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- Ed.Ledoux
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Jersey
Fri 28 Apr 2017, 10:21 am
First topic message reminder :
Anyone a member of "Jersey Heritage" ?
http://catalogue.jerseyheritage.org/collection/Details/archive/110058280?rank=
I would like to see the registration card for Peggy Joyce Hawkins Jan 9 1941
Cheers, Ed
Anyone a member of "Jersey Heritage" ?
http://catalogue.jerseyheritage.org/collection/Details/archive/110058280?rank=
I would like to see the registration card for Peggy Joyce Hawkins Jan 9 1941
Cheers, Ed
Re: Jersey
Sat 06 May 2017, 11:50 pm
- Ed.Ledoux
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Re: Jersey
Sun 07 May 2017, 7:01 am
Note:
John Henry Hawkins is not related to the other two Hawkins from Dallas.
John Henry Hawkins is not related to the other two Hawkins from Dallas.
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Re: Jersey
Sun 07 May 2017, 9:30 am
Bart that picture is after he picked up Euins down at the end of Elm Extension
Way way later.
She would be inside.
Dont get stuck on outside and steps.
She had to go around a motorcycle
She had to go around it to go up the extension.
She didnt trip over it to get into the building, she went around it to make her way to the steps
Does not mean it was directly in front of steps
Mearly on the Elm Street Extension in front of the building, which runs from the corner of Houston down to its annex by the pergola. So in front is a broader term than you are allowing.
It makes sense it would be Harkness.
He was parked down Elm Ext.
He talked to those down by the fence, talked to Euins, took Euins back to the spot we see his trike in the image you provided.
But that was not till 12:36
Peggy would of walked from behind wall toward TSBD
She would have to walk out around the motorbike and people packing the sidewalk.
It does add up.
She is not around Elm Street when we see Weigman and Couch filming, and she did not walk up Elm Street, she did not go by Bakers bike.
What other motorcycle radio is there?
Cheers, Ed
Way way later.
She would be inside.
Dont get stuck on outside and steps.
She had to go around a motorcycle
She had to go around it to go up the extension.
She didnt trip over it to get into the building, she went around it to make her way to the steps
Does not mean it was directly in front of steps
Mearly on the Elm Street Extension in front of the building, which runs from the corner of Houston down to its annex by the pergola. So in front is a broader term than you are allowing.
It makes sense it would be Harkness.
He was parked down Elm Ext.
He talked to those down by the fence, talked to Euins, took Euins back to the spot we see his trike in the image you provided.
But that was not till 12:36
Peggy would of walked from behind wall toward TSBD
She would have to walk out around the motorbike and people packing the sidewalk.
It does add up.
She is not around Elm Street when we see Weigman and Couch filming, and she did not walk up Elm Street, she did not go by Bakers bike.
What other motorcycle radio is there?
Cheers, Ed
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Re: Jersey
Sun 07 May 2017, 9:47 am
Peggy said she does not recall if radio said Railroad Yard.
Just simply said nothing about the TSBD.
Or she wouldn't have gone in.
Bart could she hear Bakers radio with a 12:30 message from Curry about the railroad yard when she was behind the wall?
Is that a possibility?
Why?
Does hearing the 12:30 Curry message exclude Peggy from walking around Harkness' bike parked down the elm extension and out into the street to get to the steps/entrance?
Does Harkness' bikes radio preclude her from thinking the TSBD is a safe location.?
Not if she is listening at 12:35 on her way out into the street to get to the entrance.
Pau!
Cheers, Ed
Just simply said nothing about the TSBD.
Or she wouldn't have gone in.
Bart could she hear Bakers radio with a 12:30 message from Curry about the railroad yard when she was behind the wall?
Is that a possibility?
Why?
Does hearing the 12:30 Curry message exclude Peggy from walking around Harkness' bike parked down the elm extension and out into the street to get to the steps/entrance?
Does Harkness' bikes radio preclude her from thinking the TSBD is a safe location.?
Not if she is listening at 12:35 on her way out into the street to get to the entrance.
Pau!
Cheers, Ed
Re: Jersey
Sun 07 May 2017, 6:56 pm
Ed, there are no reports or pix/film of any bikes in front of the steps or TSBD building besides Harkness' I asked Dennis M. as well and had nothing to add either.
I have no trouble believing it if there is something to show for.
Curry transmitted the message about the RRyards at 12:31 and the only bike there at that time was Baker's. She cannot remember now about the RRyards msg, but her statement does say so.
Plus she saw the police officer standing n front of the steps as per statement.
The question here is how long after the shots did she make her way back in....from her statement it would be a minute or two.
Either her statement is rubbish or her memory is failing.
I know I use her statement in conjunction with Baker's so called ascent and I have no trouble correcting things, but more will be needed.
I have no trouble believing it if there is something to show for.
Curry transmitted the message about the RRyards at 12:31 and the only bike there at that time was Baker's. She cannot remember now about the RRyards msg, but her statement does say so.
Plus she saw the police officer standing n front of the steps as per statement.
The question here is how long after the shots did she make her way back in....from her statement it would be a minute or two.
Either her statement is rubbish or her memory is failing.
I know I use her statement in conjunction with Baker's so called ascent and I have no trouble correcting things, but more will be needed.
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- Ed.Ledoux
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Re: Jersey
Mon 08 May 2017, 9:43 am
Bart ike was not parked in gront of steps.
It was parked in front of the TSBD.
Different location
Her motorbike was down Elm Extension
That can only be Harkness.
You are confusing in front of steps with on way to steps.
She was on her way to the steps m8.
She left the wall,
Had to go out into Elm Extension to get by people packing the sidewalk
She went around a motorcycle parked on Elm Extension to get by it and hears a report on that radio which she feels safe to enter TSBD.
SO between shots and about 12:35 she moves back towards the TSBD takes up hiding behind the abutment/wall
She waited
She went back to depository, had to go into street as sidewalk was full.
She went from by the wall out into Elm Extension as sidewalk was full.
But there was a police motorcycle there she had to walk around. She hears on THAT motorcycles radio a report that does not mention the TSBD, so she went inside,
She did not see any police on her way to the third floor.
This is what she recalls.
I sent her the Fbi statement too Bart.
Cheers Ed
It was parked in front of the TSBD.
Different location
Her motorbike was down Elm Extension
That can only be Harkness.
You are confusing in front of steps with on way to steps.
She was on her way to the steps m8.
She left the wall,
Had to go out into Elm Extension to get by people packing the sidewalk
She went around a motorcycle parked on Elm Extension to get by it and hears a report on that radio which she feels safe to enter TSBD.
SO between shots and about 12:35 she moves back towards the TSBD takes up hiding behind the abutment/wall
She waited
She went back to depository, had to go into street as sidewalk was full.
She went from by the wall out into Elm Extension as sidewalk was full.
But there was a police motorcycle there she had to walk around. She hears on THAT motorcycles radio a report that does not mention the TSBD, so she went inside,
She did not see any police on her way to the third floor.
This is what she recalls.
I sent her the Fbi statement too Bart.
Cheers Ed
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Re: Jersey
Sun 21 May 2017, 10:05 am
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Re: Jersey
Sun 21 May 2017, 3:26 pm
Or this lady behind the wall is she identified?
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