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Post by greg parker on Fri 18 Aug 2017, 10:53 pm

paul trejo wrote:1.Oswald refused to give up his US Passport to the very last day.  

2. He refused to join the Communist Party in Russia.  

3. He refused Russian citizenship.  

4. He was a poser.  

5. Um, As soon as Marina crooked her little finger and said, "Let's go to the USA, honey," Oswald was packed and spent months fighting the system to get them all out.  

6. That's what the paperwork actually shows.  

7. The US State Department has all these records.

1.False. US Consul Snidely Whiplash kept the passport.

2 True and false. True that he never joined. That would have stopped him coming in from the Cold - and a return was always part of the plan. False that he ever refused to join. He was never asked or required to.

3. False. He was rejected and allowed to stay as a stateless person. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135&relPageId=368&search=stateless

4. Poser? Wha-?

5. Um. False again. He was arranging to go back to the US prior to even meeting Marina

6. False. It shows the opposite to just about all you said.

7. False - because all of the above claims are false. Which you would have known had you actually checked those records.

1/2 out of 7. 

That's actually not bad for Paul. So well done, I guess!

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Post by steely dan on Sat 19 Aug 2017, 2:19 am

1/2 a point is a welcome return to form for Pugsley. I thought he'd lost it when he dropped the Lee and Wes romance angle.
As they say, form is temporary, class is forever.
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Post by steely dan on Tue 05 Sep 2017, 3:04 am

"My main objection is that by starting his essay....."

Pugsley, it was a devastating reply to a huge whopper you began by claiming that Oswald's neighbours phoned the police.
That's how the rest of us remember it.
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Post by greg parker on Tue 12 Sep 2017, 10:00 am

steely dan wrote:"My main objection is that by starting his essay....."

Pugsley, it was a devastating reply to a huge whopper you began by claiming that Oswald's neighbours phoned the police.
That's how the rest of us remember it.
I think I've got to the bottom of Pugsley's angst.

Lee 'Nostradamus' Oswald predicted in 1962 that Pugsley would come along and pretend to be a LHO defender.

From the LHO "Historic Diary"

"Where can I turn" To factional mutants of both systems? To oddball Hegelian revisionists out of touch with reality...."

Trejo's Hegel pages:
http://philosophy.eserver.org/hegel-christianity.html
http://philosophy.eserver.org/hegel-summary.html

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Post by steely dan on Tue 12 Sep 2017, 4:08 pm

Had a look at the links, Greg. I can't find the part where he says "if, and only if". Or ex General Walker.
They are old pages though.
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Post by greg parker on Tue 12 Sep 2017, 4:14 pm

steely dan wrote:Had a look at the links, Greg. I can't find the part where he says "if, and only if". Or ex General Walker.
They are old pages though.
But there is no question it's our PT.

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Post by steely dan on Tue 12 Sep 2017, 4:31 pm

Yes, it's him alright.
Walker must turn up around '97 i guess.
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Post by greg parker on Tue 12 Sep 2017, 4:52 pm

steely dan wrote:Yes, it's him alright.
Walker must turn up around '97 i guess.
Dialectically speaking of course!

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Post by steely dan on Tue 12 Sep 2017, 5:03 pm

Just read his post on Barto's EF thread. He's not sure if Fritz and Co lied about what LHO said. Holmes, the only one unaware of the Reid Technique definately lied.
There really is a deliberatness to his bullshit.
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Post by greg parker on Tue 12 Sep 2017, 9:56 pm

steely dan wrote:Just read his post on Barto's EF thread. He's not sure if Fritz and Co lied about what LHO said. Holmes, the only one unaware of the Reid Technique definately lied.
There really is a deliberatness to his bullshit.
Yeah, I saw that. He's a piece of work isn't he?

Holmes never mentioned the Mexico City stuff because (imo) Oswald never went there. He added it to his WC testimony because by then he was on board with the frame. Either they forgot to brief him about the alibi stuff or they simply didn't care because they believed they had adequately covered by everyone else.

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Post by Terry W. Martin on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 6:46 am

Guys, this stuff is a little too existentially Hegellian to me.

Why in hell did Pugsley open this can of worms? [rhetorical, yes, I know].

Fascinating though about Lee's diary included that bit about Hegel... I guess I'm going to have to dust off an older book idea: Lee Harvey Oswald, Time Traveler.
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Post by greg parker on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 7:29 am

Terry W. Martin wrote:Guys, this stuff is a little too existentially Hegellian to me.

Why in hell did Pugsley open this can of worms? [rhetorical, yes, I know].

Fascinating though about Lee's diary included that bit about Hegel... I guess I'm going to have to dust off an older book idea: Lee Harvey Oswald, Time Traveler.
Why not? No shortage of story lines in that idea!

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