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Thu 30 Dec 2010, 10:17 am
I have always been fasinated with Patrice Lumumba. He was an amazing man.

One thing I did hear was a rumor,(well read somewhere) that a CIA agent told someone that he was driving round for days with the body of Lumumba in the trunk of his car, trying to figure out what to do with it.

Is there any truth to this?
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Thu 30 Dec 2010, 3:41 pm
Well that, and I wanted to start a topic about Lumumba...
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Fri 31 Dec 2010, 11:14 am
Lisa Pease did a definitive account of Lumumba's assassination for Probe magazine some years back, "Midnight in the Congo", and that's still on-line at http://www.ctka.net/pr399-congo.html

Lumumba was evidently lured away from the protection of UN guards by the mysterious "QJ/WIN" - a narcotics-smuggling CIA asset from Europe whom Richard Helms described to the Church Committee : "If you needed somebody to carry out murder, I guess you had a man who might be prepared to carry it out." QJ/WIN convinced Lumumba to "escape".

The Prime Minister of the Belgian Congo was tied to a tree and tortured and finally shot dead. CIA Africa specialist John Stockwell told of an associate confiding that he'd been "driving about town with Patrice Lumumba's body in the trunk of his car, trying to decide what to do with it."

The decision apparently was to dissolve the body in an acid bath.

There's a 5-part youtube documentary made by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation; I loaded it onto a compact disc about a year ago and haven't watched it since but remember it as excellent. Lumumba seemed like a real man of the people, from humble beginnings, worked for the post office, and wouldn't sell out the well-being of his nation to colonial Belgium or the USA, which coveted the precious metals vital to the aerospace industry that the Congo had gobs of: cobalt, tantalum, uranium, diamonds, gold, copper, zinc, manganese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J49u2DWKuX0

Lumumba was the first known victim of the CIA's Executive Action program, and was murdered 3 days before JFK's inauguration.
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Fri 31 Dec 2010, 1:28 pm
Thank you so much for all of that info Very Happy

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Sat 20 Oct 2012, 6:21 pm
Noam Chomsky, a leading American lefist, a long nutter btw, blames JFK for Lumunba's sleying even tought it occured before JFK was sworn in as President. Chomsky also says that JFK was a firmer believer in the Cold War and thereby a back of the establishment, so he asks, " Why would the establishment kill one of their own "?. Chomasky must belive the average US citizen is very dumb.

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Sun 21 Oct 2012, 10:56 am
Arlene Raquel Kapel wrote:Noam Chomsky, a leading American lefist, a long nutter btw, blames JFK for Lumunba's sleying even tought it occured before JFK was sworn in as President. Chomsky also says that JFK was a firmer believer in the Cold War and thereby a back of the establishment, so he asks, " Why would the establishment kill one of their own "?. Chomasky must belive the average US citizen is very dumb.

Chomsky has just published another hit piece on JFK over his handling of the Cuban Missile Crisis.

A couple of days ago, I left this comment on his FB page regarding it:

Chomsky's reliance on Raymond Garthorf on this is kind of like relying on the old East Germany to evaluate their Olympic swimming team, and just as disturbing a proposition. Garforth is a fellow at the faux left Brooking Institute. "Former" CIA employees jumping to Brookings include Bruce Reidel abd Kenneth Pollack, with others having close association with high CIA officials.

I am also concerned about some of the quotes Chomsky attributes to JFK as I have not been able to verify them from any other source. All in all this is just another dog's breakfast dressed up and served as a rare delicacy from a Master Chef who specializes in Dead Kennedy ala Mode.

When it comes to JFK, "Chomsky" is just a fancy way of spelling "O'Reilly".

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Mon 29 Oct 2012, 7:30 pm
Chomsky has become a millionaire by parading as a leftwinger, IMO he is a a false leftist, who is actually an intelligence operator, I have no proof, just my opinion and whatever he is he is surely very igorant about JFK. But I hve to admit that much of his non JFK material is top grade...the United States as an imperialist nation.

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Wed 13 Feb 2013, 7:32 pm
Excerpts from John Stockwell's book...

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Stockwell/In_Search_Enemies.html
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Mon 18 Feb 2013, 5:11 am
This is a fabulous resource, Frankie. Thanks for posting it. I'm sure I'll be looking at thirdworldtraveller a lot in the near future.

I noticed a photo of Norman Solomon on its homepage. He wrote & hosted a great documentary, "War Made Easy", that I saw last fall. It was narrated by Sean Penn, one actor I've begun to respect the last few years. The story stretches from the Gulf of Tonkin hoax attack to the weapons of mass destruction propaganda used to justify the war on Iraq. The problem becomes, once the war machine gets going, and with the mass media's help, it seems to take a solid 10 years to derail the machine's momentum. Despite the phony basis for the war to begin with. A pretty sad reality.

I wish there had been more whistleblowers like John Stockwell. Who had a strong enough conscience not to be intimidated by the CIA's 30-year secrecy oath. Since it was made under false pretenses- recruits who had no idea they'd be involved in drug smuggling & experimentation on unwitting subjects, torture, murder, and the list goes on.

He makes the observation that case officers in the field usually ingratiate themselves with the economic elite of the foreign country they're in, and grew resentful of those who protested against the status quo. This seems to be a carryover of the old boy Ivy League blueblood network that ruled the OSS and early CIA, and I bet it's still true today. In the management hierarchy you essentially get rich kid super-patriots, above the law, who don't have to answer to anyone (but Rockefeller, Rothschild, QE2, etc.). Which becomes a case of absolute power corrupting absolutely. And there are no honest & able journalists anymore to expose this, except on the internet. Otherwise the bluebloods get a free pass.

As Stockwell ruefully observes, "Because of the CIA, the world is a more dangerous place."

"Allen Dulles, Richard Helms, Carmel Offie and Frank Wisner were the grand masters. If you were in a room with them you were in a room full of people that you had to believe would deservedly end up in Hell. I guess I will see them there soon."
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