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on Fri 19 Apr 2019, 3:29 pm
Ed. Ledoux wrote:That is our appeal to authority Mick.
Remember math doesn't require anyone special to use it. We are only verifying our results with a XYZ to placate the masses.
Our claim stands that the man pictured either can not be Lee or Lee was superimposed into an image.
Our proofs can be checked by Pythagoras himself.
But they are Self Evident.
And on this we stake our reputation and shows we are not barking up the wrong tree.
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PS, Mick its akin to a clearer pic of PM.
We don't need it... 'they' do.
Could not have put that any better Ed, spot on!
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on Fri 19 Apr 2019, 3:32 pm
Ed, remember this number.
Keep it close.
We are on the cusp.
All dogs have their day.

58.62 inches.
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on Fri 19 Apr 2019, 3:47 pm
And a fine 58.62 to you too Mick!
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on Fri 19 Apr 2019, 9:49 pm
What you may want to do is use the Dallas mugshot as a basis for measurement. Draw a line from two points (tip of lip to middle of eye) and then do the same in the yard photos and see what happens.

I know the yard photos are not him for a different reason. The only visual evidence they had of him was from six months before when I smiling Lee was handing out leaflets and then appearing in a TV news interview. It hardly showed a violent fanatic perception like they wanted to portray him.

So the yard photos were their "gotcha" visual evidence. And like someone above said, Oswald knew they were fake and said so.

Another thing I've always found interesting - what's a violent fanatic left winger doing wearing his military ring?  If he wanted to kill the president, you'd think that'd be the first thing he'd throw out the window months ago (you know, because he hates America and all it represents). But there he is with handcuffs and the USMC ring on.
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on Sat 20 Apr 2019, 2:50 am
JFK Case wrote:What you may want to do is use the Dallas mugshot as a basis for measurement. Draw a line from two points (tip of lip to middle of eye) and then do the same in the yard photos and see what happens.

Go for it.
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on Sat 20 Apr 2019, 9:00 am
JFK Case wrote:

I know the yard photos are not him for a different reason. 

Care to share?
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on Sun 21 Apr 2019, 11:06 pm
I used to think LHO's head in the BYP was a little too large when it was pasted over the stand-in's body. Here is a GIF I made (large file so may take a moment to load):

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Then I found that late 60's recreation of the BYP and lined up the noses of the recreation guy with LHO's. Surprisingly, the heads are more or less the same size (another large GIF below):

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on Mon 22 Apr 2019, 7:06 am
I'd say that sews on the buttons and stitches up the case! One might quibble with the lines if the difference wasn't so damn enormous, but hell, it proves it to my eyes (Groucho notwithstanding). Awesome stuff Stan. Why did all the other analyses avoid this fact? Looks like it's time to outlaw Powerpoint. Too dangerous when placed in the wrong hands.

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on Mon 22 Apr 2019, 7:20 am
Jake Sykes wrote:I'd say that sews on the buttons and stitches up the case! One might quibble with the lines if the difference wasn't so damn enormous, but hell, it proves it to my eyes (Groucho notwithstanding). Awesome stuff Stan. Why did all the other analyses avoid this fact? Looks like it's time to outlaw Powerpoint. Too dangerous when placed in the wrong hands.

Really my only complaint is that in my backyard shadows analysis I spent probably forty hours all told researching, building the model, and constructing the presentation. Now you've gone and presented what is probably a more easily understood and therefore more convincing case than mine and you did it with two lines in Powerpoint and a couple hours of video production! 

I feel like that Armstrong character who works for years to come up with his dumb H and L theories and up pops Barto who works hard, but also about three hundred times smarter.

Anyway, nice analysis. Dino Brugioni would be proud.

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on Mon 22 Apr 2019, 7:38 am
What do we do, dismiss that which precludes authenticity...?

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on Mon 22 Apr 2019, 7:41 am
Terry Martin and the power lines.... ouch.
Dismiss those shadows at ones own ignorance

https://youtu.be/V0Si0y4abfg

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on Mon 22 Apr 2019, 2:19 pm
JFK Case wrote:I used to think LHO's head in the BYP was a little too large when it was pasted over the stand-in's body. Here is a GIF I made (large file so may take a moment to load):

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Then I found that late 60's recreation of the BYP and lined up the noses of the recreation guy with LHO's. Surprisingly, the heads are more or less the same size (another large GIF below):

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Interesting exercise, JFK Case. Not entirely sure of the benefit of the analysis though. I would imagine we can't take human subjects from one photo and implant them in another for any sort of serious study. This is not a criticism just an observation.
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on Tue 23 Apr 2019, 2:14 pm
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"That picture is not mine, but the face is mine. The picture has been made by superimposing my face. The other part of the picture is not me at all, and I have never seen this picture before.

"I understand photography real well, and that, in time, I will be able to show you that is not my picture and that it has been made by someone else."
 
Lee Harvey Oswald, November 23, 1963
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on Tue 23 Apr 2019, 3:04 pm
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on Wed 24 Apr 2019, 11:57 am
From the files of the DPD.

214 W. Neely Street, November 29 1963

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on Wed 24 Apr 2019, 12:00 pm
Scans ... even the bad ones.
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on Wed 24 Apr 2019, 1:45 pm
A gif I stole and want to focus on eye and ear shadows.
Check out Lee's right ear shadow...

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on Wed 24 Apr 2019, 1:59 pm
So much photo alteration junk swirling about. Why the fuck would anyone want t alter the shadow of a limousine tire? But the BYP are another case entirety.. they just look so PAINEfully bogus.
I remember reading the "Neely St Questions" thread on the Ed forum..raised some interesting issues. Didn't Trejo try t hijack it with some of his Warren Commission lite bullshit? I bet his walls are just plastered with photos of the Quaker Charity Lady. I shudder t think what he used t do the plasterin'...
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on Wed 24 Apr 2019, 3:52 pm
Ahh Pugsley and Mrs. Paine.
Pugsley has a gif of Ruth that makes him pop like Old Faithful at Yellowstone.
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on Thu 25 Apr 2019, 9:27 pm
I remember your exemplary research on the " Neely St" thread Ed..the kind of detective work Inspector Doyle would be proud of.
Between you and Greg you pretty much convinced me Oswald never stayed there. Which makes the BYP photos even MORE compelling.
Someone, i think maybe you Jake or Steely summed Trejo up perfectly. " Wilful ignorance" He can't possibly be as stupid and obtuse as he makes himself out t be. I bet he's got himself a Doylesque basement stuffed with fully flexible rubber mannequins of the Quaker Charity Lady. And General Walker too. He seeme utterly obsessed with him. Reading his posts was like reading a fan letter a 13 year old from Kansas might have sent Ringo after Ed Sullivan. " Oh Ted, i can call you Ted the manly way you handled that big shiny co...colt of yours and the way the stars gleam from your shoulders made me come over all peculiar..Oh Teddy, i can call you Teddy can't I? you remind me of a Hillbilly Hercules..Could you sign the photos i sent you..i hope you like the lingerie I'm wearing..i picked it out just for you..Teddy. Signed Paul Trejo(MA)
Since he departed the Ed forum he's set up his own website CIadidnotkillJFK.com with that pissant sidekick of his Jason Ward.
The same old debunked garbage regurgitated ad nauseam. I wonder what the illustrious Master Drago would make of it all..
When he dies they should stuff him and put him in the Smithsonian. The perfect specimen of the mindless zealot. He's painted the stars on his ceiling and called it the sky. And through the cracks he can see his God smile down upon him.
By the way Ed i never got the chance t compliment you on your work on Prayerman. The confirmation from Marina was the piece de resistance. Along with Bart, Greg, Stan , the other ROKCers and of course Sean have done the heavy lifting and deserve all the kudos.
( tip hat here)
Its that kind of stuff that really sets ROKC apart.

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on Fri 26 Apr 2019, 5:09 am
Much obliged Alex. Many mahalos.

 ".. fan letter a 13 year old from Kansas."
Hosty's kid after his father's transfer?

"they should stuff him and put him in the Smithsonian."
The Dian Fossey Silverback Museum was also on their short list.

"that kind of stuff that really sets ROKC apart"
That's why were here, isnt it.
Keep on Rokcin!

Cheers
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on Fri 26 Apr 2019, 8:08 am
Ed. Ledoux wrote:From the files of the DPD.

214 W. Neely Street, November 29 1963

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Makes me laugh Ed, CE133c not discovered til when? 1967. Yet there is the DPD assuming said position in November '63
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