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    Re: Reclaiming Parkland

    Post by greg parker on Thu 01 Aug 2013, 7:28 pm

    beowulf wrote:I wish I had bookmarked the page because it has to be seen to be believed--  but I once stumbled over a forum thread where the "SS driver did it" guy and the "Jackie did it" guy were going after each other for sounding like a crazy person.   Surprised)

     Please find it!

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    Re: Reclaiming Parkland

    Post by Hasan Yusuf on Thu 01 Aug 2013, 7:54 pm

    greg parker wrote:
    Hasan Yusuf wrote:Jim,
     
    I've noticed that you still have my email address in your user account. Please don't forget to change it. This can be done by clicking on profile up the top, then clicking on the information tab.

     It's okay Hasan... I just updated it.

    Thanks, Greg. I would have done it, but I just thought I'd leave it up to Jim.

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    Re: Reclaiming Parkland

    Post by Guest on Fri 02 Aug 2013, 8:01 am

    James DiEugenio wrote:I mean that guy should be in Santa Barbara on the anniversary with Fetzer, Cinque and Hankey.

     Don't forget that JVB is appearing...

    ...through Skype.

    Really looking forward to reading the finished product, Jim.  Your ten part series really ripped Vince apart and now, hopefully, more people will get a chance to see how utterly shameless these guys are.

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    Post by James DiEugenio on Fri 02 Aug 2013, 11:47 pm

    You know, I have to say one of the most fascinating parts of the research was reading Helter Skelter.  I had never read that book before.  But as I was reading it, the more and more skeptical I became.  Working the JFK, RFK and MLK beat kind of tunes you into stuff that somehow does not ring true or seems to be concealing something else.

    Well, by the time I finished that book, I had written down 15 things that I thought were alarm bells.

    So I visited some web site on that case and I found out that many of those aficiandoes feel about Bugliosi as we do.  One actually called Helter Skelter a novel.  So I started doing some research in the field.  Today, I think its a cover up book. And I think its main thesis is ludicrous.  Does everyone here know that Manson never  killed anyone?  In fact, he was not even at the Tate home the night of the murders.

    I discovered that two of the victims that night were drug dealers: Sebring and Frykowski.  Sebring was dealing cocaine and Frykwoski was dealing something called Sass, the forerunner of today's Ecstasy. The morning after the murders, two women went to Sebring's house separately.  One went for Steve McQueen, the other for the Mafia.  They wanted to be sure that there were no drugs left at Sebring's house.  And they got to his secret compartment where he kept them and when the cops got there, it was empty.

    The girl who went for the Mob, worked for Sebring. But she was also the friend of Joel Rostau.  Rostau had delivered a stash of drugs to the Tate home the day of  the murders.  He was supposed to come back with more, but he did not.

    On the eve of the Manson trial, Rostau was found dead.  He was clubbed to death, stripped to his underwear and stuffed into the back of a rented car at JFK airport in New York. Clearly a Mob hit.

    You will not find Rostau's name in all 630 pages of Helter Skelter.

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    Re: Reclaiming Parkland

    Post by Hasan Yusuf on Sat 03 Aug 2013, 6:48 pm

    James DiEugenio wrote:Does everyone here know that Manson never  killed anyone? In fact, he was not even at the Tate home the night of the murders.
     
    I wasn't aware of that, Jim. Bugliosi is one hell of a liar, but that kook DVP worships him. Go figure.

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    Post by James DiEugenio on Sun 04 Aug 2013, 2:14 am

    Funny.  I have asked this question of three people in two days.

    Everyone thinks that Manson is some kind of cold blooded killer.  Not true.

    The reason he is in jail is because of the vicarious liability clause of the conspiracy statute.  Which means every person is responsible for the crime who talks about it in advance, even if they are not there when it happens.

    But the point is this: Bugliosi's reason for the crime happening was a bunch of BS.  I am convinced of that today after reading the book and investigating what he left out of it.  I am also convinced that what was left out, was left out on purpose.  And that is how he convicted Manson.  The other reason he did it was to protect some very rich and powerful people in the LA music and entertainment industry.

    I mean anyone who reads that book today, and buys that nutty motive of The Beatles made them do it, geez, how stupid can people be?  Well, as we have found out in the JFK case, the answer is "pretty stupid".  Especially when the media is there to aid the stupidity.

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    Re: Reclaiming Parkland

    Post by Hasan Yusuf on Sun 04 Aug 2013, 9:25 am

    Jim, would you be able to give us a bit of information about what each chapter of the book is about?

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    Post by James DiEugenio on Sun 04 Aug 2013, 11:02 am

    I can't really do that right now.

    BUt concerning Bugliosi and his career that is in Part 1.

    Part 1 is about how Bugliosi's book came about and how it was sold to Playtone.  And I do in depth bios of Bugliosi and Hanks.  In Chapter 1, entitled The Prosecutor, that is where I go into all this BS about Helter Sklelter, and I go into Bugliosi's political campaigns, which he does not like to talk about,  When you read what i dug up, you will know why.

    In that Part, in Chapter 3, I also do an in depth examination of that phony London trial that caused his crappy book. And I show how a really knowledgeable lawyer would have demolished the prosecution case.  DVP will be really up in arms about that one. Because he has it on You Tube. Wait until he sees the comments he gets from informed readers from my book.

    BTW, I already have an invite from cable TV to do a spot.

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    Post by greg parker on Sun 04 Aug 2013, 11:24 am

    BTW, I already have an invite from cable TV to do a spot.

    One for our side cheers

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    Re: Reclaiming Parkland

    Post by Hasan Yusuf on Mon 05 Aug 2013, 5:23 am

    Thanks for the info, Jim. Glad to hear you got an invite to appear on TV.

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    Re: Reclaiming Parkland

    Post by James DiEugenio on Mon 05 Aug 2013, 11:25 am

    Actually, it may be more than that.

    It seems my book is raising some interest because of its provocative title and the fact both Hanks and Bugliosi are in the sub title.

    SO let us keep our fingers crossed and hope for the best.

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    Re: Reclaiming Parkland

    Post by Hasan Yusuf on Mon 05 Aug 2013, 7:08 pm

    James DiEugenio wrote:Actually, it may be more than that.

    It seems my book is raising some interest because of its provocative title and the fact both Hanks and Bugliosi are in the sub title.

    SO let us keep our fingers crossed and hope for the best.

    My fingers are crossed, Jim. It's kind of a shame about Tom Hanks. I actually liked him because I thought he was a great actor. But if you're going to lie and distort evidence about the most significant political assassination in modern times, then you don't have my respect.

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    Post by James DiEugenio on Mon 12 Aug 2013, 12:09 pm

    This was one of the most interesting parts of my research.  What I found out about Hanks and hs buddy Spielberg.

    Something I left out of the book is this.  hanks named his two sons from his second marriage Theodore rand Truman.

    And that is really all you need to know about him to understand his view of American history.

    Truman dropped the two A bombs and Roosevelt screwed Colombia out of its northern province  when they voted not to sell it to use for the Panama Canal.  He then faked a rebellion with help from the French and sent ships into the Caribbean to stop the Colombian army from restoring order.

    That is who Tom Hanks really is.

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    Post by greg parker on Mon 12 Aug 2013, 1:58 pm

    Truman dropped the two A bombs and Roosevelt screwed Colombia out of its northern province  when they voted not to sell it to use for the Panama Canal.  He then faked a rebellion with help from the French and sent ships into the Caribbean to stop the Colombian army from restoring order.
    Well said, Jim.

    Colombian history is entirely relevant to the Kennedy hits.

    Edit to add: no sarcasm should be read into that. It really is relevant.

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    Re: Reclaiming Parkland

    Post by Hasan Yusuf on Thu 22 Aug 2013, 6:11 am

    The trailer for Parkland the movie is out:
     
    http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/watch-trailer-for-jfk-assassination-drama-parkland-produced-by-tom-hanks-starring-paul-giamatti-zac-efron-more-20130821
     
    It looks like it's going to be one VERY shit movie. I can't wait to read what Jim Di wrote about Hanks and Bugliosi in his book.

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    Re: Reclaiming Parkland

    Post by James DiEugenio on Sun 25 Aug 2013, 12:29 am

    By the way, that trailer looks even worse than the script I read.

    They have really tried to jazz it up with editing and sound effects.

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    Re: Reclaiming Parkland

    Post by James DiEugenio on Thu 03 Oct 2013, 1:32 pm

    Reclaiming Parkland is shipping. 

     In fact it has gone out on Kindle already.

    I am doing an interview with Allison Wiener tomorrow of Huffpo.

    Let you know how it turns out.

    There is an interesting backstory to the book that is being published.

    Will let you know about it soon.

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    Post by James DiEugenio on Fri 04 Oct 2013, 4:15 pm

    My interview with Allison.  SHe actually read the book:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HSSuMo7hBw&list=PLC937B599FD2B8241&index=1

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    Re: Reclaiming Parkland

    Post by Hasan Yusuf on Sat 05 Oct 2013, 7:06 am

    James DiEugenio wrote:My interview with Allison.  SHe actually read the book:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HSSuMo7hBw&list=PLC937B599FD2B8241&index=1
    Great job with the interview, Jim. Hopefully she'll have you back on in the near future.

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    Post by greg parker on Sat 05 Oct 2013, 7:38 am

    Hasan Yusuf wrote:
    James DiEugenio wrote:My interview with Allison.  SHe actually read the book:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HSSuMo7hBw&list=PLC937B599FD2B8241&index=1
    Great job with the interview, Jim. Hopefully she'll have you back on in the near future.
    That was the most refreshing part - an interviewer who actually knew the subject matter! Great stuff!

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    Post by Albert Rossi on Sat 05 Oct 2013, 9:56 am

    I second Hasan and Greg.  In fact, I thought it could easily have been longer.

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    Re: Reclaiming Parkland

    Post by James DiEugenio on Mon 07 Oct 2013, 11:36 am

    Good news.  She wants me back.

    I told her Stone was re-releasing JFK next month and she thought that was a great opportunity to do another one.

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    Post by greg parker on Mon 07 Oct 2013, 11:44 am

    Good news.  She wants me back.
    cheers I didn't even know you'd broken up! 


    I told her Stone was re-releasing JFK next month and she thought that was a great opportunity to do another one.
    Oh, you mean another interview?

    Well, that's worth 2 yays cheers cheers 

    See if you can get Stone to reshoot the lunchroom encounter scene! 

    (Okay, So Gary Oldman may need a lot more make-up...)

    if the second Interview is as good as the first, I hope other talking head shows jump on the Jimmy di bandwagon and have you on as a guest as well...

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    Post by Hasan Yusuf on Tue 08 Oct 2013, 7:10 am

    greg parker wrote: I didn't even know you'd broken up! 
    lol!

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    Post by Hasan Yusuf on Tue 08 Oct 2013, 7:12 am

    James DiEugenio wrote:I told her Stone was re-releasing JFK next month and she thought that was a great opportunity to do another one.
    Look forward to seeing you back on the show, Jim.

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