the stripling bullshit rears its ugly head again
Sun 11 Jun 2017, 10:26 pm
Sandy Larsen at the Ed Forum expecting that Tracy Parnell should prove a negative.
The witness who destroys Striping is the witness who started it - Robert when he testified...
Mr. OSWALD. Just a minute, please. In 1952 Lee was 13 years old. He would be attending W. C. Stripling Junior High School then.
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Let's deconstruct that. Robert is saying since Lee turned 13 in 1952, he would be attending stripling. But Lee did not turn 13 until Oct, 1952 and he was provably living in New York City at that time. In short, saying "he would be" attending Stripling is not the same as saying he did go to Stripling. Yes, Robert did go on to talk like it was a fact, but that would be because his initial assumption bizarrely went unchallenged.
Why bizarrely? According to the Harvey and Lee Brains Trust, the FBI was so fear stricken about Oswald going to Stripling, they swooped on the school that weekend and confiscated all of Oswald's records. The same FBI however was happy to allow Robert to testify about it. The Warren Commission, whom the same Brains Trust accuses of altering testimony, not only does not challenge Robert, it does not even bother cutting it from his testimony.
The other nails n the coffin are the undeclared relationship between Jack White and Frank Kudlaty and the fact that schools do not keep records. The records are kept by the local school boards. Even if skeleton records are maintained by schools, the main record sets are off site - as we see in every other school record obtained.
What about the other witnesses, I hear the Brains Trust scream? Well shit. The DPD, FBI and the WC can all suborn false statements, but Armstrong couldn't? Fuck off. Of course he could. Flattery, appeal to history, money, leading questions and careful grooming. That's all it takes when you haven't got the tools and threats at the disposal of the law.
SL wrote:I decided to read that Parnell article because Jim said it was short, and that it was "laughable." I figured I may not learn anything from it, but it might be funny. And it was short, so what the heck.
I found that the article doesn't have any argument at all! It just says that all the witnesses are wrong. With nothing to back it up.
Which did elicit a smile and quick chuckle from me.
The witness who destroys Striping is the witness who started it - Robert when he testified...
Mr. OSWALD. Just a minute, please. In 1952 Lee was 13 years old. He would be attending W. C. Stripling Junior High School then.
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Let's deconstruct that. Robert is saying since Lee turned 13 in 1952, he would be attending stripling. But Lee did not turn 13 until Oct, 1952 and he was provably living in New York City at that time. In short, saying "he would be" attending Stripling is not the same as saying he did go to Stripling. Yes, Robert did go on to talk like it was a fact, but that would be because his initial assumption bizarrely went unchallenged.
Why bizarrely? According to the Harvey and Lee Brains Trust, the FBI was so fear stricken about Oswald going to Stripling, they swooped on the school that weekend and confiscated all of Oswald's records. The same FBI however was happy to allow Robert to testify about it. The Warren Commission, whom the same Brains Trust accuses of altering testimony, not only does not challenge Robert, it does not even bother cutting it from his testimony.
The other nails n the coffin are the undeclared relationship between Jack White and Frank Kudlaty and the fact that schools do not keep records. The records are kept by the local school boards. Even if skeleton records are maintained by schools, the main record sets are off site - as we see in every other school record obtained.
What about the other witnesses, I hear the Brains Trust scream? Well shit. The DPD, FBI and the WC can all suborn false statements, but Armstrong couldn't? Fuck off. Of course he could. Flattery, appeal to history, money, leading questions and careful grooming. That's all it takes when you haven't got the tools and threats at the disposal of the law.
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Re: the stripling bullshit rears its ugly head again
Mon 26 Jun 2017, 1:36 pm
Sandy Larson wrote:BTW, Greg Parker claims that schools didn't keep school records... the school district did. And that that proves that Oswald's record at Stripling could not have been taken by the FBI.
Let me clarify for you. Schools of course, keep records while the student is enrolled and maybe for X amount of time afterwards.
But we are talking about more than 10 years after the fact. If schools pre-computerization, kept all records of every student they ever had, they would run into issues of space and other logistics. By then, records would be moved to a central storage space, or be destroyed as per whatever the schedule was at that time.
The records from NY schools were obtained through the Mayors office.
In New Orleans, it seems that skeleton records were kept for at least 2 or 3 decades by the schools. But Louisiana does things differently across a range of areas. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1141&relPageId=109
Here are some current practices of record keeping in Texas
I will post the google search result first as it clearly identies who keeps old records:
Records of Public School Districts - Texas State Library and Archives
https://www.tsl.texas.gov/slrm/recordspubs/sd.html[list="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border: 0px;"]
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Aug 14, 2011 - Introduction; Part 1: Student Academic Records; Part 2: Family .... Retention Note: ATexas Education Agency regulation (19 TAC 61.1041) requires ..... by the school until the person receiving the vaccine is 20 years old or 10 ...
Records of Public School DISCTRICTS
Student Academic Records -
ACADEMIC RECORDS (and how long they are kept)
ACADEMIC RECORDS | Cumulative record of achievement in grades Pre-K through 8. | Date of withdrawal + 5 years. |
ENROLLMENT OR REGISTRATION FORMS | Date of withdrawal + 5 years. | See retention note (b) on page 7. |
Not really. I have mentioned that all bureaucracies have issues with record keeping. Anyone who has ever had to phone a government department will know what I mean.DJ wrote:Greg's one lynchpin in his arguments is how impossible it is for US citizens or its military to keep records with any level of accuracy...
But it's certainly not the only - or the strongest argument against Stripling. Common sense has a lot to do with it. Knowing a little about how humans operate has something to do with it.
The above has something to do with it.
Really? Wouldn't that include say... requesting a receipt from, and taking down the names of the FBI agents, and asking about the return of, records you are (probably illegally) handing over to them? Is that the sort of careful record keeping and minutia you're speaking of?DJ wrote: The US is founded on the minutia of detail and record keeping...
Other things that are hard to swallow:
Kudlaty was so incurious, he only briefly glanced at the file. Me? I'd be going through it with a fine toothed comb. But hey, it's convenient for Kudlaty to be incurious about the suspect presidential assassin because now he doesn't have to make up even more tall stories (about what the file contained).
The principle was so incurious, he delegated the task of being a good citizen helping what would be assumed to be an honest investigation to his VP. Me? I'm there in a flash... any other plans for that morning are gone.
Bottom line: None of it happened. The Fort Worth School records were obtained via the Fort Worth Police... there are protocols and that seems to have been how it worked in that neck of the woods.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10386
No one ever said that. Head however, did confuse himself and the FBI over the meaning of "re-ad". He was right the first time..DJ wrote:yet school administrators don't know how many days in a school year? Please.
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Re: the stripling bullshit rears its ugly head again
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