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Anatomy of Lee Harvey Oswald's Interrogations

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Anatomy of Lee Harvey Oswald's Interrogations

Post by barto on Thu 07 Sep 2017, 1:30 am

http://www.prayer-man.com/anatomy-of-lee-harvey-oswalds-interrogations/

This went much deeper than originally scoped. It is just over 300 pages.
My second paper of 4 on 'Prayer Man More Than A Fuzzy Picture'.

In this I talk about the happenings inside the D.P.D. while Lee Oswald was incarcerated. It is splitt in half. First the settings and the law enforcement officers involved. And then the legal side of it which proved to be most enlightening. 

I hope you enjoy reading it as much as I had in making it.

Best and ROKC on!

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Re: Anatomy of Lee Harvey Oswald's Interrogations

Post by greg parker on Thu 07 Sep 2017, 8:04 am

Bart, it, along with its companion pieces and Stan's book, should be regarded as essential readings in this case.

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Re: Anatomy of Lee Harvey Oswald's Interrogations

Post by barto on Thu 07 Sep 2017, 9:50 am

Thank you very much Greg. Working on part 3 The TSBD already. And there is a interactive presentation film to follow of this paper and the 2FLRE.

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Re: Anatomy of Lee Harvey Oswald's Interrogations

Post by Vinny on Sun 10 Sep 2017, 2:03 am

Very well done,Barto. Excellent piece of work.

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Re: Anatomy of Lee Harvey Oswald's Interrogations

Post by Stan Dane on Sun 10 Sep 2017, 2:39 am

Looking real good, Bart. "ROKC solid" stuff not found anywhere else.
 
I was a little surprised you used all of the memes I made for you last year, as a few "pushed the envelope" as it were. But then, you're a ROKCer so I shouldn't be surprised at all.

Well done.
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Re: Anatomy of Lee Harvey Oswald's Interrogations

Post by barto on Sun 10 Sep 2017, 9:39 am

Thanks Vinny, much appreciated.
Hi Stan, yeah I just wacked them all in, perhaps I should get rid of the risque ones, but then again this is what happened....well sorta sunny

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Re: Anatomy of Lee Harvey Oswald's Interrogations

Post by greg parker on Tue 12 Sep 2017, 7:27 am

Lance Payette at the Ed Forum wrote:I scrolled through all 308 pages of the PDF, and it is certainly a gold mine of information.  All of the incredible confusion, chaos, sloppiness and after-the-fact CYA scrambling strike me as exactly what I would expect if a Presidential visit had suddenly become a Presidential assassination, compounded by the murder of a DPD officer - and exactly what I would not expect if this had been any sort of organized conspiracy. 
Lance is partially right. 

There was chaos, but the chaos was created by allowing 300 reporters and cameramen into the building, and the pressure to allow FBI, Secret Service and Texas Rangers, among others, to sit in on the interrogations.

Take all that away and it comes back to being another garden variety case of the police being thrown a suspect and them grabbing him with both hands and making a case against him in all the usual garden variety and illegal ways... planting evidence, intimidating witnesses, junk science, denial of legal rights and etc. 

It is not as cut and dry as Lance thinks it is. There are other aspects outside the remit of Bart's piece which put it in a different light.

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Re: Anatomy of Lee Harvey Oswald's Interrogations

Post by greg parker on Tue 12 Sep 2017, 8:33 am

Just read this quote on FB in relation to something else, but it fits perfectly here:

If you created the noise you can tune it out and navigate it. Your goals are not compromised.


I will add that in this particular scenario, the noise (chaos) itself is just camouflage.

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Re: Anatomy of Lee Harvey Oswald's Interrogations

Post by Terry W. Martin on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 6:56 am

greg parker wrote:
Lance Payette at the Ed Forum wrote:I scrolled through all 308 pages of the PDF, and it is certainly a gold mine of information.  All of the incredible confusion, chaos, sloppiness and after-the-fact CYA scrambling strike me as exactly what I would expect if a Presidential visit had suddenly become a Presidential assassination, compounded by the murder of a DPD officer - and exactly what I would not expect if this had been any sort of organized conspiracy. 
Lance is partially right. 

There was chaos, but the chaos was created by allowing 300 reporters and cameramen into the building, and the pressure to allow FBI, Secret Service and Texas Rangers, among others, to sit in on the interrogations.

Take all that away and it comes back to being another garden variety case of the police being thrown a suspect and them grabbing him with both hands and making a case against him in all the usual garden variety and illegal ways... planting evidence, intimidating witnesses, junk science, denial of legal rights and etc. 

It is not as cut and dry as Lance thinks it is. There are other aspects outside the remit of Bart's piece which put it in a different light.

I think Payette missed the memo. Like the old correlation = causation thingy.

All the chaos, sloppiness, and so forth would not have occurred in a normal case. The many-vectored spanner in the works is what assures us it IS a conspiracy. A casual student of the case may never notice it but those who study the deeper levels can easily see the mis-directions are carefully aimed AWAY from the guilty parties.

At least I thought it was obvious.
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Re: Anatomy of Lee Harvey Oswald's Interrogations

Post by greg parker on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 7:35 am

At least I thought it was obvious.
Yes, but you cheated it. You looked at it.

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Re: Anatomy of Lee Harvey Oswald's Interrogations

Post by greg parker on Thu 14 Sep 2017, 8:36 am

And we follow in the best tradition.

From a radio interview with Sylvia Meagher:


Sylvia Meagher I think that the evidence clearly demonstrates that Oswald was entirely innocent of this crime, and indeed of the two other crimes charged to him: the murder of Tippit and the alleged attack on General Walker. I would say this purely on the basis of the official published evidence.

I'm sorry that one aspect of the evidence has received quite inadequate attention, except perhaps from Leo Sauvage in his book The Oswald Affair, and that is Oswald's alibi...
She goes on to make some mistakes regarding that alibi, but despite that, she did an amazing job considering what little she had to work with.

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Re: Anatomy of Lee Harvey Oswald's Interrogations

Post by barto on Mon 18 Sep 2017, 9:37 am



It's a good interview for me as it also brings up the 2nd fl enc.
This segment starts at the exact bit when you click on the play button above. Goes on for about 5 mins.

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