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The Oxnard Riddle Explained

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Post by greg parker on Fri 30 Oct 2009, 9:00 am

Parker Sullivan
Sullivan was President of the General Telephone Company in Santa Monica, California. On the morning of November 22, 1963, two of his experienced operators would overhear the forecasting of the death of JFK at 10:30AM (12:30PM in Dallas).

Sullivan, upon learning of this, contacted the FBI at 11:35AM.[1]

Mrs Doris M Bliss and Mrs Jean M Shores

Special Agent John E Keane was dispatched to obtain statements from the two operators. SA Keane was advised that Mrs Bliss, operating a toll call board, could hear a "fuzzy" sound indicating someone had a receiver off the hook, but that she had got no response when identifying herself as an operator. Then, upon hearing someone whispering, the women related how Mrs Bliss had called Mrs Shores to listen in as it seemed the person may be in trouble. It was now around 10:07 AM local time.[2]

Who was the Caller?
The caller has never been, and is unlikely to ever be, identified. The General Telephone Company at the time said the call could not be traced. All that is known is that the call originated in the Oxnard-Camarillo region and was made by a female who sounded middle-aged.[3]

How Did the Caller Sound?
Despite what some have written over the years, the caller was not at any stage hysterical. The caller was described as whispering in a rapid manner which indicated to the operators that she was reciting something that was written. When Mrs Bliss interrupted to ask if she could be of assistance, the woman replied in a clear and normal voice before returning to her "recital" in what was now described as a "definite, rhythmic fast tempo".[4]

What Did the Caller Say?
After Mrs Shores joined Mrs Bliss on listening in, the caller dialled a few numbers and said faintly, "The President is going to die at 10:10". At hearing this, both operators looked up at the clock. The time was between 10:07 and 10:08. The caller, continuing in the same rapid whisper, next said, "the Justice, the Supreme Court, there's going to be fire in all the windows, the Government is going up in flames." The two operators thought that the woman then placed the receiver on a table and there was no background noise as she proceeded to dial between 12 and 15 digits. It was at this point that Mrs Bliss interrupted. The quite normal, clear and matter-of-fact reply to this offer of help had been, "No. I'm using the phone." The interruption thus cut short, the caller continued as previously described, this time naming at least 12 courts in order of importance from the Supreme Court on down before stating that "The President is going to die at 10:30." But that was not yet the end of it. The caller followed those statements up with yet another recital of the courts and the words, "The Government takes over everything lock, stock and barrel.” That was the last thing Mrs Shores could make out. However Mrs Bliss caught the words "thermostat", "rheostat" and "heostat" before the whispers became inaudible to her as well, and she released the line. The call had lasted an estimated 10 to 15 minutes.[5]

Other Facts
Another piece of misinformation which circulates about this incident is that the predicted death of JFK had been made to a party on the other end of the line. The facts are however, that both operators stated to the FBI that at no time was there ever any other party on the line and in their opinion, no connection to another party had actually even been made.[6]

Mental State

Mrs Bliss and Mrs Shores thought that the caller must have been mentally disturbed. This is possibly what has led to the factoid that the woman was "hysterical". At this point it would be useful to revisit what the two operators actually reported her as doing and saying. To paraphrase,

•the caller spoke in a low, rhythmic rapid whisper as if reciting from notes

•she dialled a series of digits immediately prior to both times in which
she made the assassination prediction

•she was speaking for the most part, with hands free due to placing receiver on a table or some other surface

•she was not talking to any other party

•when interrupted with an offer of assistance, she replied in a normal, clear voice, before immediately resuming her "recital"

•she repeated the names of all the courts a number of times

•she used the imagery of buildings on fire

•she ended this odd behavior with the names of controls for heat and energy

The above facts brought to mind some of the practices of Wiccans, Rosicrucian and other fringe groups and cults, and so it was along such lines that further inquiry took me.

Radionics
Radionics originated in San Fransisco through the experiments conducted by Albert Abrams during the early 20th century. Originally meant as a means of remote diagnosis,[7] it can allegedly be used to remotely affect any "target" in any way desirable. A radionics device has three (external) working parts: a power source (your mind); an intention (what you want to affect) and; a "target" (place/person/object the energy is directed toward).[8] Rosicrucians (AMORC) are among a number of groups who practice and teach radionics.[9] One other believer was an inventor named Arthur Young. Young was also the step-father of Michael Paine, and had arranged for Michael to work as an engineer at Bell Helicopter.[10] Young, who had conducted radionics experiments with Frances Farrelly, took things to another level by declaring that "it was the mind of the operator that made the device function, and that it was the symbolic form of the device that dynamically functioned to make it work." This appeared particularly significant since others had discovered they could make the device work even though disconnected from its power supply. Thus, anything in fact that might substitute for the device could substitute, including a drawing of one. And so it was with the target. Where once it was thought you needed a sample of say, blood or hair from the target, now a photo or a signature would suffice.

The Ends and the Means
This was the heading used in an article published by Rosicrucian Forums magazine during 1963. The article stated that concentration was the most important tool available to the Rosicrucian and goes on to describe it as the "directing of mental processes toward a certain end. We are focusing those processes and powers upon a certain object in order to bring about a situation which we believe is to our advantage and will be to our satisfaction."

Was the Caller Using Radionics?
I believe she was using radionics or a similar means of remotely affecting the assassination. I have no opinion on whether it works. At this point, that is less important than the fact that the woman believed it worked, and that she had prior knowledge of what was about to happen in Dallas. This leads to a further question: was she trying to ensure the success of the assassination, or trying to prevent it? I believe that the totality of her invocations suggests she was trying to ensure success.

Expert Opinion
As research leads into areas of little personal knowledge, it is often wise to seek expert opinion as a guide to whether you are "on the right track". This is one of those areas, and as such I contacted Ellis Peterson, a retired maths professor and electrical engineer who writes on such esoteric practices as radionics under the pen-name, Ragnar Storyteller. I wrote to Ellis giving an outline of what I was looking into (but careful not to include anything about the assassination prediction lest it color his reply) and asking his opinion on what was happening. His reply in part was that “she was performing some kind of mental radionics magic; the phone numbers were her way of making the connection. Fire and windows were probably part of her personal incantations."

Oxnard-Camarillo Circa '63
The Oxnard-Camarillo region during the Cold War could not look more like an Oliver Stone meets M. Night Shyamalan movie set if it tried.

The area was home to:
•A Rosicrucian (AMORC) "Pronaos" (in theosophy the term "from the crypt to the pronaos" indicates the start and the end of the process by which thought can be materialized). Here then, the name itself proclaims it as the place where all your wishes can literally be made come true. The address to go? 346 North H St.[11]
•The Port Hueneme Naval Surface Weapons Center The Oxnard Air Force Base - cited as the source of UFO sightings in the area during the 1950s and '60s
•The Camarillo State Mental Hospital

RFK - An Afterword
There was a second prediction, probably very much lamented, made by Harold Weisberg. Weisberg said that RFK would be killed if he ever started checking into JFK's death. It seems that Bobby paid a visit to Oxnard to look into this mysterious call.[12] He was shot and killed the next day, allegedly by a "lone nut" - and a member of the Rosicrucians (AMORC).


ENDNOTES
[1] Commission Document 1107 - FBI Gemberling Report of 15 May 1964, pp82-3
[2] Ibid
[3] Ibid
[4] Ibid
[5] Ibid
[6] Ibid
[7] Wikipedia entry for Radionics [8] Email to author from Ellis Peterson, July 11, 2008
[9] Rosicrucian (AMORC) Digest, 1943
[10] Arthur M Young Essay, Science, Spirit & The Soul, 1985
[11] Rosicrucian (AMORC) Digest, 1957 (with street address) - still listed in Oxnard in following years, but without street address
[12] For details of RFK's efforts in Oxnard to find out about the call, see Peter Noyes, Legacy of Doubt, pp23


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Oxnard phone call

Post by Guest on Sat 28 Nov 2009, 2:30 pm

The Washington Post of November 23, 1963, carried a short column about the Oxnard call on page A6:

MYSTERY CALL FORETOLD FATE OF PRESIDENT
The Los Angeles Times

What could be an intriguing mystery in the President's assassination might center in the Oxnard-Camarillo area, near Los Angeles.
Fiftenn minutes before Mr. Kennedy was shot, an Oxnard telephone supervisor overheard a woman caller whisper to someone:
"The President is going to be killed."

The strange call was intercepted by supervisors of the General Telephone Co. in Oxnard at 1:10 EST. The fatal wounding of Mr. Kennedy in Dallas occurred shortly after 1:25 EST.
Telephone company executives said it is impossible to trace the mysterious call other than to know it originated in the nearby Oxnard-Camarillo area.
The state mental institution is located at Camarillo.
Ray Sheehan, general manager of the company there, said:
"One of our supervisors picked up the call. The caller kept dialing even though her call was connected. Then she started whispering. Another supervisor listened in and was able to hear the woman saying, 'The President is going to be killed'."
Sheehan said the mysterious call was reported to police- but after the President had been shot.


This Asociated Press dispatch also mad eit into the Nov. 23rd Toronto Star-Telegram, which included that Ray Sheehan had said the caller "stumbled into our operator's circuits," perhaps by misdialing.

The Nov. 26th FBI teletype relevant to this incident describes a teenage girl, Judy Rockwell, hearing about this call on the night of the 22nd on local radio.

That tells me this Oxnard call is no disinfo gig, i.e. "Mental Ward Psychic Predicts Assassination" I'm a smartass &

Ventura County detective Gary Wean claimed that J. Edgar Hoover squelched the investigation of this call; Warren Commissioner Hale Boggs made a revealing slip of the tongue, when referring to INCA's Ed Butler and Dr. Alton Ochsner, during the executive sesion of Jan. 22, 1964:
"This fellow Butler, who works for the profit organization that Dr. Oxnard heads to disseminate and tie Communist propaganda to Latin America..."

Researcher Lee Forman found (Education Forum, 'Simulated Assassination' Gone Awry, 1/11/05) that stripper Kay Coleman (who lived a few blocks north of Ruby) and her boyfriend, the DPD's Harry Olsen (who was guarding an 8th St. "estate" in Oak Cliff, 2 blocks from the Tippit murder, while recovering from a "broken kneecap"- and Coleman testified she visited Olsen "right after the President was shot") moved in 1964 to 242 West 2nd St. in Oxnard.

I understand that researcher Ian Griggs in 2005 tried to speak with this couple, but they are incommunicado- Griggs received anonymous calls warning him away from this couple.

Also. from Gary Wean, "Only a matter of hours after Det. Sgt. Ed Patton and I gave RFK documents in Oxnard, California, RFK was dead. They revealed a phone call had been made from Federal Commissioner Ben Nordman's and Superior Court Judge Jerome Berenson's law office over 20 minutes before jFK was assassinated that 'he was going to be killed.' RFK was also given the names of the persons making the phone call."

The law firm Nordman, Berenson & Lewis was the most poitically powerful in California, and the oxnard (Ventura County) area was characterized by Wean as run by "gangster judges". Their 1959 address was 309 South A St. in Oxnard.

Berenson, Nordman and lawyer Carl E. Ward, Jr. controlled an Asian drug-smuggling ring coming in through Port Hueneme, just south of Oxnard (A Report to the People, Part 2, Gary Wean, on-line)

Berenson was appointed to the Superior Court in late 1962 by Governor Pat Brown.

Also from Wean- online at "Phoenix Journal 183"- lawyer Carl E. Ward was involved in the JFK assassination- Ward- Ronald Reagan's Presidential campaign's Chief Financial Officer!- was arrested in Portland, Oregon, for gamblng operations run through a phony church set-up, The Church of the Conceptual Truth. He was laundering money through the Bank of A. Levy in Oxnard, owned by US COmmissioner Ben Nordman and Judge Jerome Berenson.

I dunno the year here, probably the 80's.

Ward was the mayor of Oxnard from 1956-60. There'a a portrait of him on-line at the Oxnard Library site, http://content.adlib.org/ark:/13030/kt509nb2sj/?brand=oac
I would imagine that he joined the nordman law firm shortly after serving as mayor. A California-based researcher might be able to find more on this guy at the Oxnard Library or Ventura County newspapers.

I highly suspect that the mysterious Oxnard phone call originated because of a conversation overheard the morning of November 22nd in Carl Ward's office. The call was placed at 10:07 AM Pacific time, shortly after the office opened (at 9?). Perhaps a legal secretary (or cleaning woman?) overheard this conversation and made the call. It seems that she was intimately familiar with the legal/court hierarchical structure and was reading off ten or so court names from a list she'd just written out off the top of her head. The 12 to 15 digits she dialed during her 10-15 minute call might be attributable to her making consecutive local 7-digit calls.

I have no adequate explanation for her semi-psychotic comments, "There's going to be a fire in all the windows, the Government is going up in flames... thermostat, rheostat, heostat" (temperature-rising imagery) cat

It is interesting that Madame Blavatsky's Theosophical Society- which spawned a revival of Rosacrucianism- purchased an estate in the early 1900's in the nearby foothills. And that the general area became a landing zone for other spaceshots and white-collar criminals. Perhaps the woman caller had a cultic-style personal belief system, and reacted to the conversation she'd overheard with this semi-psychotic imagery.

I do believe her call is related to Carl E. Ward, Jr., although I have no idea how Gary Wean learned he was connected to JFK's assassination.
Ward strikes me as in league with the "Chinatown"-"L.A. Confidential" corrupt bureaucratic elite.
Vultures to the last! What the?

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Post by greg parker on Sat 28 Nov 2009, 10:58 pm

Richard,

a few thoughts:

1)The newspaper accounts of the Oxnard call carried interpretations of the event via Sheehan and/or the reporter. This is what has led people down various blind alleys with it.

Example: The Los Angeles Times has her whispering to "SOMEONE"

To understand the true nature of it, you need to look at the raw info collected by the FBI - which I know you have done.
The Oxnard Call

2) Some of Gary Wean's story makes little sense to me. The call was reported immediately to the FBI; an agent was sent immediately, and was advised the call could not be traced. How could Hoover have acted that quickly? And how were the employees kept silent that what was reported was untrue re not traceable? If Wean knew who the caller was, why did he never name her? What happened to the documents regarding the call he says he gave to RFK? Why did RFK not discuss what Wean gave him with any of his closest advisers - or if he did, why did they remain silent?

3) Newspaper accounts do not mention Ward as being among those arrested, nor do they mention money being laundered through the Levi Bank. What they do say is that he helped set the scheme up to exploit huge holes in Oregon's gambling laws, and that money was funnelled to him and his companies. Maybe I missed it, but Wean does not seem to include Ward as one of the owners of the bank.

The Church of Conceptual Truth

4) Some aspects of Weans theories are easy to accept as possible/probable -- others are downright loopy (imo).

5) Depite any misgivings about Wean, Ward does seem a highly suspect character - and that alone makes me wary of dismissing your theory on the origins of the call without understanding how you see certain aspects of the FBI report fitting with it.

In view of the above - some clarification:- why do you think this woman was making the call given the details supplied in the FBI report?

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Post by Guest on Sun 29 Nov 2009, 2:37 pm

You raise some pertinent questions, Greg.

As far as the raw FBI info, one clue I think is that "This party then evidently laid the receiver on the table, but no background noises could be heard."

This implies that the telephone operators DID hear background noises at the beginning of the call; yet at this time it's now quiet.

So it seems to me that the woman caller was in a private room, at some up-and-functioning business or establishment (she's not at home alone, or at a pay phone).

I keep getting the impression that she's involved in the legal profession, to be able to delineate the hierarchy of a dozen courts the way she apparently did. Her "rhythmic, fast tempo" of naming the courts I would attribute to her urgently relaying her just-compiled list, as she reads out one type of court while thinking ahead to the next one on her list.

So it doesn't seem to me to be an incantation so much, although she may well be intimately affiliated with a fringe sect. She may simply be a functioning semi-psychotic, who got set off by overhearing talk about JFK's upcoming assassination. Alternatively, she's an acquaintance/etc. of someone who bloody well knew the assassination was about to take place, and this was her way of casting her witch's hex.

A borderline nut case, employed as a legal secretary at Nordman, Berenson & Lewis?

I agree that Gary Wean's writings are battier than Halloween night in the church belfry. I repeat that I don't know how he came to associate Carl Ward, Jr., with JFK's assassination.

(I had some confusion as to Sr. & Jr.; Sr., the former Oxnard mayor, was born 1912 in Indiana and died 2003 in Oxnard. Jr. attended Loyola Law School in LA and was a member of the legal frat society Phi Delta Phi. The Church of Conceptual Truth article you found mentions Ward as 43 years old in 1983- so it's got to be the son who was in on the gambling and drug smuggling) Ward, Jr., would be only 23 in 1963; the father would be 51.

Here's an excerpt from an affidavit Gary Wean filed in Oxnard court in 1991: "Approximately 1958, while working as Det. Sgt. for Ventura Police Dept., I came upon a plot by very wealthy Ventura County people: bankers, lawyers, and judges, to foment, instigate, and fan the flames of massive race riots nationwide. These politically powerful Ventura people were associated with the mastermind of this evil plot, Federal Judge Harry Pregerson and his gangster associates, Mickey Cohen and Abie and Hy Phillips.

Cohen and Pregerson were conducting burglaries of National Guard Armories, stealing large amounts of automatic weapons...

I had received information that William P. Clark, a Ventura County lawyer was involved in the plots to incite racial riots and revolutons and a participant in the burglary of the Oxnard National Guard Armory..."


Clark would become Reagan's National Security Advisor. Don't even think abo

So the Ventura County area is quite in the thick of it for racketeering and gangster judges; and with a prime power base at the Nordman-Berenson law firm, I take Wean seriously that this was the source of the mysterious Oxnard call.

I can hardly conjecture as to why he never named this caller- over than that he was being overdramatic- with 60% of the phones in the area essentially untraceable because of the party-line system, I doubt he knew the caller's name.
But Wean has, after all, named the Nordman-Berenson law firm as responsible. It may or not be Carl Wade, in the final analysis, but it is someone in that law firm.

I can only speculate, but it seems RFK took his own counsel in pursuit of the truth about JFK's death; these documents from Wean may have ended up in his most private files and are still yet to be made public.

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Apparently there's a 12-page document at NARA, dated November 30th, 1963, from the FBI's Oswald HQ file submitted to the HSCA, with no restrictions on it and it's not on-line yet. I'll see about getting a copy mailed. study

The subject description is "Oswald, Lee; Oxnard, Henry". He's a sugar-beet mogul who founded the town of Oxnard in 1903. What's HE doing in an Oswald file Question

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Post by greg parker on Mon 30 Nov 2009, 11:48 pm

As far as the raw FBI info, one clue I think is that "This party then evidently laid the receiver on the table, but no background noises could be heard."

This implies that the telephone operators DID hear background noises at the beginning of the call; yet at this time it's now quiet.

So it seems to me that the woman caller was in a private room, at some up-and-functioning business or establishment (she's not at home alone, or at a pay phone).

Richard,

The FBI report states the initial noise was a "fuzzy sound" which indicated to the operator that "someone had a receiver off". Only noise mentioned after that is the woman whispering. She may have been in an office, but on the basis of the report, I couldn't preclude a private residence, or any other type building.

I keep getting the impression that she's involved in the legal profession, to be able to delineate the hierarchy of a dozen courts the way she apparently did. Her "rhythmic, fast tempo" of naming the courts I would attribute to her urgently relaying her just-compiled list, as she reads out one type of court while thinking ahead to the next one on her list.

Most of the cults had legal problems at one time or another... mainly dealing with their tax exempt status. This may have led some to study the whole structure of the courts. Know thine enemy.

Also any group who had siimilar beliefs to Wean (ie that they were run by the Jewish "mafia") would have built up a good knowledge of the courts and want them brought down.

What the women heard in order was "the President is going to die at 10:10" followed by "The Justice, the Supreme Court, there's going to be fire in all the windows, the Government is going up in flames." It was the way this was read that led Mrs Shores to conclude she was reciting from notes.

According to the book "Ultimate Evil" (about Son of Sam), arson is a big part of Satanic cults - though here it may have been merely symbolic.

So it doesn't seem to me to be an incantation so much, although she may well be intimately affiliated with a fringe sect. She may simply be a functioning semi-psychotic, who got set off by overhearing talk about JFK's upcoming assassination. Alternatively, she's an acquaintance/etc. of someone who bloody well knew the assassination was about to take place, and this was her way of casting her witch's hex.

I lean toward the latter Exclamation

But I'd still like to draw you out on what you think she was trying to achieve with this call.

She doesn't appear to have been trying to warn anyone and save the day because she brushed aside the offer of help from the operator in a normal clear voice -- then went straight back to her whispered "recitations" and dialing.

I do accept if she was a functioning semi-psychotic, any reasoning she employed may be beyond normal understanding. My impression however, is that she was not mentally ill. Rosecruians believe concentration is a key element in successfully obtaining your desires. This woman was hell-bent on NOT having her concentration interfered with by the operators. She very calmly and very quickly disposed of their questions and returned to whatever she was doing without missing a beat.

more later.

I am not dismissing your theory. Parts of it make me go "hmmm", and for mine, it stays on the table. It seems we just have a slightly different interpretation of things described in the report (I do think you have read a slightly different version of it than the one I linked to which may partly account for our differences). I do need to look into Clark, and try and verify some other of Weans claims.

Re Henry Oxnard:

Seems to be a FPCC tie-in and has nothing to do with the town of Oxnard (apart from what you indicated).

Henry Oxnard

Oxnard 2

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Post by Guest on Tue 01 Dec 2009, 1:09 pm

Thanks for the heads-up on Henry Oxnard- but I've already mailed off a request to NARA about sending his file. Aarrghh...

I think we each have the same raw FBI data- a 2-page LA FBI report of the 22nd and a 4-page FBI teletype of the 26th/29th- just perceiving it slightly differently.

I read the "fuzzy sound" as run-of-the-mill electronic static, from a call initiated on a party line. This fuzzy sound spurred operator Doris Bliss to offer assistance, asking "Operator?"

You're correct to point out that the caller recited "the Justice, the Supreme Court, there's going to be a fire in all the windows" as though reading from notes, which is what the operator concluded. (I'd only thought the 12 court names were notated)

But I still see a distinguishing break, when the receiver is set on the table and no background noises are heard. It seems to me that previously the operator could hear the commotion from a couple of other people- perhaps walking, shuffling papers, putting an object down on a desk, sliding a chair back to stand up, even a bit of conversation.
The mysterious woman caller isn't alone; although her associates seem to have left the vicinity in the middle of the call.

You've convinced me she's practicing black magic of sorts; that the caller is definitely a member of some fringe sect (for example, a Wiccan priestess). Yet I don't accept precognition in this incident- the caller was affiliated with a small coven of people who knew the assassination was coming.
(So I'm abandoning my idea that she'd only just overheard someone talking about the event-to-be in Dallas) This was a prepared strategy on her part.

<This woman was hell-bent on NOT having her concentration interfered with by the operators. She very calmly and very quickly disposed of their questions and returned to whatever she was doing without missing a beat>

This characterization is on the mark. I have to amend my profile of "functioning semi-psychotic" to "self-induced psychotic functioning".

The key is identifying the coven of people who knew the assassination was coming. I don't dismiss the possibility, for example, that lawyers & judges will put on capes & cowls on Friday the 13th nights in some dark forest castle to conduct pagan ceremonies. That's a bit suspect

Nor do I dismiss the general connections to the Jewish Syndicate and the overall crimnal underworld in Hollywood and Las Vegas; nor to the corrupt California political structure (of Nixon, Reagan, Howard Hughes?)- as the source of this mysterious Oxnard caller's info for her seeming prediction affraid

It would seem she made her call initially in the presence of some other cult/sect members. Somebody, from within the above-named general connections, was probably also a cult/sect member.

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Post by greg parker on Thu 03 Dec 2009, 10:43 pm

Thanks for the heads-up on Henry Oxnard- but I've already mailed off a request to NARA about sending his file. Aarrghh...

Sorry I didn't get it up here sooner, Richard.

But I still see a distinguishing break, when the receiver is set on the table and no background noises are heard.

You may just be right...I had just never looked at it that way.

You've convinced me she's practicing black magic of sorts; that the caller is definitely a member of some fringe sect (for example, a Wiccan priestess).


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The key is identifying the coven of people who knew the assassination was coming. I don't dismiss the possibility, for example, that lawyers & judges will put on capes & cowls on Friday the 13th nights in some dark forest castle to conduct pagan ceremonies.

An off-the-top list of those who were involved in this or similar new-age mysticism or parapsychology:

David Ferrie
Jack Martin
Thomas Beckham
Fred Crisman
Arthur Young
Kerry Thornley
Elana Garro de Paz
Burton Wolfe (was one of the "New Left" recruits to break the travel ban on Cuba. His travel was sponsored by an ex-senior member of the FPCC. Later in California he wrote anti-Labor screeds and cozied up to Anton LeVey of the Satanic Church)
Wesley Swift
William Dudley Pelley

I'm not suggesting any of these were responsible - just showing that this area is possibly more than just a fringe subject concerning the assassination.

I'd look for any group who used similar language, had major issues with the courts, and wanted to install a whole new system of government. That probably doesn't narrow it down much, uh?

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