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Eugene Dinkin Empty Eugene Dinkin

Thu 16 Jan 2014, 4:57 pm
There is an old thread on Dinkin that has been resurrected at the ed forum.

Did he use "psychological sets" to predict the assassination?

Or did he figure it out from intercepted radio traffic?

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It was in my opinion, the first one - kind of...

Either Dinkin explained himself badly, or those he talked to had misunderstood some key points.

A "psychological set" is not something placed into a story - it is simply another term for "mind set". Once that is understood, everything falls into place.  The media, advertizing agencies, magicians and intelligence agencies have long sought to influence what the "audience" thinks. There is absolutely nothing new here. What Dinkin was saying was that he saw a pattern in a series of stories that led him to believe that the readership was being softened up to accept an assassination attempt on Kennedy. A good "mentalist" could also pick up enough clues to hazard a guess at a time-frame and the type of person who would be blamed.

I have actually used this method, albeit in hindsight, to determine the reason for a particular historical event. The same principles applied. There was a series of stories over a period of time which, when put side by side, where quite obviously attempting to get mass acceptance for a particular idea. All the old tricks were used to keep the sheep in line... fear, xenophobia, patriotism...  I mean, it was pure artistry. No banging anyone over the head... just incremental steps eventually leading the reader to one conclusion and one conclusion only...  and once enough people had drawn that conclusion for themselves, the "event" could go ahead.

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Eugene Dinkin Empty Re: Eugene Dinkin

Thu 16 Jan 2014, 10:38 pm
"Psychological set" definition:

http://www.termwiki.com/EN:psychological_set

A consumer's mind set, his or her positive or negative feelings or predispositions towards a particular brand or company, the consumer's mind set is formed by his or her needs, perceptions and attitudes, see attitudes, needs, and perception.
 
Anyone who thinks conspirators discussed details of a presidential assassination over radio for someone like Dinkin to stumble upon really should reconsider.

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Sat 18 Jan 2014, 4:47 am
It wasn't necessarily the conspirators themselves that Dinkin eavesdropped on. It could've been reports from the US-based agent of a foreign intelligence agency-- KGB say or French intel-- that had stumbled over elements of the plot and reported what they'd found back home by encrypted cable (which the NSA then secretly decoded). 
It seems someone gave Dinkin some very good advice and told him to not to mention that part, thus the psychological set business. 
In any event, the rough way Dinkin was treated is exactly how Oswald would have been treated the minute he returned from Russia had he not been working for Uncle Sam all along as a double agent.
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Sat 18 Jan 2014, 6:09 am
beowulf wrote:It wasn't necessarily the conspirators themselves that Dinkin eavesdropped on. It could've been reports from the US-based agent of a foreign intelligence agency-- KGB say or French intel-- that had stumbled over elements of the plot and reported what they'd found back home by encrypted cable (which the NSA then secretly decoded). 
It seems someone gave Dinkin some very good advice and told him to not to mention that part, thus the psychological set business. 
In any event, the rough way Dinkin was treated is exactly how Oswald would have been treated the minute he returned from Russia had he not been working for Uncle Sam all along as a double agent.
We'll have to agree to disagree on this, Mr. B.

I've used the Dinkin method as set out in the files.

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Sat 18 Jan 2014, 6:34 am
Since all I know about Dinkin is what I've learned from you, you clearly have the better of the argument. Surprised)
My point was only that he could've learned of the conspiracy by (as Elvis Costello might say) watching the detectives instead of the conspirators.
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Sat 18 Jan 2014, 7:17 am
beowulf wrote:Since all I know about Dinkin is what I've learned from you, you clearly have the better of the argument. Surprised)
My point was only that he could've learned of the conspiracy by (as Elvis Costello might say) watching the detectives instead of the conspirators.
I'll see your Elvis Costello and raise you a John Butler Trio

MEDIA


When all they do is censor our minds
Only telling what they want us to know
Only half of the story told


So what is wrong? What is right?
No truth can there be seen
Well it's all there in your new religion
Just turn on your TV screen


Watch the sex and drugs and all that violence
Look what they are feeding you
Propaganda yes indeed its,
its all there to confuse


But how are we to make sense of these turbulent times
When all they do is brainwash our minds
Only telling what they want us to know
Only half of the story told 


And if the truth can't be found
I'll find my own underground
And if the truth is never to be seen
I'll find my own in between


What you watch, what you read
What you perceive is to be truth
It is all so subjective
So what you believe is up to you


But what are we to believe in
Between the lies and the truth? Youth
Media has vested interest
So what you believe is up to you.
You know its up to you
Don't believe the lies, read between the lines,
Don't believe the lies, critically analyse

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Eugene Dinkin Empty Re: Eugene Dinkin

Sat 18 Jan 2014, 12:09 pm
greg parker wrote:I'll see your Elvis Costello and raise you a John Butler Trio
Never heard of the band so I looked them up and listened to the tune. Good stuff. Profound lyrics.

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