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Two Capitalist/Imperalist Parties

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Two Capitalist/Imperalist Parties

Post by Arlene Raquel Kapel on Sat 20 Oct 2012, 6:12 pm

That's what we have in the USA, and the poor suffer. The GOP is a totally fascist/pro death party IMHO. Alas, the Democrat aren't much better. Sad


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Post by greg parker on Sat 20 Oct 2012, 6:18 pm

Arlene Raquel Kapel wrote:That's what we have in the USA, and the poor suffer. The GOP is a totally fascist/pro death party INHO. Alas, the Democrat aren't much better. Sad

I'm hearing ya... things are much the same here... tweedle dum or tweedle dee...

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Post by Arlene Raquel Kapel on Thu 16 May 2013, 5:47 am

Many years ago the late TV talker Tom Synder said, "The lesser of two evils is still evil."

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Post by greg parker on Thu 16 May 2013, 6:48 am

It's a con job. In all other areas of life, they want competition and diversity. With politics, they want to limit you to a choice of two which isn't a choice at all when the only differences are at the margins.

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Post by Guest on Fri 31 May 2013, 12:42 pm

Party differences at the local level "can" still make a difference, at least in the smaller locals.

National politics are a bit different. At the Presidential level in particular, winning at all cost takes precedence because if you don't win or at least have the potential to win, there is no point.

With the dramatic expansion of the powers of the executive Branch, control of the White House is a big enough deal, that if you are in any way a threat to those who control power behind the thrown, you are not only not allowed to win, you don't even make it to the finals.

Anybody that has an inclination to really change things never gets close to the seat of power, because the folks in power like things the way they are.

Every once in a while, when things get really hard to swallow, we get "Change."
What this really amounts to is we get someone who talks about change, but in the end we get- " new boss, same as the old boss."

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Post by greg parker on Fri 31 May 2013, 1:13 pm

Every once in a while, when things get really hard to swallow, we get "Change."
What this really amounts to is we get someone who talks about change, but in the end we get- " new boss, same as the old boss."

But we keep hoping... "maybe this time..."

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Post by Goban Saor on Thu 07 Nov 2013, 9:33 am

The political parties and personalities in government may change but the ideology never changes.

The ideology I refer to is the ideology of inequality, economic inequality in particular.

The fundamental principle of democracy is equality. So why haven’t we got economic equality?

And why is anyone who even asks that question branded a communist or socialist?

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Post by Stan Dane on Sun 17 Nov 2013, 3:40 am

In this cartoon, Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog show how the two major political parties work:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kerUbfOQTW0
 

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Re: Two Capitalist/Imperalist Parties

Post by Guest on Fri 07 Mar 2014, 9:30 am

Arlene Raquel Kapel wrote:That's what we have in the USA, and the poor suffer. The GOP is a totally fascist/pro death party IMHO. Alas, the Democrat aren't much better. Sad

But for some reason, we keep voting for these clowns. I haven't figured it out yet. It's like, why don't we just stop voting for these idiots? I agree with you, the Reps and Dems are two birds of a feather. The thing to understand is, there's something going on behind the scenes. The real power in this country lies elsewhere.

I'll give you an example: there was a piece of legislation euphemistically called "Audit-the-Fed". After its introduction in the House, it garnered 320+ co-sponsors (that's people willing to put their name behind the bill before it's even passed). That is unheard of in US politics, that never happens, except in war resolutions and stuff like that. That's a Constitutional super-majority, that's enough to pass a Constitutional Amendment.

So, upon passing the House, it lasted exactly one hour in the Senate. And it was killed mainly by one Senator, Chris Dodd. What specifically happened is, he watered down the bill and de-fanged it, and then incorporated it into the Senate's version of the "financial reform legislation", and then claimed that he had actually used and incorporated the Audit-the-Fed legislation, when in fact he did no such thing. We still to this day have no audit of the Fed's overseas transactions.

See, so, the bankers can control one Senator (through money, or any other way) - and then they have their collective hands on the spigot - which in most cases, based on the way corporate interests work, means individuals end up with their hands on the spigot.

And that, is in direct contravention to the vital concept of "checks and balances" that's needed to make our system work.

If the checks and balances break down, our system no longer works.

At least, not the way it was intended.

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