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Question for Bertie and Other DPF Researchers; Why didn't William Buckley et al, kill Mark Lane?

on Mon 14 Jul 2014, 8:39 pm
Does not your logic dictate, considering your opinions of alleged extreme measures taken to forever silence Ralph Yates and Mary Meyer, that it is an amazing contradiction that Buckley, et al, permitted Mark Lane to leave the broadcast studio intact in December, 1966?

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Perspectives of a CIA operative in Vietnam

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Putney Westerfield will speak about being a CIA Operative in Vietnam: historical perspectives, selected case studies, economic resurgence.  In addition, he will speak about living and working in Saigon with a family in the 1950s.
Putney Westerfield has made six trips back to Vietnam, starting in 1988.  He is also the co-founder of East Meets West Foundation, which is now the largest NGO in Vietnam.
Putney Westerfield grew up on the Yale campus.  His father was an Economics Professor for 42 years — especially Investment and Commercial Banking.  His mother came down from Wellesley for a Yale PhD in the Classics - and became an inspiring teacher.  Brother Bradford Westerfield taught American Foreign Policy at Yale for 44 years (1957 - 2001 and was often voted Yale’s most popular professor by the students.)  
Professor Westerfield also launched the nation’s first university course on the Role of Intelligence in World Affairs – nicknamed “Spies and Lies” -- He used to say he was inspired by the activities of his younger brother, Putney.
Graduating in 1951, Putney chose the CIA over the military options.  After assignments in Southeast Asia and Korea, he arrived in Saigon in early 1955.
He resigned in late 1957 and joined TIME Inc, serving successively as Associate Publisher of TIME, then LIFE and finally as Publisher of FORTUNE.   Later, he was President of Chase World Information Corporation, a Chase Manhattan subsidiary, before being named CEO of Boyden Global Search, an executive search firm with 70 offices around the world.
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The Bridgeport Post  10 March 1973 » Page 5
His roommate at Ya!«, and rlier at Choate, remembers m as a "born leader of meJv" Greenwich Resident Putney Westerfietd of Grwn- ich, Conn.,". now'publisher of ortune magazine, said In An ten-Jew Friday he was l es- ctically happy" at John's lw- endihg release. "It's been" "a ng 20 years," he said. ' " WesterMeld said there wasn't nythln* unusual in John's erf- ering the CIA. * r "When we were coming 6Ut f college, the Korean War just ad started," he said. "A larg* umber of college graduates hat particular year went'Into nteIHgcnce activity." ' : "·' Westerfield said John was a born leader of men, president f the class at school (Choate)* great athlete. He was a good English' scholar and a writef. le loved literature. ~' 'Modest, Self-El feeing' /. He .was very modest, self- effacing, with a good sense ol lumen'," said Westerfield, add- nj that John, a Roman Catho- lc, had a "great religious ailh." . ' . , r [ think friends who knew him knew that if .anyone coultf : through 20 years, it was him," said Westerfield, "I can't think of any man better equipped to live through those years." The qualities that kept John'* spirits .high during periods ot solitary confinement, Westerflel(i said, were "inner composure and physical conditioning." "He had. an inability to bV angry at anyone," Westerfield said. "He just couldn't get angry at any situation." J9hn won letters at Yale lh track, wrestling and football. held a National ...

The Washington Post - Weiseberg Archive

Did Thomas B. Ross keep his investigations and his authorship at arm's length, or.....?

Thomas Bernard Ross (1929-2002) was a journallist, best-selling author of books on military itelligence and a spokesman for President Carter and adviser to President Clinton.
Ross was a 1951 graduate of Yale University (where he was a member of the secret society Skull & Bones), and a 1964 Harvard University Nieman fellow. He served in the U.S. Navy during the Korean War.
International News Service and the United Press International 1958 Washington Bureau of Chicago Sun-times 1960, Washington bureau chief for The Chicago Sun-Times62. In 1962, Ross co-authored with David Wise U-2 Affair a book describing the downing of a United States spy plane over Russian territory. See 1960 U-2 incident. - government officials claimed it was a weather plane but Russia later produced the pilot, Francis Gary Powers. 1964 co-authored The Invisible Government, explaining the role of intelligence agencies in diplomac 1967 co-authored Ross The Espionage Establishment
c 1958-1977 Mr. Ross worked for The Chicago Sun-Times 1977-1981 assistant secretary of defense for public affairs, a position he held until 1981 1981 communications director for the Celanese Corporation in New York City Later senior vice president of RCA, NBC and the Hill & Knowlton public relations firm In April 1994, President Clinton appointed Ross as Special Assistant to the President, Senior Director for Public Affairs at the National Security Council and Deputy White House Press Secretary. x-2002 vice president for government relations of Loral Space and Communications....
David Wise (born 1930) is an American journalist and author.....
....Wise joined the New York Herald-Tribune in 1951, and became the paper's White House correspondent in 1960. He was chief of the paper's Washington bureau from 1963 to 1966.[2] In 1970-71 he was a Fellow of the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in Washington, D.C., and in 1977-79, he lectured in political science at the University of California at Santa Barbara.[2] He was later a commentator on intelligence issues for CNN for six years.[2]
Beginning in 1962 with an examination of the Lockheed U-2, Wise published a series of non-fiction books (the first three with Thomas B. Ross). Their book Invisible Government (1964), exposed the role of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in foreign policy.....
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 07:16:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Interrupted Mission
From: (Anonymous)

The Washington Post, Wednesday, 24 June 1998, Page A17
An Interrupted Mission
By Donald P. Gregg

At dawn on Nov. 29, 1952, an unmarked CIA transport plane clawed its
way into a gray and hostile sky. Taking off from a base in Korea, the
aircraft was on a mission to drop supplies to a team of Chinese
agents in Manchuria who had radioed for help, saying that they had
lost most of their food when they had been parachuted into hostile
territory a few days earlier.

Aboard the rescue plane were Jack Downey and Dick Fecteau. They were
helping to run a CIA agent-infiltration program, designed to report
on the flow of Chinese Communist men and material into the Korean
peninsula, where furious fighting still raged along what later became
the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) separating North and South Korea.

The mission was doomed from the outset. The agent team had been
captured by the Chinese and forced to send the SOS message. The drop
zone was ringed by Chinese antiaircraft guns, and the plane was
quickly shot down. The American pilots were killed, but Downey and
Fecteau survived the crash and struggled free from the wreckage, to
be tried and convicted by the Chinese for espionage. Downey, judged
by the Chinese to be the senior survivor, was sentenced to life
imprisonment. He was 22 years old, 18 months out of Yale. Fecteau,
newly arrived from the United States, received a 20-year sentence.

I did not know Fecteau at all, but I knew Downey well, having gone
through a six-month paramilitary training program with him. He was
one of the most popular and respected members of our 40-man group.
Another CIA colleague and I had dinner with Downey the night before
his ill-fated mission.
We both remember his excitement and enthusiasm
about what lay ahead. For the next 20 years, as my life progressed
normally, I thought often of Downey and Fecteau, trapped like flies
in amber......

Donald P. Gregg avoided details and created the false impression Downey went down during a rescue

Extraordinary Fidelity
Nicholas Dujmovic

Even though Downey and Fecteau were welcomed back as heroes by the CIA family more than 30 years ago and their story has been covered in open literature—albeit in short and generally flawed accounts— institutional memory regarding these brave officers has dimmed.[1] Their ordeal is not well known among today’s officers, judging by the surprise and wonder CIA historians encounter when relating it in internal lectures and training courses.
This story is important as a part of US intelligence history because it demonstrates the risks of operations (and the consequences of operational error), the qualities of character necessary to endure hardship, and the potential damage to reputations through the persistence of false stories about past events. Above all, the saga of John Downey and Richard Fecteau is about remarkable faithfulness, shown not only by the men who were deprived of their freedom, but also by an Agency that never gave up hope. While it was through operational misjudgments that these two spent much of their adulthood in Chinese prisons, the Agency, at least in part, redeemed itself through its later care for the men from whom years had been stolen.
The Operational Context
John Downey and Richard Fecteau were youthful CIA paramilitary officers: Downey, born in Connecticut, had entered CIA in June 1951, after graduating from Yale; Fecteau, from Massachusetts, entered on duty a few months later, having graduated from Boston University. Both men had been varsity football players, and both were outgoing and engaging with noted senses of humor. They were on their first overseas assignment when the shootdown occurred.
By late 1952, the Korean War had been going on for more than two years. Accounts often identify that war as the reason for the operation Downey and Fecteau were participating in. While largely true, the flight the men were on was part of operations that had antecedents in the US response to the communist takeover of China in 1949. In accordance with US policies, CIA took steps to exploit the potential for a Chinese “Third Force” by trying to link Chinese agents, trained by CIA, with alleged dissident generals on the mainland. This Third Force, while anticommunist, would be separate from the Nationalists, who were assessed to be largely discredited on the mainland.[2]
This Third Force project received new emphasis after the Communist Chinese intervened in the Korean War. At that point, the project aimed to divert Chinese resources from the war in Korea by promoting domestic antigovernment guerrilla operations. This was to be accomplished by small teams of Chinese agents, generally inserted through airdrops, who were to link up with local guerrilla forces, collect intelligence and possibly engage in sabotage and psychological warfare, and report back by radio.[3] The operational model was the OSS experience in Europe during World War II, which assumed a cooperative captive population—a situation, as it turned out, that did not prevail in China.
By the time of Downey and Fecteau’s involvement in the Third Force program, its record was short and inauspicious. Because of resource constraints, the training of Chinese agents at CIA facilities in Asia was delayed, and the first Third Force team to be airdropped did not deploy until April 1952. This fourman team parachuted into southern China and was never heard from again.
The second Third Force team comprised five ethnic Chinese dropped into the Jilin region of Manchuria in midJuly 1952. Downey was well known to the Chinese operatives on this team because he had trained them. The team quickly established radio contact with Downey’s CIA unit outside of China and was resupplied by air in August and October. A sixth team member, intended as a courier between the team and the controlling CIA unit, was dropped in September. In early November, the team reported contact with a local dissident leader and said it had obtained needed operational documents such as official credentials. They requested airexfiltration of the courier, a method he had trained for but that the CIA had never attempted operationally.
At that time, the technique for aerial pickup involved flying an aircraft at low altitude and hooking a line elevated between two poles. The line was connected to a harness in which the agent was strapped. Once airborne, the man was to be winched into the aircraft. This technique required specialized training, both for the pilots of the aircraft, provided by the CIA’s proprietary Civil Air Transport (CAT), and for the two men who would operate the winch. Pilots Norman Schwartz and Robert Snoddy had trained in the aerial pickup technique during the fall of 1952 and were willing to undertake the mission. On 20 November, Downey’s CIA unit radioed back to the team: “Will air snatch approximately 2400 hours” on 29 November.[4]
Illustration of snatch pickup, from 1944 US Army Air Forces manual.
 The question of who would operate the winch, however, was still unresolved. Originally, Chinese crewmen were to be used, but Downey’s unit chief decided that time was too short to fully train them. Instead, two CAT personnel trained in the procedure were identified for the pickup flight, but the CIA unit chief pulled them four days before the mission because they lacked the requisite clearances. Downey, who had been at the unit for about a year, and Fecteau, who had arrived in the first week of November, were directed to fill the breach. They were hurriedly trained in the procedure during the week of 24 November.
Late on 29 November, Downey and Fecteau boarded Schwartz and Snoddy’s olive drab C47 on an airfield on the Korean peninsula and took off for the rendezvous point in Chinese Communist Manchuria, some 400 miles away. It was a quiet, uneventful flight of less than three hours. The moon was nearly full and visibility was excellent. At one point, Fecteau opened a survival kit and noted that the .32caliber pistol therein had no ammunition—joking about that was the only conversation the men had on the flight....


Taylor's Legislative History and Souvenir of Connecticut, ...
William Harrison Taylor - 1908 - ‎Connecticut
The Meriden Daily Journal - 22 October, 1938
County Lawyers to Attend Judge Downey's Funeral
Polo I Briefing Book Kissinger's Secret Trip to China July 1971 - page 93,2747081
21 September, 1972
Edward J. Downey Marks 99th Year
(More genealogical Info )
If the Downey family info makes me look obsessive, I went to such lengths because my great-grandmother believed there was a first cousin link between her generation and John T. Downey's great-grand parent. I want to avoid being more specific. My great-grandmother died before John T. Downey's father, so she passed this information along because of the emergence of entertainer Morton Downey. His relation to John T. Downey is described in the funeral article above,

[url= TOCs/Gregg, Donald P.toc.pdf]Gregg, Donald P. - Association for Diplomatic Studies and ...[/url],%20Donald%20P.toc.pdf
Foreign Affairs Oral History Project. AMBASSADOR DONALD P. GREGG. Interviewed by: Charles Stuart Kennedy. Initial interview date: March 3, 2004.
page 3 -

Q: How did you go to school?

GREGG: I was taught to read at home. In those days that is about all you needed to have

done. I went in the army at age 17 in 1945 right out of high school, and later went to

Williams College.

Q: In the army where did you serve?

GREGG: I was trained as a crypt-analyst and didn’t get overseas. I had enlisted for 18

months and they didn’t have enough time to send me overseas. So I entered Williams in

the fall of ’47, majored in philosophy, graduated in 1951. I had been signed up by CIA

(Central Intelligence Agency) at that time.

[Portion of interview missing because the recording is too low to be able to transcribe]

GREGG: …I got in because NSA you know the army having spent a lot of money

training me as a crypt-analyst, and the interview was [inaudible] that I was not at all

interested, [inaudible] the CIA. I said, “What is CIA?” He said, “Oh they jump out of

airplanes and save the world.” I said, “Sign me up.”

page 4 -

Q: Did you go with Bob Dylan and all that stuff?

GREGG: No I was a very close friend of Jack Downey’s. He was shot down in front of

me some 20 years before.

Most readers are familiar with William F. Buckley's alleged short CIA career. Supposedly he reported for a time to E. Howard Hunt in Mexico City. Donald P. Gregg of Iran-Contra infamy, claims he first met George HW Bush for the first time after Bush was appointed by Ford as DCI in 1976.
More work needs to be done to determine whether Time-Life employed enough intelligence operatives to be classified as a private intelligence and propaganda subcontrator to the U.S. government instead of what it claimedd it was, a magazine and book publisher and an employer of journalists engaged in news gathering and distribution.
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Re: Question for Bertie and Other DPF Researchers; Why didn't William Buckley et al, kill Mark Lane?

on Tue 15 Jul 2014, 6:52 am
A Mockingbird by any other name never sounded so off-key, like Downey's "Boulevard of Broken Dreams".  Nice post, Tom.  Thank you for digging this up and presenting it here.
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Re: Question for Bertie and Other DPF Researchers; Why didn't William Buckley et al, kill Mark Lane?

on Tue 15 Jul 2014, 9:37 am
Tom Scully wrote:Does not your logic dictate, considering your opinions of alleged extreme measures taken to forever silence Ralph Yates and Mary Meyer, that it is an amazing contradiction that Buckley, et al, permitted Mark Lane to leave the broadcast studio intact in December, 1966?

Perhaps Mark Lane was allowed to live because he was also working for the CIA.

How better to direct and control the opposition than to own the standard bearer around which every CT would gather?
There have been some comments that show others are tending toward this view.

see: thread started by the ROKC Colonel.

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