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Fifty Years Salute

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Fifty Years Salute

Post by Guest on Fri 22 Nov 2013, 10:37 pm




"And we raised a glass to JFK,
And a dozen more besides,
When I got back to my empty room, 
I suppose I must have cried"  
                         Thousands are Sailing by The Pogues
 
 
President John Fitzgerald Kennedy, I salute you.
 
One day, the Camelot torch will be picked up by somebody who will use it to harness real hope and push forward real change.  
 
One day...


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Re: Fifty Years Salute

Post by Colin Crow on Fri 22 Nov 2013, 11:00 pm

What might have been.

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Re: Fifty Years Salute

Post by Hasan Yusuf on Fri 22 Nov 2013, 11:46 pm

R.I.P President Kennedy. There will always be those amongst us who will remember what you did for this world, and how your untimely death altered the course of History. You will NEVER be forgotten.

R.I.P

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Post by Stan Dane on Sat 23 Nov 2013, 6:27 am

In 1963, my father had a part time job as a bartender on weekends. He worked all day Saturday, November 23.
 
Dad said the crowd was lighter than usual that day and the mood was quiet and solemn. Everyone was watching the continuous news coverage on the TV up in the corner above the bar. Then this one guy comes in, and before long, he starts saying things in raised voice such as "That dirty bastard had it coming," and stuff like that. He wouldn't shut up.

Dad asked him to tone it down, but he didn't. Finally Dad quietly walked around the bar, anduncharacteristically for himgrabbed the guy by the collar and "escorted" him to the entrance. As the guy went through the door, Dad gave him a final push for good measure.
 
There was applause.

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Post by Hasan Yusuf on Sat 23 Nov 2013, 7:15 am

Lee Farley wrote:
Thanks for posting this, Lee. Don't recall ever seeing it.

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Post by Hasan Yusuf on Sun 24 Nov 2013, 7:14 am

George Bailey's article:

http://oswaldsmother.blogspot.com.au/2013/11/fifty-years-ago-today_1799.html

I think Bailey runs one of the best blogs on the net.

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Re: Fifty Years Salute

Post by Goban Saor on Tue 26 Nov 2013, 7:42 am

I thought it might be appropriate to post a poem here about the death of JFK but I couldn’t find a good one. Even the wonderful WH Auden’s ‘Elegy for JFK’ is very poor by his standards.
 
Here’s a poem about the death of the 17th century Irish chieftain Eoghan Ruadh O’Neill that touches on emotions and themes evoked for me by JFK’s death:
 
 Lament for the Death of Eoghan Ruadh O’Neill
 
By Thomas Davis
 
 
 
“DID they dare, did they dare, to slay Eoghan Ruadh O’Neill?”
“Yes, they slew with poison him they feared to meet with steel.”
“May God wither up their hearts! May their blood cease to flow,
May they walk in living death, who poisoned Eoghan Ruadh.”
 
“Though it break my heart to hear, say again the bitter words.
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From Derry, against Cromwell, he marched to measure swords:
But the weapon of the Sassanach met him on his way.
And he died at Cloch Uachtar, upon St. Leonard’s day.
 
“Wail, wail ye for the Mighty One. Wail, wail ye for the Dead,
Quench the hearth, and hold the breath—with ashes strew the head.
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How tenderly we loved him. How deeply we deplore!
Holy Saviour! but to think we shall never see him more!
 
“Sagest in the council was he, kindest in the hall,
Sure we never won a battle—’twas Eoghan won them all.
Had he lived—had he lived—our dear country had been free:
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But he’s dead, but he’s dead, and ’tis slaves we’ll ever be.
 
“O’Farrell and Clanricarde, Preston and Red Hugh,
Audley and MacMahon—ye valiant, wise and true:
But—what are ye all to our darling who is gone?
The Rudder of our Ship was he, our Castle’s corner stone.
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“Wail, wail him through the Island! Weep, weep for our pride!
Would that on the battlefield our gallant chief had died!
Weep the Victor of Beinn Burb—weep him, young and old:
Weep for him, ye women—your beautiful lies cold!
 
“We thought you would not die—we were sure you would not go,
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And leave us in our utmost need to Cromwell’s cruel blow—
Sheep without a shepherd, when the snow shuts out the sky—
O! why did you leave us, Eoghan? Why did you die?
 
“Soft as woman’s was your voice, O’Neill! bright was your eye,
O! why did you leave us, Eoghan? Why did you die?
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Your troubles are all over, you’re at rest with God on high,
But we’re slaves, and we’re orphans, Eoghan!—why did you die?”
 
 
Eoghan Ruadh O’Neill (Owen Roe) was the nephew of the Hugh O’Neill referred to in the note above. He acquired a great reputation while in the Spanish service and he came over to Ireland to aid the Gaelic and Anglo-Irish leaders who had formed the Catholic Confederation. He had the loyalty of the Gaelic but not of the Anglo-Irish party in the war of 1641–49. He died as Oliver Cromwell unified the English command in Ireland, and it was believed that he had been poisoned. He is buried in an island in Lough Oughter in Cavan.

  The utterance is supposed to be made by one of O’Neill’s clansmen who is in Ormonde’s camp in the south, and who hears of O’Neill’s death from a messenger who has come into the camp. “The Lament for the Death of Eoghan Ruadh O’Neill” was the first ballad Thomas Davis wrote—with it he initiated a movement in Irish verse that lasted for a long time.
 

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Post by Mark A. O'Blazney on Tue 26 Nov 2013, 8:08 pm

That was awesome, GS.  Jack and Eoghan were cut from the same cloth, for sure.  This we connaught deny.  Thank you.  Onward and All Hail!

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Post by Goban Saor on Wed 27 Nov 2013, 8:54 am

You’re more than welcome, Mark, and thanks for the appreciation.

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Post by Goban Saor on Fri 14 Nov 2014, 3:32 am

As it’s approaching the 51st anniversary of the assassination of John F Kennedy and as I believe this is the last or second last day for posting on this thread, I’m posting this now.

About a year ago I posted ‘Lament for the Death of Eoghan Ruadh O’Neill’ above as a tribute to JFK. At the time I wondered whether my choice was tainted by chauvinism and said more about me being Irish than about JFK.

I was reassured on this recently when I was flicking through my copy of Sons and Brothers by Richard D. Mahoney and came across the following description, which I had forgotten since I read the book ten years or more ago, of Robert Kennedy’s response in the months after his brother’s assassination (p. 302):

Bobby grimly lockstepped through the cascade of oral tributes, the unending references in his presence to the tragedy and the greatness of his brother, and the renaming of parks, boulevards, and airports in President Kennedy's name. Gradually he learned to speak about Jack in public without breaking down. At a St. Patrick's Day dinner in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, in 1964, he quoted the lines Jack had often used in reference to Owen Roe O'Neill, an Irish freedom fighter:
 
We are sheep without a shepherd,
When the snow shuts out the sky —
Oh! Why did you leave us, Owen?

Why did you die?


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