to insert it here, but if that doesn't work, it can be found here: http://dperry1943.com/images/bledsoet.gif

BTW, you've done some amazing work here Ed.

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Post by Steve Thomas on Sat 03 Dec 2016, 7:22 am

I had never heard of Treasure Island, so I looked it up. Turns out, the Naval Station, Treasure Island in San Francisco was a pretty intense place.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Station_Treasure_Island

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Post by Steve Thomas on Sat 03 Dec 2016, 8:15 am

Ed,

Just a quick thought...

In the news article you posted about Porter Bledsoe's murder, it says that James Moseley and Porter Bledsoe lived together in Oak Cliff about 20 years ago.

I wondered if the Lee in that General Offense Report could be James Mosley (or Lee)

Mrs. BLEDSOE - Well, it is all on one floor. And I have four bedrooms, but I rent three.
Mr. BALL - In September of 1963, you were living there alone, were you?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - No; my son was living there.
Mr. BALL - And he left?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - Uh-huh.
Mr. BALL - Did you rent rooms before your son left your home?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - Well, let's see, now, oh, yes; uh-huh, in September I----

Just a thought.

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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Sat 03 Dec 2016, 9:27 am

Why the kids are shown as being born in Louisiana in 1941 and '43 is still something to follow.

But as far as a LCAP connection it would not be by Ron or Randy I believe.

What is the connection to Louisiana in the early 40's?
War preparations?
CAP would be formed in '41.

EB Germany was Captain of the squadron in Dallas,,,
Oct 11 1942
' Pilots Urged to Offer Services ; To. hasten organization of Civil Air patrol activities In this area! civilian pilots are being urged to make speedy application for assignments. - . . . M. b. Bird, a local leader In the movement, reminded fliers of this vicinity. Saturday that applications must be filed before a group commander and other officers can be appointed. Private pilot 1 ! were told in a meeting here .Monday that there Is a Job waiting every flier. The statement was made by Capt. E. B. Germany of Dallas, executive officer in Wing 31 of the GAP. i It was suggested that those preparing applications go to the police station for finger printing. Each applicant also must submit three photographs of the standard size required by the Civil Aeronautics authority. Applications may be mailed either to Bird's office in Abilene or to Captain Germany, at The White Plaza hotel In Dallas. From (here they will be forwarded to Washington. , . While nearly 35 attended the meeting here Monday, Bird said he knew of no local applications yet on file. He said he understood 10 or 12 at Stamford 'had' applied for admittance, and said three or four at Brady were expected to follow' suit.



That man and motel in Dallas are EB Germany and White Plaza, IMO!


Well if recruits need to be fingerprinted and photographed they should have a file with state or local authorities.
Perhaps Germany filled the ranks with Porter's help?

EB was forming other youth corporations.

501. Corporation created

The following persons: Ernest R. Alexander, of Dallas, Texas; John R. Alford, of Henderson, Texas; William H. Book, of Indianapolis, Indiana; E. M. Dealey, of Dallas, Texas; A. Dale Fiers, of Indianapolis, Indiana; Fred F. Florence, of Dallas, Texas; E. B. Germany, of Dallas, Texas; Sam Gladney, of Dallas, Texas; Theodore B. Griffith, of Indianapolis, Indiana; O. H. Grissom, of Longview, Texas; Harry T. Ice, of Indianapolis, Indiana; J. C. Judge, of Mineola, Texas; George Kuhn, of Indianapolis, Indiana; Charles J. Lynn, of Indianapolis, Indiana; Eugene S. Pulliam, of Indianapolis, Indiana; C. B. Roberts, of Dallas, Texas; William L. Schloss, of Indianapolis, Indiana; Ben H. Wooten, of Dallas, Texas; and Joseph Zeppa, of Tyler, Texas; and their associates and successors are created a body corporate by the name of Board for Fundamental Education (hereinafter referred to as the “corporation”) and by such name shall be known and have perpetual succession and the powers and limitations contained in this chapter.
(July 19, 1954, ch. 536, §1, 68 Stat. 489.)


And EB was influential to finances including Law Enforcement, Welfare, Hospitals....

FINANCE STUDY GROUPS—
Making up the Finance Commission
subcommittees which will
work through the summer to
find answers to Texas' worrisome
money problems arc a group of
citizens with more than average
experience in public affairs and
finances.
The panels and their chairmen,
as named by Commission Chairman
John Redditt are:
SOURCES OF ADDITIONAL
REVENUE: Dr. George C. Hester
of Georgetown.
FINANCING LAW ENFORCEMENT,
WELFARE, HOSPITALS
AND THE INDUSTRIAL COMMISSION
:E. B. Germany of Dallas

—-
STATE'S FISCAL SYSTEM
AND DEFICIT PROBLEMS: Ben
H. Wooten of Dallas.
PUBLIC SCHOOLS: Thomas B.
Ramey of Tyler.
HIGHER EDUCATION: Dr.
Frank Connally of Waco.
HIGHWAYS: Herber




The CAP’s primary mission during the war years was to patrol the shoreline looking for enemy ships and submarines and to patrol the U.S.-Mexico border to prevent enemy agents or saboteurs from crossing into the United States.
However, local communities in the interior of the nation, such as Plainview, had their own CAP squadron.
“The D-1 squadron of the Civil Air Patrol, composed of fliers at Plainview, Lockney and Floydada, is above the average in flying personnel in the state, according to Captain E. B. Germany of the wing commanders staff of Texas,” said the Herald on Feb. 26, 1943.
Capt. Germany is going over records of the home squadron Wednesday night at a gathering of Plains personnel at Lubbock commended the tri-community organization highly.”

CAP records would be helpful:

Today Collin Hamer is an archivist and librarian at the New Orleans Public Library who still retains attendance records from his time in the CAP with Ferrie and Oswald, where he was one of Ferrie’s protégés.


"The entire reason for the existence of Ferrie’s New Orleans Squadron was national drill competitions. We attended three years in a row," said Shearer.

"The accent in the New Orleans unit was totally on professionalism. Almost all of Ferrie's cadets intended to go into the Air Force, and if you had your CAP "Certificate of Proficiency" when you entered, you automatically had a leg up, and began basic training with one stripe already." -Eddie Shearer

"Shearer several times met Dave Ferrie’s mother, who was visiting him, and she told Shearer that Dave's brother was a nuclear physicist. Intrigued, I tracked Ferrie's only living relative, his brother the nuclear physicist, who was living in California. He was unwilling to talk."


Parmely T. Ferrie
October 30, 1924 - December 31, 2012
Obituary

Parmely Thomas Ferrie, of Austin, Texas, the second of two children to James Howard Ferrie and Burdette Goldrick Ferrie, passed peacefully into Spirit on December 31, 2012. Born on October 30, 1924 in Cleveland, Ohio, he is survived by his six children (Pamela Estabrook, Christine Estabrook, James MacEgan, Eileen Ramsey, Thomas MacEgan and Catherine Schwanke), fifteen grandchildren and five great grandchildren.
An alumnus of Cathedral Latin High School in Cleveland, Ohio, Parm graduated in 1942, and earned the Bachelor of Science Degree in Chemical Engineering from Case Institute of Technology in 1951. He took his Masters' Degree in Business Administration from San Diego State University in 1976.
On his 18th birthday in 1942, Parm enlisted in the Army Air Corp. As a pilot, Lt. Ferrie flew the B-24 Liberator in the European Theater for the duration of WWII. He baled out during one mission and sent his parachute home to Cleveland to his fiancé, Rosemary Catherine Egan, who had it made into her wedding dress.
Parm and Rosemary were married on July 27, 1946 in Cleveland, Ohio, at St. Patrick's Catholic Church. Their union produced six children, fifteen grandchildren and five great grandchildren.
Parm was greatly admired in industry, working primarily in the field of nuclear energy. A highlight of his career was working for Babcock and Wilcox Company on the first nuclear-powered Submarines, and later with commercial power plants and co-generation power plants.
Parmely T. Ferrie – Gentleman, devoted husband, friend, and dad.
The Celebration of Life Service will be officiated by Rev. Steve Bolen at 5:00 p.m. on Saturday, January 12, 2013 at Unity Church of the Hills, 9905 Anderson Mill Rd., Austin, TX 78750, (512) 335-4449. Memorial Donations may be sent to St. Jude Children's Research Hospital, 501 St. Jude Place, Memphis, TN 38105, or Unity Church of the Hills.



...Not a thing about David in his brother Parm's obit... cold.
Yet I have lots of questions about when he came to live in Texas, what organizations he was involved in... security clearances for his nuclear work for B&W 
                                                                                              

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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Sat 03 Dec 2016, 9:43 am

Thanks Steve,

The damage to Chairs in the report would fit the missing chair, and bed could be checked by the museum.
I'm sure they would want any extra documentation they can get.
The report and a repair to the furniture/bed would be strong circumstantial evidence supporting the story (Oswald lived there)( Oswald had an altercation)

As for Mosley living at Mary Bledsoe's anything is possible, I do recall Mary died in '69 and lost the property to a lawyer soon after. 
Porter died in in '05 so the time frame may rule out 621 Marsalis.
Need to check when Bledsoe lost title to property.(again..)

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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Sat 03 Dec 2016, 11:00 am

Property at 621 N Marsalis winds up in Bill Knox's hands an attorney/ Bail Bond man whom was extraordinarily active.

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local-politics/2011/06/28/john-wiley-price-bought-land-from-county_s-most-active-bail-bond-lawyer-while-serving-on-oversight-board.ece

621 N Marsalis Avenue
    Dallas, TX
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Owner: WILLIAM M RAVKIND
Previous owners:

  • DAVID A LOPEZ & REBECCA LOPEZ
  • WILLIAM T KNOX
  • JOHN W PRICE


Lopez shows up 2001-2007 as owners and Rebecca was born in '63 so not likely

WM 2-1985 Mrs. Bledsoe phone at 621 N. Marsalis(Re: LHO 10/7-14/63).

Sources: Interview with Al Chapman, Dallas researcher
Mary's
Comments: Son of Mrs. Mary Bledsoe. Graduate of Georgetown Univ. Majored in Foreign Service. Night desk clerk at Town House Motel on Harry Hines, Dallas. DOB: 1924 (?) In 1995, Porter L. Bledsoe is listed as owner of a duplex at 4206 Wycliff. He lives there but there is no listed phone.

In the 1963 Dallas city directory Porter Bledsoe was listed as a Claims Adjuster for Aetna Casualty
and resided at 621 N Marsalis with his mother Mary.

I 1965 he was still at the same address but employed by National Claims Service.

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The idea I had and I see others too, was that Bledsoe was working insurance/bonds and somehow Porters dead mothers property wound up with Bill Knox a Lawyer/Bondsman.


Dealey Joe wrote:RUSSELL DOUGLAS MATHEWS
portions of testimony with HSCA APRIL 2, 1978
with his Las Vegas Attorney
HARRY E. CLAIBORNE,
108 South Third Street,
Las Vegas, Nevada
----------------------PORTER BLEDSOE BORN IN TX 1924? ILLEGITIMATE- - FATHERS NAME COULD HAVE BEEN MATHEWS?
Mathews,
born in Aspermont, Tx 7/26/1920 4 YEAR VARIATION IN BIRTH DATES
lived there until 7 ys old
the moved to Dallas until 1970
then moved to Las Vegas

now resides at
108 South Third Street,
Las Vegas, Nevada.
-------------------------- NOT KNOWN WHEN MARY AND PORTER CAME TO DALLAS

could not remember early jobs in Dallas

tol FBI in 12/1963 he knew J. Ruby for 12 yrs. (1951)
then told hsca "I didn't really know Ruby at all"
--------------------------- RUBY AND OSWALD WERE IN PORTERS MOM'S HOUSE IN '63

lived in Cuba in 1958 and 59
came back to Dallas in Jan. 59 during revolution
for a few weeks then went back to Cuba until Nov. 59.
then later said Nov. 1960 when JFK was elected

-------------------------- PORTER COULD CERTAINLY HAVE BEEN IN CUBA IN '59-59

R.D.owned two bars in Cuba
knew Lewis McWillie there who was acquaintance with Trafficante/Lanskey
------------------------- PORTER REPORTEDLY WORKED IN MOTEL AND HUNG OUT IN A BAR IN 2005
lived in Irving, TX in 1963?
------------------------ H.H. GRANT QUESTIONED BY GARRISON IN 66-67
Q. What were your thoughts when you heard that Jack Ruby had killed Lee Harvey Oswald, given the fact that Jack Ruby was a person you knew even though casually?
A. I just couldn't believe it actually. Probably just like anyone else, I couldn't believe that anyone would do what he did. It was unbelievable to me that someone would walk in a police station and do that. If that is the reaction you're looking for, I couldn't believe it.
---------------------------- " IF THAT IS THE REACTION YOU ARE LOOKING FOR?"
R.D. married to Elizabeth Ann (Flanagan) Matthews, Shreveport, LOUISIANA - WHO REPORTEDLY WAS AQUAINTED WITH RUBY.
divorced late 1950's PORTER HAD NO KNOWN CHILDREN -- HH GRANT STARTED TO TELL UPI HIS WIFE KNEW RUBY
-------------------------------PORTER WAS IN LOUSIANA IN THE MID FIFTY'S WITH DAVID FERRIE LCAP
returned to Dallas from Marine corps in Oct/Nov 1945
---------------------------- REPORTED TO HAVE ATTENDED THE GEORGETOWN SCHOOL OF FOREIGN SERVICE LATE 40'S
Q. How do you know Mr. Campisi?
A. I went to school with Campisi, Sam Campisi, when we were kids. I have known him all my life.
A. Yes, sir, he is Sam's brother. I know him well.
Q. Was your relationship with Joe Campisi the same as your relationship with Sam?
A. Joe was a little older, but yes, sir, I've known him for years.
------------------------
A. Yes, sir, I know Mr. Benny Binion. I work for him now.
Q. When did you first meet Mr. Binion?
A. It was out here, I guess. I don't remember what year. It was 20, 25 years ago, I guess, 20 or 25. I don't remember.
Q. When you say "out here," do you mean Las Vegas?
-----------------------------------------
Q. When was the last time you spoke to Mr. McWillie?
A. Well, he worked at the Horseshoe for a while. I believe that is the last time that I've seen him.
Q. What time period was that that he worked there?
A. Let's see, I guess he has been gone away from there over a year ago, I suppose. He was working there when--we were working the same place together. I saw him then. I don't recall seeing him any since then.
-----------------------------------
Q. Prior to your moving to Cuba what were you doing in Dallas, Texas?
A.I was in the bail bond business.
----------------------------------- PORTER WAS LISTED IN INSURANCE CLAIM/BOND BUSINESS
Q. Where were you when you heard that Jack Ruby assassinated Lee Harvey Oswald?
A. In my home at that address you have there; IRVING, Texas.
--------------------------------- PORTER OWNED A FEW DIFFERENT PROPERTIES ONE COULD HAVE BEEN IN IRVING
AND WAS LISTED AS LIVING WITH MARY IN OAK CLIFF
Harry Eugene Claiborne (July 5, 1917 – January 19, 2004) was a United States district court judge who was impeached for tax evasion. He was only the fifth person in U.S. history to be removed from office through impeachment by the U.S. Congress, and the first since Halsted Ritter in 1936.
Harry Eugene Claiborne was born in McRae, Arkansas and graduated from Cumberland School of Law at Cumberland University in 1941. He was admitted to both the Arkansas and Nevada bars, and spent two years as a deputy prosecutor before becoming a well-known defense attorney in Las Vegas.
Claiborne ran unsuccessfully for the U.S. Senate in 1964, losing in the Democratic primary. He was appointed to be a federal judge for the United States District Court for the District of Nevada by President Jimmy Carter in 1978, on the recommendation of his former opponent, Senator Howard Cannon.
Claiborne was indicted by a federal grand jury for bribery, fraud, and tax evasion in December 1983. In April 1984, however, the jury deadlocked and a mistrial was declared. He was tried again in July on only the evasion charges and was found guilty the next month, making him the first federal judge ever convicted of crimes while on the bench. Claiborne was sentenced to two years in prison in October, and was in prison from May 1986 to October 1987. Many lawyers and judges in the Nevada legal community regarded it as a case of selective prosecution. According to Nevada State District Judge Michael Cherry in 2004, "He was very, very fair to criminal defendants to his detriment. I think that is why the government was so interested in prosecuting him and knocking him off the bench."[1]
Harry E. Claiborne was impeached by the United States House of Representatives on July 22, 1986, on two charges of tax evasion and one charge of bringing disrepute to the federal judiciary. He was convicted by the U.S. Senate on October 9, 1986, removing him from office.
Claiborne was allowed to begin practicing law again in Nevada in 1987, in a decision by the Nevada Supreme Court that implicitly questioned the federal prosecution. His attorney was future Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman.
On January 19, 2004, he committed suicide in Las Vegas, Nevada, apparently due to his health battles with cancer and Alzheimer's disease.
A flamboyant attorney, Claiborne would frighten opposing counsel by carrying in large stacks of papers that he passed off as his evidence in the case. The papers in the folders often were blank. In the 1970s he represented famed entertainer Frank Sinatra in several of his legal battles with Vegas gaming officials.



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(75) Ibid ., FAA. vol . 4, Robey report, p. 9, attachment XX, the CAP Drill
Team once went to Dallas, according to Bob Boyleston
(HSCA Interview, Oct. 18 . 1978) . Ferrie made all the arrangements and appeared to have had contacts there. (Date of the alleged trip is unknown.) (J . F. K. Document 014904 .)

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Post by greg parker on Sat 03 Dec 2016, 1:20 pm

Steve Thomas wrote:
Ed. Ledoux wrote:Steve can you contact the Ripley Museum and ask if any of the furniture had been repaired?

Like a broken table leg.
I noticed the chair doesn't match the set, perhaps it was destroyed during an altercation at the Bledsoe address??
Ed,

I don't have any connection to the Ripley Museum, but if the chair had been damaged and replaced, and it came out of 621 N. Marsalis, it might (and I stress might, because the authenticity of the following General Offense Report has been disputed for years).
I'll try to insert it here, but if that doesn't work, it can be found here: http://dperry1943.com/images/bledsoet.gif

BTW, you've done some amazing work here Ed.

Steve Thomas

Just thinking out loud here - and starting with 2 premises.

1. The document is an obvious fake
2. Oswald never boarded with Bledsoe.

Given those premises, as well as the following, on what basis and when would such a document be useful?

According to this, the document has been floating around since (probably before) 1967 and first surfaced via either Buddy Walthers, Day or a booking officer named Currie. http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/bledsoe.txt

That also points out numerous issues with the document, not least being the spelling of Hidell with just one "l".

But it also indicates the form was of the type being used in October, 1963. 

THEORY


We know that the DPD was not averse to concocting it's own evidence.  I think sometime after Bledsoe surfaced (and after Ruby shot Oswald) and they needed a witness who knew Oswald so they could definitively place him on McWatters bus,  they manufactured this paperwork. More than that, they piled on by adding in the alleged aliases and trying to tie him to a communist/Jewish plot by also linking him to Ruby. 

That he is listed on the form as Rubenstein is the elephant in the room. He was charged with Oswald's murder under the name "Ruby". Whenever the name "Rubenstein" is used, it is most often an attempt to emphasize that he is Jewish - and so the logic goes - also a commie. 

If all of this is accurate, the attempt to tie Oswald to Ruby ended up one step too far. Conspiracy was off the table. It had to be deep-sixed, but was later circulated just to stir the pot up a bit when all sorts of conspiracies where being floated.

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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Sat 03 Dec 2016, 5:59 pm

Funny,  Parmely Thomas Ferrie is working on nuclear subs for B&W and David Ferrie is working on minisubs for FRD

Ferrie worked with Sergio Arcacha
Smith in counter-revolutionary
activities. Ferrie built two miniature
submarines which he planned to use in
an attack on Havana Harbor. (6) Ferrie
was questioned by the FBI on August
22, 1961 concerning the submarines
and he stated that he was "working
with, and assisting, the Cuban
Revolutionary Front


These Ferrie brothers must be tied at the hip!!
Flying, Texas, Subs, shoot Ferrie wanted to be a priest though...
well they can be exact.

Was the 19-20 year old described below "Patrick Layton Martens?"

On September 15, 1960, Arthur W.
Koon, Federal Aeronautics
Administration Tower, Moisant
Airport, told the FBI that "a former
secretary in his office, a Mrs. John F.
Barrett of Jefferson Parish, Louisiana,
had told him that her 14-year-old son
had been influenced to join an
organization called 'Omnipotent.' She
stated that he had been influenced by
a 19 or 20-year-old boy whose name
was unknown to her. Members of that
organization had to swear allegiance
and obedience to the 19 or 20-year-old
boy and that the purpose of this
organization was to train people
concerning what they should do in the
event of an all-out attack against the
United States. A 'Dr. Ferrie' was
behind this organization." (27)



MARTENS, FERRIE and Al- 1 t
vin R. Beauboeuf were ar- (
rested by Garrison two days
after the Nov. 22, 1963, assas-
sination.

They were questioned by the »
DA’s office and they made 3
statements to federal author- j
ities and then were released.

Beauboeuf has inherited the
estate of Ferrie,
Beauboeuf’s
attorney, Hugh B. Exnocios,

says that he intends “to show
that David Ferrie had no con-
nection with conspiring to as-
sassinate the President.”
Alvin R. Beauboeuf said this:

Q: ...Why didn't you accept the offer?
A. Because I wouldn't morally feel right knowing that I lied on the stand, plus taking the chance of being charged with perjury.
Q. But you did consider it at one point, did you not?
A. No, I didn't. I considered it to the point of telling the truth and giving a blank check on my mind to hypnosis, sodium Pentothal and lie detector test.


Who the heck was going to hypnotize him?
Sounds odd the first thing out his mouth is hypnosis, with the hypnosis talk by Ruby, the Magician/Hypnotist and others, all play into my thoughts on this. Sounds like Alvin was trained or aware of all these interrogation techniques. And had great confidence in his ability to pass each.



Playboy: All right. The May 15th issue of Newsweek charged that two of your investigators offered David Ferrie’s former roommate, Alvin Beauboeuf, $3000 and an airline job if he would help substantiate your charges against Clay Shaw. How do you answer this accusation?
Garrison: Mr. Beauboeuf was one of the two men who accompanied David Ferrie on a mysterious trip from New Orleans to Texas on the day of the assassination, so naturally we were interested in him from the very start of our investigation. At first he showed every willingness to cooperate with our office; but after Ferrie’s death, somebody gave him a free trip to Washington. From that moment on, a change came over Beauboeuf; he refused to cooperate with us any further and he made the charges against my investigators to which you refer.
Fortunately, Beauboeuf had signed an affidavit on April 12th — well after the alleged bribe offer was supposed to have been made — affirming that “no representative of the New Orleans Parish district attorney’s office has ever asked me to do anything but to tell the truth. Any inference or statement by anyone to the contrary has no basis in fact.” As soon as his attorney began broadcasting his charges, we asked the New Orleans police department to thoroughly investigate the matter.
And on June 12th, the police department — which is not, believe me, in the pocket of the district attorney’s office — released a report concluding that exhaustive investigation by the police intelligence branch had cleared my staff of any attempt to bribe or threaten Beauboeuf into giving untrue testimony. There was no mention of this report, predictably enough, in Newsweek.




Here is article showing Parm Ferrie was doing business for the church. Yep, after nuclear subs, he went to work for the diocese.

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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Sat 03 Dec 2016, 6:22 pm

greg parker wrote:
Steve Thomas wrote:
Ed. Ledoux wrote:Steve can you contact the Ripley Museum and ask if any of the furniture had been repaired?

Like a broken table leg.
I noticed the chair doesn't match the set, perhaps it was destroyed during an altercation at the Bledsoe address??
Ed,

I don't have any connection to the Ripley Museum, but if the chair had been damaged and replaced, and it came out of 621 N. Marsalis, it might (and I stress might, because the authenticity of the following General Offense Report has been disputed for years).
I'll try to insert it here, but if that doesn't work, it can be found here: http://dperry1943.com/images/bledsoet.gif

BTW, you've done some amazing work here Ed.

Steve Thomas

Just thinking out loud here - and starting with 2 premises.

1. The document is an obvious fake
2. Oswald never boarded with Bledsoe.

Given those premises, as well as the following, on what basis and when would such a document be useful?

According to this, the document has been floating around since (probably before) 1967 and first surfaced via either Buddy Walthers, Day or a booking officer named Currie. http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/bledsoe.txt

That also points out numerous issues with the document, not least being the spelling of Hidell with just one "l".

But it also indicates the form was of the type being used in October, 1963. 

THEORY


We know that the DPD was not averse to concocting it's own evidence.  I think sometime after Bledsoe surfaced (and after Ruby shot Oswald) and they needed a witness who knew Oswald so they could definitively place him on McWatters bus,  they manufactured this paperwork. More than that, they piled on by adding in the alleged aliases and trying to tie him to a communist/Jewish plot by also linking him to Ruby. 

That he is listed on the form as Rubenstein is the elephant in the room. He was charged with Oswald's murder under the name "Ruby". Whenever the name "Rubenstein" is used, it is most often an attempt to emphasize that he is Jewish - and so the logic goes - also a commie.
Like Curry calling him Jack "RUBENSTEIN"

And It is possible to have pulled an/the original, retyped it on a new form, deleting or adding what was needed.
Or as you say DPD made it.

Hargis and White would need to go along or blow the deal. Correct?

Here is another GOR (general offense report) 1963


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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Sat 03 Dec 2016, 7:38 pm

The other person of interest with strange affidavit is Coffey.
Melvin Stacey Coffey ( b.1940) lived in New Orleans. In 1953, he "started hanging around the CAP. Coffey left the squadron in September 1957, and joined the U.S. Army in November 1958, stationed in New Mexico.
Coffey was discharged from the Army in February 1962, and began visiting David Ferrie once a week. The frequency of the visits increased, and by May 1963, the two saw each other 2 or 3 times a week. By this time, Coffey was employed at the Chrysler Corporation's Michoud Plant.



Early in the Korean conflict the Chrysler Corporation received a contract to manufacture tank cylinder heads at the Michoud Ordnance Plant in New Orleans, Louisiana. The facility was converted for the construction of 12-cylinder engines for Sherman and Patton tanks. Among the division's renovation tasks was the complete dismantling and relocation of a foundry from Chicago to the plant. The division also designed, procured and installed several hundred tons of humidity-control equipment for the 47-acre structure. The pilot production line went into operation, but because of changing requirements, the plant never went into full production.


First Name:
Melvin
Middle Name:S.
Last Name:Coffey
Age at Time of Census:0
Gender:Male
Race:White
Ethnicity:American
Est. Birth Year:1940
Birth Location:Virginia Map
Enumeration District:111-26
Residence:Ward 3, Lynchburg, Lynchburg City, Lynchburg City, VA Map
Relationship to Head of Household:Son
Other People in Household:

  • Raymond Coffey
    30 yrs, Male


  • Mary Coffey
    26 yrs, Female


  • Albert Smith
    71 yrs, Male

And Yet there is David William Perrie.... oy vey

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