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Re: JFK Assassination

Post by greg parker on Fri 26 Sep 2014, 2:30 pm

Thanks Gerry - it's building into quite a bundle of info. 

LHO's "brig" time can fit into a couple of scenarios. 

I missed any reference to Pash when looking into Ishii, so thanks for that. It provides an entry point for me to extend out from.


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Post by gerrrycam on Fri 26 Sep 2014, 2:36 pm

Gerald Campeau
 

http://www.ctka.net/pr797-rfk.html
Tie in with Pash, Sirhan and Oswald






Probe V4N5: Sirhan Says "I didn't kill RKF"
On Wednesday, June 18, 1997, Sirhan Bishara Sirhan stunned a parole board by declaring publicly that he now believes he is innocent of the crime for which he is incarcerated: the assassination of...
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Post by gerrrycam on Sat 27 Sep 2014, 12:48 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamikaze

Did Pash and Japanese ALSOS researchers study the Kamikaze pilots as a model for 9/11 attack.

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http://www.paperlessarchives.com/FreeTitles/ARTICHOKECIAFiles.pdf

come back from long distance
page 17 of 59

sorry about my coppy and paste but document  is from 50 and declasifide in 2004

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G. H. Estabrooks - WantToKnow.info

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Psychologist G. H. Estabrooks reminisces about his long career as a hypnotist. Dr. Estabrooks discusses how he "programmed" American spies with hypnosis
 
[*]looks to me Jack Ruby had his own in house hypnotist and CIA had LA hypnotist on there payrole in 1963
[*]who hypnotised Sirhan Sirhan???

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Post by greg parker on Sun 28 Sep 2014, 10:33 pm

who hypnotised Sirhan Sirhan???

Sirhan Sirhan.

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Post by gerrrycam on Tue 30 Sep 2014, 4:23 pm

ISRAEL,THE BOMB and Kennedy
The President made sure that the Israeli prime minister paid for his defiance. In late April, Egypt, Syria, and Iraq united to form the short-lived Arab Federation; such unity was Ben-Gurion's recurring nightmare. He instinctively turned to Washington, and proposed in a letter to the President that the United States and Soviet Union join forces to publicly declare the territorial integrity and security of every Middle Eastern state. "If you can spare an hour or two for a discussion with me on the situation and possible solutions," Ben-Gurion asked, "I am prepared to fly to Washington at your convenience and without any publicity." Kennedy rejected Ben-Gurion's offer of a state visit and expressed "real reservations," according to Ben-Gurion's biography, about any joint statement on the issue with the Soviets. Five days later, a disappointed Ben-Gurion sent a second note to Kennedy: "Mr. President, my people have the right to exist ... and this existence is in danger." He requested that the United States sign a security treaty with Israel. Again the answer was no, and it was clear to the Mapai Party that Ben-Gurion's leadership and his intractability about Dimona were serious liabilities in Washington. Golda Meir acknowledged to Ben-Gurion's biographer, "We knew about these approaches.... We said nothing, even though we wondered."
A few weeks later, on June 16, 1963, Ben-Gurion abruptly resigned as prime minister and defense minister, ending his fifteen-year reign as Israel's most influential public official.
The reactor went critical-that is, began a sustained chain reaction-sometime in 1962 with no significant problems, and was capable of being operated at more than seventy megawatts, far more then 24 megawatts they said.
Later that year, the private French construction companies at Dimona, always eager for business, began once again to work on the vital chemical reprocessing plant underground at Dimona- despite de Gaulle's insistence that France would have nothing more to do wi...th the Israeli bomb. The French would build at a furious pace for the next three years, at high pay, finishing the reprocessing plant and the elaborate waste treatment and safety facilities that were essential. French technicians and engineers, who had begun drifting away, were back in force in Beersheba, whose population was growing steadily (it reached seventy thousand

General De Gaulle was furious at the assassination plots and attempted assassination upon himself. He called in his most trusted officers with the French Intelligence Agency and they advised him that they were already working on the investigation to ferret out who was behind DeGaulle’s attempted assassination.

The French Intelligence Agency in a very short while completely traced the assassination attempt through Permindex, the Swiss corporation, to the Solidarists, the Fascist White Russian emigre intelligence organization and Division Five, the espionage section of the FBI, into the headquarters of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization in Brussels, Belgium

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Post by Martin Hay on Wed 01 Oct 2014, 12:49 am

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who hypnotised Sirhan Sirhan???

Sirhan Sirhan.


Sirhan hypnotised himself?

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Post by gerrrycam on Wed 01 Oct 2014, 2:33 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Joseph_Bryan
 Some say Dr WJ Bryan Died in 1977 at age 53 in LV

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Post by greg parker on Wed 01 Oct 2014, 7:52 am

Martin Hay wrote:
greg parker wrote:
who hypnotised Sirhan Sirhan???

Sirhan Sirhan.


Sirhan hypnotised himself?
Self-hypnosis as practiced by AMORC and other groups he may have hung around.

You really have to dig into the methods of these cults to get a feel of how it works but there is a lot of pressure applied similar to the techniques used in recent times against prisoners taken in the war on terror. Sleep deprivation, deep psychological pressure, carrots and sticks based on psychological profiling. 

Carbon copy to Juan Roa Sierra, but in neither case was AMORC the culprit though their name and methods were used.

Self-hypnosis by a virtually brain-appropriated zombie is the perfect crime.

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Post by greg parker on Wed 01 Oct 2014, 8:01 am

From LHOCW


Estabrooks was a Canadian born Harvard graduate who in his later years claimed among other things that he had produced hypno-couriers for use in WWII. In fact, Estabrooks seemed to give interviews and write pieces on what would be highly classified subject matter – concerning the splitting of personalities and the hypno-programming of agents - all too freely and these later tales should be taken with a grain of salt.  Estabrooks’ efforts here were likely a deliberate ploy to discredit the work actually done in those areas by positioning the claims inside the mythos of the tabloid press.[sup][1][/sup]





[1] Estabrooks for example, wrote an oft-quoted article in 1971 for the Hearst publication Science Digest – a Reader’s Digest style magazine which dumbed down science for the masses by veering increasingly into pseudoscience.  Estabrooks used the article to describe how, during WWII, he created a hypno-courier for the army, and in another case, split the personality of a Marine lieutenant for use in an anti-Communist operation.     

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Post by greg parker on Wed 01 Oct 2014, 8:03 am

gerrrycam wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Joseph_Bryan
 Some say Dr WJ Bryan Died in 1977 at age 53 in LV
A lot of confusion on the web about his death because his father had the same name.

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Post by gerrrycam on Wed 01 Oct 2014, 1:51 pm

http://www.rense.com/politics6/sirhan.htm

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/28/justice/california-rfk-second-gun/?hpt=hp_c2

Sirhan's father, Bishara, was characterized as a stern man who often beat his sons harshly. Shortly after the family's move to California, Bishara returned alone to the Middle East. Sirhan never became an American citizen, retaining instead his Jordanian citizenship.
As an adult, Sirhan changed church denominations several times, joining Baptist and Seventh-day Adventist churches.Then in 1966, he joined the occult organization Ancient Mystical Order of the Rose Cross, commonly known as Rosicrucians.The significance of the latter would surface later, when some psychiatrists who examined him allegedly found he appeared to have been hypnotized. Sirhan was employed as a stable boy in 1965 at the Santa Anita race track in Arcadia, California.

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Thane Eugene Cesar
Armed security guard standing directly behind Robert Kennedy when he was shot in the back of the head. Cesar — a supporter of the racist candidate George Wallace, and outspoken in his hatred of the Kennedy’s — was hired as a part-time security guard just a few months before getting called up at the last

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Post by gerrrycam on Thu 02 Oct 2014, 12:25 pm

The Robert F. Kennedy Assassination: New Revelations on ...

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Philip H. Melanson - 1994 - ‎History
The most intriguing item is the LAPD chronology's reference to data about Sirhan provided by Army Intelligence: Tim Richdale, Military Intelligence liaison, ...

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Los Angeles Coroner Thomas Noguchi conducted the official autopsy on the body of Robert Francis Kennedy on the morning of July 6. This very experienced coroner removed one intact bullet and fragments from another. The operation was witnessed by, according to writer Dan Moldea, "three forensic pathologists from the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology in Washington and by two of Noguchi's associates."


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No one has ever been able to prove or even produce direct evidence of Sirhan being a victim of the CIA's MKULTRA mind control program. What we do know of Sirhan is that he would be an ideal candidate for hypnotic suggestion and the sort of mind control that the CIA claimed they only investigated with MKULTRA but, most assuredly, actually practiced. A childhood filled with shocking violence combined with an abusive father left Sirhan an almost uniquely talented hypnotic subject by virtue of the fact that dissociation had become a well established defense mechanism for him. This was noted by Dr. Bernard Diamond, who was called to hypnotize Sirhan in his jail cell following the assassination in the hope of eliciting a remembrance of the events and a confession from Sirhan. Diamond noted that Sirhan achieved a deep trance almost instantaneously, suggesting that Sirhan had been hypnotized many times before.

While under a trance, Sirhan was asked to climb the bars of his cell like a monkey. He dutifully obeyed. He was asked to recreate pages from his journal. Again, he dutifully obeyed, writing over and over, "RFK must die." He could remember every detail of that evening, including talking to the woman in the polka dot dress, but could not be induced to remember actually shooting Bobby Kennedy. Diamond even attempted implanting the memory in Sirhan's mind via a post-hypnotic suggestion. Even that failed with this amazingly adept hypnotic subject.

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Sketch of Sirhan being hypnotized in his jail cell. Even under deep trance, he could not remember details of the shooting

The fact that Sirhan had disappeared for three months in 1967, a time in which he was working with horses and was, according to witnesses, likely spending time with Jerry Owen, puts Sirhan in a position to have been intensively worked on by a hypno-programmer. The fact that Jerry Owen and William Bryan, the self-confessed CIA mind control expert, both worked the same fundamentalist preaching circuit, along with the fact that Sirhan seemingly makes reference to Albert DeSalvo, the alleged Boston Strangler and one of Bryan's most famous subjects, in his journal would make the connection between Bryan and Sirhan not unlikely at all.

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There is nothing more synonymous with Boris Pash then filming his prey

Legacy of Secrecy: The Long Shadow of the JFK Assassination

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An LAPD officer confirmed a mysterious three-month gap in Sirhan's life to William ... from “Military Intelligence in San Francisco . . . that Sirhan was a student at .

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Post by greg parker on Thu 02 Oct 2014, 7:19 pm

The fact that Jerry Owen and William Bryan, the self-confessed CIA mind control expert, both worked the same fundamentalist preaching circuit, along with the fact that Sirhan seemingly makes reference to Albert DeSalvo, the alleged Boston Strangler and one of Bryan's most famous subjects, in his journal would make the connection between Bryan and Sirhan not unlikely at all.
There's one of two issues that should rule Bryan out. Those that do, don't talk. Those that don't, but feel entitled to a place in history, never shut up bragging. 

The other issue is that Bryan got into trouble using hypnosis to seduce female patients. The victims came forward. That in itself speaks volumes for his LACK of ability to properly use hypnosis to get away with anything.

Sirhan hypnostized himself after being given a blitzkrieg of instructions and rituals to memorize, coupled with psychological techniques around reward/punishment/acceptance/rejection... all the while subtly manipulating him to concentrate all his anger and frustration at RFK. When he was ready, he hypnotized himself under instruction. 

The big carrot in Sirhan's phych cupboard was sex. With one girl in particular. When his defense wanted to call her to the stand, he insisted he wanted to change his plea to guilty to keep her out of the court. Two of the rituals he was learning were Crowley sex rituals. 

Who was that girl in the polka dot dress with the pug nose? IMO, it was the girl he wanted. She was the trigger.

He didn't kill RFK. His role was simply to turn up, pull his gun and started squeezing. Didn't matter where the bullets went.

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 Robert Kennedy, Sirhan Sirhan
[DVD 2011] Second Dallas. Who Killed RFK?
Sirhan Sirhan and His Account of Delta Programming Mind Control
[2011 May] Convicted RFK assassin says girl manipulated him
[2011] JFK and RFK: In the Shadow of Dallas and LA
[2011] RFK: Outing the CIA at the Ambassador  In a recent article (“JFK and RFK: In the Shadow of Dallas and LA”), I cited the identifications of three officials of the CIA at the Ambassador Hotel when Bobby was shot, by Bradley Ayers, who knew all three, and by Wayne Smith, who knew one of them very well.
Who Killed Bobby Kennedy?: The Unsolved Murder of Robert F. Kennedy, by Shane O'Sullivan
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the time that Kennedy died in Dallas, Jack Ruby had been in the company of two known hypnotists. One of them was CIA agent David Ferrie, from New Orleans. The other was Billie Del Mar, who was then entertaining in Jack Ruby's Carousel Club. Del Mar fled from Dallas the day of the Kennedy assassination, and was never called to testify before the Warren Commission. Mae Brussell INSIDE THE HEARST KIDNAPPING

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A List of ostensible White Russian
Boris T Pash
 Paul Raigorodsky
George Bouhe
Peter Paul Gregory
Jean DeMenil
William Dalzell
George DeMohrenschildt and Wife
 Warren C. De Brueys ?
Mrs. Teofil Meller
Max E. Clark wife
Zapruder Abraham
 Note: Jack Ruby was a 2nd generation immigrant from Russia and It should be pointed out here that John Connally, Paul Raigorodsky and Jean DeMenil were close friends and business associates. The were members of an exclusive club in Northern Jamaica. The name of the club was Tryall located on Montego Bay

The main organization behind the White Russians, especially the ones associated with the assassination, was the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia, which was funded by the CIA through the Philadelphia based Catherwood Foundation, as well as the Tolstoy Foundation, as Judge points out.

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NY Times story Dec 26 1975
Hunt Says CIA Had Murder Unit
By John Crewdson
E. Howard Hunt, Jr., the former Central Intelligence Agency officer
who was convicted of helping carry out the 1972 Watergate break-in
says he was told in the mid-1950's that the CIA had a small unit set up
to arrange for the assassination of suspected double agents and
similar low-ranking officials.
In a recent interview at the federal correctional institution at the
Elgin Air Force Base in Florida, where he is serving an 8-year sentence
for his role in the Watergate conspiracy, Hunt said he recalled
having been told by CIA superiors in 1954 or 1955 that Boris T Pash,
an agency official, was in charge of the assassination unit.
A CIA spokesman declined comment when asked whether Pash had ever
been employed by the agency or what his capacity there might have been.
The Army's register of retired officers shows however, that Pash left the
service with an undescribed "permanent disability," in November, 1957,
about two years after Hunt said he first met the colonel.
In the interview, Hunt said that during the period in question
he was a staff officer assigned to the Balkans division, and that on one
occasion he and his colleagues had encountered "very substantial
problems" with an organization the agency was "maintaining in
West Germany."
The difficulty, Hunt said concerned a person in the organization, an
Albanian, "who probably was a penetration," the CIA term for
an agent discovered to be working for a hostile intelligence service.
Hunt said that it was decided to "neutralize" the man "in such a way
that the other side would not know that we were aware of his activities,
and, of course, assassination was the obvious answer."
Hunt said that he inquired about arranging for such an assassination
and "I was told that we had that capability," and "that the guy to see
about this sort of thing was Col. Pash."
After having been directed by his superiors to Pash's office, Hunt
recalled, "I talked to Boris and I said, "Look, we have this problem
here, is it something you guys can handle,"
Pash replied that he was not sure, Hunt said, and seemed to react
with a "sort of shock that the subject had even been brought up."
Hunt, consequently said he left the matter there, and never inquired
afterward about what fate, if any, had befallen the suspected agent.


 Simpson, Christopher"Blowback," p. 153, says that Pash
"...served as the Army’s representative on Bloodstone in the spring of 1948, when the tasks of that project, including recruiting defectors, smuggling refugees out from behind the Iron Curtain, and assassinations, were established. In March 1949, Pash was assigned by the Army to the OPC division of the CIA."

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(173) FBI interview of Jack S. Martin, Nov. 25, 1963, David W. Ferrie file
Martin stated that he observed in Ferrie's home a number foreign made firearms and it is his opinion that Ferrie could have taught Oswald how to purchase a foreign made possibly have purchased the gun that was shown on television. He advised that he saw similar type weapons at Ferrie's home when he visited there 2 years ago.(181)
Martin further informed the FBI that he believed Ferrie was an "amateur hypnotist" who may have been capable of hypnotizing Oswald. (182) Further, Ferrie had once told him about a young friend who had witnessed an alleged "crime against nature" that Ferrie had committed, a young man who had left New Orleans "and subsequently joined the U.S. Marine Corps."(183) Martin stated that when he heard on television that Oswald had been a Marine, he began to suspect that he was the young man Ferrie had referred to.(184) Martin cautioneel, however that this might have only been a coincidence. (185) Martin further told the FBI of Ferrie's past history of homosexual arrests, (186) stating that "Ferrie is a competely disreputable person, a notorious sex deviate with a brillant mind. (187) Further, Martin "suspected him of being capable of committing any type crime." (188) Martin had concluded by stating
 * * that he felt that Ferrie's possible association with Lee Oswald should be the subject of close examination as he personally believed that he could be implicated in the killing of President John F. Kennedy.
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David William Ferrie reinterviewed today and advised at time of Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba he was very much embarrassed and concerned over lack of air cover provided and severely criticized President Kennedy, both in public and private. Ferrie stated he has never made any statement that President Kennedy should be killed with any intention to do so and has never at any time outlined any plan or made any statement how this could be done or who should do it. Ferrie said he is very outspoken and may have used an offhand or colloquial expression,"He ought to be shot" in expressing his feelings concerning Cuban situation *** Ferrie said he has also been critical of any President riding in open car and has stated anyone could hide in the bushes and shoot a President.(211
She said Ferrie was a magnetic and intelligent man who had a strong following among the cadets. (307) He also had a reputation for having bad moral character, and on one occasion some CAP cadets had become drunk at his home and engaged in various activities in the nude. (308) Mrs. Durr stated that such incidents were what led to Ferrie being expelled from that particular CAP unit. (309)

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