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Wed 02 Nov 2016, 11:35 pm
You may be familiar with the fact that Raymond Franklin Krystinik (to whom I will refer to as Frankie from here on) was a co-worker of Michael Paine at Bell Helicopter. In fact, Frankie told the FBI that he and Mike are “good friends.”


http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10407#relPageId=192&tab=page

You may also be familiar with the fact that Frankie told the Warren Commission he served in the U. S. Navy (ONI anyone?); and that he attended a meeting of the American Civil Liberties Union with Oswald and Mike Paine in late October, 1963. This is something which Greg Parker exposed as being a load of garbage a while ago. In fact, Greg discovered that it was probably Ruth Paine who went with Oswald to a meeting of the ACLU:


http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=6397&page=4

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=3496

In the above link to Frankie’s interview with the FBI, we can see he told the FBI that during the ACLU meeting Oswald “emphatically” stated that General Edwin Walker was both anti-Semitic and anti-Catholic. Frankie repeated this claim during his WC testimony:


http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=43&search=Mr_Krystinik+Semitic+in+regards+to#relPageId=471&tab=page

We all know that Oswald was accused of taking a shot at Walker back in April, 1963. In my two part essay “Who was behind the assassination?” I discussed the likelihood that some of those involved in the assassination wanted to leave the public with the impression that Jews were behind the assassination. I have also discussed elsewhere that Lt. George Butler and reserve captain Charles Oliver Arnett from the DPD (both of whom we have good reason to believe were involved in the plot to kill Oswald in the basement of the DPD) claimed they had information that Oswald was the illegitimate son of the Jewish Jack Ruby.


I believe Frankie made the aforementioned comments about Oswald and Edwin Walker to not only reinforce the belief that Oswald took a shot at walker; but that he (Oswald) was a Jew lover. What’s also interesting is that Frankie told the FBI that shortly after the ACLU meeting, he and his wife went to (of all places) the Carousel Club; which of course was owned by the so-called illegitimate Jewish father of Oswald. Now isn’t that just a bit coincidental? Although I can’t prove it, I’d be willing to bet my undies that Frankie was subtly trying to leave the FBI with the impression that it was Oswald who suggested to him that he go to the Carousel club and that he (Oswald) was acquainted with Ruby.


Other things of interest to me is that Frankie told the FBI that Oswald allegedly said to him at the ACLU meeting that he was a Marxist; and that he also said to him “All right, if you want to call me [a Communist], that is what I am, I am a Communist.” Frankie vouched for Mike Paine’s honesty when he testified before the WC; stating that he would “almost stake” his reputation on Paine’s “apparent honesty.” Frankie also told the FBI that after he and Paine learned that the shots had been fired from near the TSBD; Paine said to him that Oswald “doesn’t even own a gun.” I think Frankie merely said this to give the FBI the impression that Paine was not involved in framing Oswald for the assassination.


http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10819#relPageId=2&tab=page


Anyway, that’s my take on Frankie. If he’s still alive, I think he has a lot of explaining to do.
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A wrist length ho Lyons; and aunt and uncle ered veil fell from -the ringlet. | ^ ^ Mrg Sban iey Polanski of Carries Prayer Book ve bride carried a bouquet of •hite Camillas with split carna- >n> a white prayer book, iking the altar were arange- of gladioli and stock, and arrangements of palms. bride's maid-df-honor was vtary Helen Schoppe otf Lyons. y •- • '-< Women of th e Church of the Immanuel Presbyterian Church Caldwell. 'ore an irridescent, green taf- ress of waltz length. , man was the bridegroom s •r, John Richard Krystinik. boys were George Donovan . J. Kahler. James Loden and t Rodriquez, ibcrth stationed at ival Air Station, were ushers, in music for the wedding was ed by Mrs. Eilene Nasky. to the traditional wedding from "Lohengrin" by War- Irs. Nasky played "Andante ethoven and "Rosonarin' by Sreisler. Immanuel Women Hold Circle Meets )TOMART FOTOMART IMERASHOP 113-A EAST MAIN IUBLE YOUR ONEY BACK ir Sanltono Dry Cleaning the Best In Tow*! 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Blaine will again instruct an art class at 7 p.m. Tuesday in the Grand Prairie Community House. if The Wesleyon Service Guild of the First Methodist Church will meet at 7:30 p.m. Tuesday in the home of Mrs. W. D. Baker, 714 Dai- worth Street. Guest spanker will be Critz Jarvis of the Oaklawn Methodist Church. if The Grand Prairie Senior High School Parent-Teachers Association will meet at 7:30 p.m. Tuesday in the auditorium. Wednesday Kiwanis Club members will assemble Wednesday noon in the Lennox Hotel. if Members of the Hensley Field Officers Wives Club will meet tt 12:30 p.m. Wednesday in the field club house. if Dan Aoki, Japanese student at Southern Methodist University, will discuss, "The Authentic Japanese Arrangements," at 2 p.m. Wednesday in the First National Bank Room at a Grand Prairie Garden Club meeting. The Grand Prairie Square Dance Club will meet at 8 p.m. Wednesday in the Avion Community House. Thursday if The Rev. R. N. Benton, pastor of the First Presbyterian Church, will discuss "Is This a Time for Conflict," Thursday at the Houston at Mrs. Jack Venable Brownie Hostess At Pafty Saturday The home of Mfcs. Jack Venable, 806 Cherokee Street, was the Saturday afternoon scene of a Valentine party for Brownie Troop, 511 with Mrs. flat Riggins as co-hostess. Valentines were exchanged aftd games played. Wanda Keasler and Jo Anna Mitchell won a heart shaped box of candy each as prizes. Refreshments were served to Jackie Martin, Cheryll Burkett, two new members; Betty Jane Venable, Patricia Riggins, Mary Ann Mason, Wanda Keasler, Melvin Rogers, Donna Willlngham, Sheila Guliam, Sue Henry, Barbara Hill, Jacqueline Lane, and Jo Anna Mitchell, a guest. Mrs. E. G. Smith Elected President Of 1SCW Alumnae Mrs. E. Carlyle Smith was elected president of the Texas State College for Women alumnae in the Grand Prairie area at an annual Listening Day tea Saturday in the home of Mrs W. L. Collp, 330 Nortihwest Second Street, with Mrs. Joe Pierce and Mrs. W. H. Blue as co-hostesses. Other officers elected to serve two-year terms included, Miss Mary Louise Thaxton, vice-president; Mrs. Lt. Col. Herbert Kosub, 1818 Willow Street, plans to leave Grand Prairie Saturday to report to the Warner Robbins Base, located 19 miles from Macon, Georgia. Mrs. Kosub and son, Tommy, will meet him the following week end. Presbyterian Church will meet at 10 a.m. Thursday in the home of Mrs. G. T. Brown, 217 Southeast Second Street. if Mrs. Leslie Rains, 605 Couch Circle, will be hostess to members of the Twentieth Century Club at 2:30 p.m. Thursday. if Toastmistress' Club will meet at 7:30 p.m. Thursday in the Avion Community House. if Members of the Happy Hour Club will meet at 7:30 p.m. Thursday in the home of Mrs. Clarence Milam, 1104 Small Street. if The Past Noble Grand Sunshine Club will meet at 7:30 p.m MBS. RAYMOND FRANKLIN KRYSTINIK Prairie Headliner Mrs. G. L. 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Thu 03 Nov 2016, 9:53 am
1954 Frankie was at the Naval Air Station .. groom is air controlman third-class,stationed at NAS .
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Thu 03 Nov 2016, 10:13 am
Brother's wedding 1972,

The bridegroom was attended by Frank Krystinik of Arlington, best man; Lee Krystinik of Arlington, groomsman, and Thomas Colaw of Dallas and Steve Garner of Arlington
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Thu 03 Nov 2016, 12:24 pm
Ed. Ledoux wrote:1954 Frankie was at the Naval Air Station .. groom is air controlman third-class,stationed at NAS .
From Air Traffic Controlman in the Navy to research engineer for Bell in 6 years - possibly working under certain German scientists?

And speaking of his Navy career - if he was correct in remembering he joined in 1952, then he is yet anther who got an early out.

From his testimony

...school and grade school, and from Fredericksburg to Grand Prairie, Tex. I went to high school in Grand Prairie, Tex. Graduated in 1950. I went to work for Chance Vought Aircraft Aviation from high school. Went into the Navy in 1952, I believe. I don't remember exactly. I have to look it up. I was married in 1954. Got out of the Navy in August of 1954. Started to school at Arlington State College in September of 1954, and I graduated from Arlington State in June of 1956. Went to Texas A&M, I think starting in January of 1957. I graduated from Texas A&M in June of 1960. On June 6, I went to work for Bell Helicopter. These are just approximate dates. I think they are just about right, but I am not right sure. If you need it, I can give you the exact dates.
Mr. LIEBELER. This is all right. What kind of work do you do for Bell Helicopter?
Mr. KRYSTINIK. I am a research engineer. I work in the research group.

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Thu 03 Nov 2016, 1:55 pm
I smell intelligence.

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Thu 03 Nov 2016, 3:24 pm
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Thu 03 Nov 2016, 5:25 pm
Started to school at Arlington State College in September of 1954, and I graduated from Arlington State in June of 1956. Went to Texas A&M, I think starting in January of 1957. I graduated from Texas A&M in June of 1960.


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Thu 03 Nov 2016, 5:55 pm
I don't know the dude, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that fella on the far right, 2nd row (two up from Krystinik) is a real putz.

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Thu 03 Nov 2016, 11:39 pm
Good stuff, Ed. I think it's worth a reminder that before he became SECNAV, good ole Fred Korth was a director of the Bell Aerospace Corporation. I would also like to point out that although I don't believe Krystinik was necessarily involved in the assassination, I stand behind my belief that (post assassination) he wanted to make Oswald look like a Jew lover and a Communist; and that he wanted to leave the FBI with the subtle impression that Oswald and Jack Ruby were connected.
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Fri 04 Nov 2016, 11:39 pm
I think it is also worth considering that from the time he became SECNAV and even after the assassination, Korth may have held shares in the Bell Aerospace Corporation. We know that after his good mate LBJ became President, he reversed JFK's decision to withdraw advisors from Vietnam and escalated the war; which resulted in Bell Helicopter making a shit load of money.
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Sat 05 Nov 2016, 2:15 am
Could it be this one.

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Sun 06 Nov 2016, 11:38 pm
I’m really fascinated by the Nazi connection to the Bell Aerospace Corporation:


http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=146385&search=Walter_Dornberger#relPageId=15&tab=page

“Along with other German rocket scientists, [Walter] Dornberger was released and brought to the United States under the auspices of Operation Paperclip, and worked for the United States Air Force for three years developing guided missiles. From 1950 to 1965 he worked for the Bell Aircraft Corporation where he worked on several projects, rising to the post of Vice-President.”


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Dornberger

I wonder if the following is true (wouldn’t surprise me one bit if it is):


“The very first call to authorities after the gun went off on November 22, 1963, was from an employee at Bell Helicopter who suggested ‘Oswald did it.’”



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Sat 12 Nov 2016, 11:38 pm
Fred Korth, Nazi, and Ling-Temco-Vought connection:


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“In 1961 [David Harold] Byrd joined forces with James J. Ling and Chance Vought Corporation to form Ling-Temco-Vought (LTV).”


http://spartacus-educational.com/MDbyrdDH.htm


How convenient that at the time of the assassination, Byrd was in Africa on a Safari. Note also that David Ferrie (a former member of Byrd’s Civil Air Patrol) was believed to be at the “meeting.”
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Sat 12 Nov 2016, 11:47 pm
“Byrd prepared well for the trip: Temco, Inc. was an aircraft company founded by D.H. Byrd and which later merged with his friend James Ling's electronics company (1960), and aircraft manufacturer Chance Vought Corporation (1961) to form Ling-Temco-Vought (LTV). Byrd became a director of LTV and bought, along with Ling, 132,000 shares of LTV in November 1963. Byrd then left the country to go on his two-month safari in central Africa.”



http://jfkcountercoup2.blogspot.com.au/2015/04/d-harold-byrd.html
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Mon 14 Nov 2016, 6:14 pm
Conveniently out of all contact except a Congolese spiritualist whom sensed a disturbance in the force.

Byrd was helping his pals to go ahead and stage anything they wanted and he can claim ignorance or safariance.

Krystaldick is a punk whom tried to throw dirt Lee's way. We know his type, kinda like a Doyle.
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