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Post by greg parker on Wed 15 Mar 2017, 2:28 pm

Albert Brian Ralph Yates-Doyle, Man-About-Town-and Renowned Hendrix Assassination Expert & Grace Slick Stalker wrote:If you want a good lesson in linguistic forensics listen to Bart Kamp after 1:04 when he interjects several "umm"'s. Overt umming is a sign of knowing what one is saying is dubious. These are the people the community has allowed to hijack the JFK assassination research world. The Albert Doyle scoff is around 1:06 -

 So, there are these, uh, psychologists who believe that um, I mean, they're trying to prove that those little stops and starts that are, you know, used in conversational speech are, like, legitimate words.


Herbert Clark of Stanford University and Jean Fox Tree of the University of California at Santa Cruz have spent years listening to recordings of spontaneous conversations and speech to analyze the role of "ums" and "uhs" in language.


And unlike previous linguists, they've concluded these so-called disfluencies and discourse markers represent something more than clumsy speakers having trouble expressing themselves — they also serve a role for listeners.


Conversation Managers


"People use these phrases in a very particular, deliberate way," says Clark. "If we anticipate a delay in our speech, we choose the appropriate sound to signal this to the listener. These phrases mean 'I need to make sure you realize I'm delaying because I'm having trouble.'"
By signaling a delay is coming, a speaker avoids a silent gap in conversation that might otherwise prove confusing to a listener.


"When we talk, we have to do two things," says Clark. "We have to pay attention to the content of what we're saying and also keep track of the interaction of two people talking."
Phrases like "um" and "uh" and "you know" play an important role in language, he argues, by serving as a speaker's "conversation managers" in the human interaction aspect of conversation.


http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=97983&page=1

Now I just know that Albert is going to jump onto  'I need to make sure you realize I'm delaying because I'm having trouble.



But "having trouble" does not necessarily equal "I know what I am saying is dubious". There are all sorts of reasons people have difficulty finishing a thought in conversation, including, but far from limited to, a sudden distraction, lack of sleep, getting yourself side-tracked... and English being a second language. That last, at the very least, is true in this case. 

Albert Brian Ralph Yates-Doyle, do you get up yourself every morning? Just curious....

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Post by Paul Francisco Paso on Wed 15 Mar 2017, 5:29 pm

Umm Albert Brian Yates Doyle is umm how do you say it... a fucking imbecile.
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Post by barto on Thu 16 Mar 2017, 5:58 pm

LMFAO

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Post by Stan Dane on Tue 21 Mar 2017, 2:33 am

A forum's gotta have standards, dammit.

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