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Lloyd Viles

Post by greg parker on Fri 20 Sep 2013, 7:53 am

The latest suggestion is that Prayer Man could be Lloyd Viles having lunch before crossing the street.

I doubt it.

Viles was 41 and working for mcGrath-Hill. He would not be dressed like a manual worker.

What may be of some interest is that Viles was one of people whose prints were checked against the boxes. Those who were selected for the check were those whose prints the FBI already had (IIRC).

Another thing about Viles is that his home number was CH-7-3854
http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/D%20Disk/Dallas%20Police%20Department/Dallas%20Police%20Department%20Records/Volume%2001/Pages%20104-198.pdf

Found in Oswald's pocket after his death was a list of numbers, including one that had the last 4 digits crossed out - but it started with CH-7
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/26/2608-001.gif

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Re: Lloyd Viles

Post by greg parker on Fri 20 Sep 2013, 10:16 am

greg parker wrote:The latest suggestion is that Prayer Man could be Lloyd Viles having lunch before crossing the street.

I doubt it.

Viles was 41 and working for mcGrath-Hill. He would not be dressed like a manual worker.

What may be of some interest is that Viles was one of people whose prints were checked against the boxes. Those who were selected for the check were those whose prints the FBI already had (IIRC).

Another thing about Viles is that his home number was CH-7-3854
http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/D%20Disk/Dallas%20Police%20Department/Dallas%20Police%20Department%20Records/Volume%2001/Pages%20104-198.pdf

Found in Oswald's pocket after his death was a list of numbers, including one that had the last 4 digits crossed out - but it started with CH-7
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/26/2608-001.gif
Hmmm.

Just found Viles' number listed in some type of ad in the Winnipeg Free Press Jan 1, 1964. Can only see the snippet showing on google. Is it possible someone in Canada had the same number?

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Re: Lloyd Viles

Post by beowulf on Fri 20 Sep 2013, 2:40 pm

Yes, in the US & Canada (unlike w/ postal codes, the two countries share a telephone area code system), the 7 digits CH7-3854 (or 247-3854) would be recycled for each area code. I'll let wikipedia explain.


The North American Numbering Plan is a closed numbering plan and prescribes ten digits for each complete destination routing code. A complete telephone number consists of three basic parts. The most significant part is a 3-digit Numbering Plan Area (NPA) code (area code). Each area code comprises a set of 3-digit central office (CO) codes, which are unique to each telephone exchange within an NPA. The remaining four digits are the specific station number assigned to each telephone.
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Re: Lloyd Viles

Post by greg parker on Fri 20 Sep 2013, 6:45 pm

Thank you, Mr. B... silly question really. If a Canadian newspaper ad showed the same number... 

...don't know what I was thinking.

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Re: Lloyd Viles

Post by Hasan Yusuf on Sat 21 Sep 2013, 11:43 pm

I don’t see how Viles could possibly have been “Prayer man”. TSBD employee, Roberta Parker, told the FBI that at the time of the assassination, she was standing across the street from the TSBD with Viles and Delores Kounas:
 
 
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?mode=searchResult&absPageId=352394
 
 
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?mode=searchResult&absPageId=341277
 
 
Viles confirmed this during his own interview with the FBI:
 
 
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?mode=searchResult&absPageId=352417
 
 
This was also confirmed by Delores Kounas (her interview implies she went across the street with Viles and Parker at about 12:15 pm):
 
 
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?mode=searchResult&absPageId=352379
 
 
William Shelley testified that Viles was outside, but didn’t say where he was standing:
 
 
Mr Ball.
 
 
And who was out there?
 
 
Mr Shelley.
 
 
Well, there was Lloyd Viles of McGraw-Hill, Sarah Stanton, she’s with Texas School Book, and Wesley Frazier and Bill Lovelady joined us shortly afterwards.
 
 
Very interesting about the FBI checking the boxes for Viles’ fingerprints, Greg.

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