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Re: pick a number

Post by greg parker on Mon 03 Feb 2014, 2:02 pm

Albert Rossi wrote:
greg parker wrote:Damn Vikings are everywhere!

Before we go accusing those damn Vikings, we had better determine which runic system this badly formed rune belongs to.  If it is the Elder *sowilu, then it couldn't have been the Vikings, but might have been a tribe from the migratory period as early as the 2nd century -- discussed by Tacitus (Cimbri, anyone?) --, up to 7th century in the north.  If you think, on the other hand, that this is the Younger Futhark 'sol' but badly closed and slightly angled, then let's be clear:  it was the Vikings from Norway/Sweden, and not the Danish ones, who are the accomplices. 

Let us, as always, attempt to be as precise as possible.
Hmmm. someone was sowing the seeds of confusion because what I see is one from the Elder and one from the Younger. 

I think we need to call in an independent adjudicator since Mr Dane may have some baggage here. 

I call Ralph Cinque to the stand as a bona fide Viking expert
http://vinlandsaga.com/

I confidently predict that by the time Mr Cinque steps down, we will all know with certainty that PrayerMan was wearing a Berserker helmet and was known among his colleagues as "Hundinger, The Slightly Odd".

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Post by Albert Rossi on Mon 03 Feb 2014, 2:38 pm

Maybe that was one of the horns of Gallehus in his hand rather than a Coke bottle!  What do you say, Mr. Cinque?

P.S., are you sure that's not "Hum-dinger"?

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Post by Guest on Mon 03 Feb 2014, 3:07 pm

Interesting.

I think it is also related to how we perceive things. Our minds want to fill in the space to make a 5 a 6 and want to decipher the numerals even as letters, the 4 looks like a Y if you stare long enough as your brain tries to compensate. It can be demonstrated by the following:


 Y0UR M1ND 15 R34D1NG 7H15 4U70M471C4LLY W17H0U7 3V3N 7H1NK1NG 4B0U7 17.

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Post by beowulf on Mon 03 Feb 2014, 3:24 pm

54 or possibly 59

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Post by greg parker on Mon 03 Feb 2014, 4:48 pm

Carmine Savastano wrote:Interesting.

I think it is also related to how we perceive things. Our minds want to fill in the space to make a 5 a 6 and want to decipher the numerals even as letters, the 4 looks like a Y if you stare long enough as your brain tries to compensate. It can be demonstrated by the following:


 Y0UR M1ND 15 R34D1NG 7H15 4U70M471C4LLY W17H0U7 3V3N 7H1NK1NG 4B0U7 17.
I understand what you're saying here, Carmine, but the person who wrote it had no idea it was ever going to be scrutinized. It was just a scrawled answer on a form. The other thing is it doesn't really matter what our minds want to perceive. There is an almost universal method in writing "5"s and "6"s. Given the way that people write them, it could not be a "6".  OTOH, Mr B is right. The second number could be a "9"  - and though it most definitely is not, you could not rule it out simply on the mechanics of how "4"s and "9" are written.

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Post by Albert Rossi on Tue 04 Feb 2014, 12:32 am

There is the further difference that Carmine's example gives much more semantic context out of which to "complete" the ambiguous words; that is, there is enough informational content.  Take a segment of the example: "15".  By itself, you would not automatically transform that into "IS".  Same with "7H15" and "THIS".  So, when excised from context, I'm not sure what our brain does with those two numerical characters is exactly the same process.

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Post by beowulf on Tue 04 Feb 2014, 8:40 am

I was in court today with a client who was pleading guilty to a minor charge. As we stood before the bench, the judge glanced and then stared at the paperwork then she looked at me very perplexed and asked how old my client was (24). He had handwritten his DOB year on the plea sheet as '89. The judge had read it as '99 and of course my client didn't look 14.
Naturally it made me think about this thread. Surprised)

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Post by greg parker on Tue 04 Feb 2014, 9:24 pm

beowulf wrote:I was in court today with a client who was pleading guilty to a minor charge. As we stood before the bench, the judge glanced and then stared at the paperwork then she looked at me very perplexed and asked how old my client was (24). He had handwritten his DOB year on the plea sheet as '89. The judge had read it as '99 and of course my client didn't look 14.
Naturally it made me think about this thread. Surprised)
You should have had an ipad handy and got her opinion.

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Re: pick a number

Post by greg parker on Wed 12 Mar 2014, 6:40 pm

From LHOCW part 3 on Public School 44


In January 1953, Marguerite and Lee moved to apartment 3C, 825 East 179th St. His new school would be Public School 44, but Lee put his foot down and refused to enroll there until March 23rd.

Although the school record available to us is not a good copy, some valuable information can still be gleaned from it.  
A footnote to the above states:


This information includes his height. It is only important in that this school record has been claimed by the author of “Harvey & Lee” to “prove” the person at school in New York was the historical Lee Harvey Oswald while the shorter, smarter, more introverted “double” was in New Orleans. The problem with this is that the record does not show Oswald to be 64” (5’ 4”) as claimed. The figure is 54” (or 4’ 6”).  There was no “taller” or “shorter” version of Lee Oswald. There was one boy who was 4’ 6” at age 13 and who then, like the vast majority of boys, went through puberty and had growth spurts. 

The record in dispute
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=10765&relPageId=8

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Post by Stan Dane on Sat 29 Mar 2014, 12:02 pm

Over at DPF, Bob Deer just said in the "Oswald's height as given in PS 44 records" thread:
T11 Bob Deer wrote:You know, I swore I wasn't going to answer another one of your moronic posts but, you, my friend, are literally begging for a good ass kicking. I'll bet you had your ass kicked on a regular basis in school, didn't you.

Okay, for starters, I don't care what backward part of this planet you come from, that number on the right is unquestionably a "64". If you think otherwise, you are likely on some serious drugs and should seek counselling for your addiction. The other number is possibly up for debate but, to my eyes, it appears it would be "67.25".

Yes, this would mean that he shrunk 2.75 inches in four months but, have you never heard of someone making a typographical error? A typo is far more likely than your explanation which would, as I stated, have the child growing 10.5-12.5 inches in four months.
Two months ago when you asked folks to "pick a number" in this thread, Bob said the following:
Traveller11 wrote:Looks like 54 to me. Is this related to the manufacture date of the Western Cartridge Co. 6.5mm Carcano ammunition?
Is this the same thing Greg?

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Post by greg parker on Sat 29 Mar 2014, 12:54 pm

Stan Dane wrote:Over at DPF, Bob Deer just said in the "Oswald's height as given in PS 44 records" thread:
T11 Bob Deer wrote:You know, I swore I wasn't going to answer another one of your moronic posts but, you, my friend, are literally begging for a good ass kicking. I'll bet you had your ass kicked on a regular basis in school, didn't you.

Okay, for starters, I don't care what backward part of this planet you come from, that number on the right is unquestionably a "64". If you think otherwise, you are likely on some serious drugs and should seek counselling for your addiction. The other number is possibly up for debate but, to my eyes, it appears it would be "67.25".

Yes, this would mean that he shrunk 2.75 inches in four months but, have you never heard of someone making a typographical error? A typo is far more likely than your explanation which would, as I stated, have the child growing 10.5-12.5 inches in four months.
Two months ago when you asked folks to "pick a number" in this thread, Bob said the following:
Traveller11 wrote:Looks like 54 to me. Is this related to the manufacture date of the Western Cartridge Co. 6.5mm Carcano ammunition?
Is this the same thing Greg?
To be fair, Stan, the Deerstalker is talking about the number as seen in the version of the document posted by the Fez. 

As I said over there - I agree it is a "64" in that document. 

But they won't be able to explain the self-created problems this causes for them.

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Post by Hasan Yusuf on Sun 30 Mar 2014, 1:01 am

Prudhomme the dick wrote:You know, I swore I wasn't going to answer another one of your moronic posts but, you, my friend, are literally begging for a good ass kicking. I'll bet you had your ass kicked on a regular basis in school, didn't you.

Okay, for starters, I don't care what backward part of this planet you come from, that number on the right is unquestionably a "64". If you think otherwise, you are likely on some serious drugs and should seek counselling for your addiction. The other number is possibly up for debate but, to my eyes, it appears it would be "67.25".

Yes, this would mean that he shrunk 2.75 inches in four months but, have you never heard of someone making a typographical error? A typo is far more likely than your explanation which would, as I stated, have the child growing 10.5-12.5 inches in four months.

Let me see if I've got this right. Greg gets chastised by the mods for calling a statement made by Hargrove "moronic", but they let Prudhomme get away with the above bullshit? The words "unfair moderation" come to mind. Too bad for the mods that it will only show to anyone wanting to join the forum how unfair they are.

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