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Anatomy Of A Second Floor Lunchroom Encounter

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Re: Anatomy Of A Second Floor Lunchroom Encounter

Post by greg parker on Sun 16 Apr 2017, 11:39 pm

steely wrote:Congratulations Barto. Well deserved and you have the added bonus of pissing off all the right people  
This could get ugly. 

He's taking no prisoners. his flip flops are fully loaded and he is not afraid to use them.

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Re: Anatomy Of A Second Floor Lunchroom Encounter

Post by barto on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 8:47 am

On BOR tonight!!!

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Re: Anatomy Of A Second Floor Lunchroom Encounter

Post by barto on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 4:32 pm

http://www.blackopradio.com/pod/black831a.mp3

[*][url=http://www.prayer-man.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Anatomy of the second floor lunch room encounter.pdf]Anatomy of the Second Floor Lunch Room Encounter[/url]
[*]Winner of the Mary Ferrell & JFK Lancer New Frontier Award Nov. 2016
[*]Bart saw a BBC documentary when he was 11, he was fascinated by the whole mystery
[*]The first internet search Bart made was for Fletcher Prouty
[*]He started focusing more, going deeper, he spent a year in Harold Weisberg's [url=http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg Subject Index Files/]archives[/url]
[*]His first project's scope was too wide, he focused in on the TSBD, a brilliant maze
[*]There is a lot of contradiction, Prayer Man, Bill Kelly's thread
[*]The Lunch Room Encounter, where was Oswald?
[*]reopenkennedycase.orgprayer-man.comdealeyplazauk.org.uk
[*]Dealey Plaza UK 2017 [url=http://dealeyplazauk.org.uk/pdfArticles/DPUK 2017 Seminar Programme.pdf]Seminar[/url], Canterbury, Christchurch University April 29-30
[*]The truth is not in the Warren Report, a picture is painted
[*]Baker's initial statement doesn't refer to the lunch room or the second floor
[*]Baker's FBI statement, the Warren Report was already printed
[*]Newspapers contradict the official story
[*]Bart leans towards, Roger Craig's observation, Oswald and the Nash Rambler
[*]Oswald was on the first floor, not on the sixth, not on the second either
[*]Bart has written 18 chapters over 177 pages
[*]Links, pictures, documents, floor plans
[*]Motorcycle policeman Marion Baker and TSBD Superintendent Roy Truly
[*]Baker did not dash into the building, he stood in front
[*]In 1964 Roy Truly stated he talked to Howard Brennan
[*]The Blacks (employees/witnesses) were treated really bad and they were scared
[*]Eddie Piper, Troy West, discrepancies in their statements, Charles Givens
[*]The actual encounter, look at the pictures, imagine Baker and Truly
[*]The Secret Service, a lot of stories were invented
[*]The Oswald Affair: (Sauvage 1966)
       An Examination of the Contradictions and Omissions of the Warren Report

[*]Truly, "Baker was ahead of me," not between a policeman and a gunman
[*]Seeing somebody behind that tiny little window of that closed door
[*]Truly's testimony just rattles, he corners himself
[*]The evolving up and down story of the Coke
[*]Oswald walks through the office, down the steps, out the building
[*]He allegedly encounters Mrs. Robert Reid, Geneva Hine contradicts her
[*]Was Oswald Encountered Somewhere Else? The most important chapter
[*]Oswald was stopped, but, he was stopped on the first floor
[*]The TSBD had a class divide, laborers, office workers
[*]Bart covers Oswald's interrogations, what did he say?
[*]His legal rights were trampled on
[*]The re-enactment didn't add up
[*]Excerpts of this article at kennedysandking.com

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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 7:17 pm

Liked how Len kept on point.
Showed his knowledge and interest in your material
As well as great plugs for us ROKC'rs
Good job Bart!
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Re: Anatomy Of A Second Floor Lunchroom Encounter

Post by barto on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 7:57 pm

Thanks Ed and my pleasure.
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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 9:16 pm

....and for reference here is a picture of Marion Baker

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Re: Anatomy Of A Second Floor Lunchroom Encounter

Post by Jake Sykes on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 9:20 pm

Nice to hear new and vital research being discussed on Blackopradio. Great job Barto. People need to know that you have compiled all of this information and that there is a lot of it. Also that it amounts to a train wreck for the WC.

For 50 plus years CT's have been locked into the 2nd floor as a valid event. It was always a bridge too far to say otherwise since it involved testing the testimonies of a handful of people. Yet you have shown that their statements do indeed have serious issues with the ways they evolved over time and with the contemporaneous news reporting from a variety of news sources. 

One of the best shows ever. Congratulations to you and to Len.
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Post by Mick Purdy on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 12:44 pm

Nicely done Barto,

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Re: Anatomy Of A Second Floor Lunchroom Encounter

Post by barto on Tue 25 Apr 2017, 3:39 am

Thank you Jake and Mick, much appreciated feedback!!!
Overall it has been extremely positive, well worth the effort Smile

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Post by beowulf Today at 3:47 am

Great interview Barto. You made a point that Truly had spoken with Brennan (the construction worker outside). Since Brennan was standing out front a while-- at least until Sorrels showed up-- couldn't Truly have gone inside quickly (with or without Baker) and talked to Brennan after he went back outside?

I'm still skeptical that Baker didn't go right in, Peggy Hawkins statement (or rather the FBI agent's paraphrasing of her statement) that there was a motorcycle officer in front of TSBD could as easily mean an officer runnning as it could be mean an officer standing (and his radio speaker would still be blaring even after he was gone). In fact she might have simply told FBI agent there was a police motorcycle in front of TSBD and he took that to mean (perhaps mistakenly) that the motorcycle policeman himself was in front of building. It's a pity that to this day, FBI prefer not to record interviews.

However, assuming you're right and Baker didn't enter the building right away. I can think of one possible reason that he'd lie and aver that he had entered TSBD, encountered Oswald (or the real shooter) and let him go-- to take one for the team and protect the reputation of a senior Dallas cop who'd done just that. As Sean Murphy suggested, perhaps it was Captain Sawyer who dropped the ball.
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