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Post by Stan Dane on Fri 29 Sep 2017, 4:05 am

Hypothetical interview of the Harvey & Lee Cult. Based on a series of posts written by Jeremy Bojczuk.
 
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Re: Harvey and Lee Cult - The Interview

Post by greg parker on Fri 29 Sep 2017, 8:29 am

Ha! 

The only element missing was the reporter pressing the little hidden button to summon the men in white coats...

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Post by Vinny on Mon 02 Oct 2017, 2:15 am

Very well done Stan.I too have wondered from time to time whether the Harvey & Lee theory is a disinformation plot to deliberately divide the community and make researchers look like nutcases.

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Post by Jake Sykes on Fri 06 Oct 2017, 12:00 pm

This is the kind of hardhitting bullshit that doesn't convince anybody of anything except that H&L is a farcical excuse for rational thinking:


"I’m not necessarily saying that the exhumation was faked, though I don’t rule it out. But there are other possibilities. I have explained to you any number of times that any organization that would deliberately poison hundreds and probably thousands of unsuspecting Americans with LSD just to see what might happen wouldn’t think twice about giving a young boy an unnecessary mastoidectomy simply to make his medical records match those of the boy he was being prepared to impersonate.  Why wouldn’t they?   Who could stop them? Review public documents about the MK ULTRA project for an overview of the morality of our CIA, at least back in the 1950s and early ‘60s. "


If they took the granular measure of falsifying surgical scars (which I do not believe for one millisecond), then they would necessarily also yank all the teeth and replace them with duplications re-pleat with cavity fillings, caps, etc. Never considered by this rocket scientist though. 
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Post by steely dan on Fri 06 Oct 2017, 12:52 pm

So Jake, teeth............... Very Happy
Funny innit.
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Re: Harvey and Lee Cult - The Interview

Post by Jeremy Bojczuk on Fri 06 Oct 2017, 10:38 pm

I feel honoured, Stan! Nice piece of work!

On the subject of men in white coats, does anyone know if Hargrove gets paid for promoting that nonsense so aggressively? I always assumed that he does get paid, but if he doesn't, you'd have to wonder about his mental state. "I’m not necessarily saying that the exhumation was faked, though I don’t rule it out." Is he really living in a bonkers fantasy world, or is he just doing his job?

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Post by greg parker on Fri 06 Oct 2017, 11:20 pm

Jeremy Bojczuk wrote:I feel honoured, Stan! Nice piece of work!

On the subject of men in white coats, does anyone know if Hargrove gets paid for promoting that nonsense so aggressively? I always assumed that he does get paid, but if he doesn't, you'd have to wonder about his mental state. "I’m not necessarily saying that the exhumation was faked, though I don’t rule it out." Is he really living in a bonkers fantasy world, or is he just doing his job?
Firstly, a big welcome Jeremy. There are not many havens of sanity on the net regarding this case. Your site is most definitely one of them.  http://22november1963.org.uk/a-brief-guide-to-the-jfk-assassination

As to your question - let's face it, if he is being paid, he would never admit it. 

According to his ed forum bio tho, part of his income is derived from writing - which just shows there is no god. 

In fact, his bio shows he is a perfect fit to promote this book...


author, speaker, web designer/web master... and real estate agent!


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Post by Jeremy Bojczuk on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 5:12 am

Thanks, Greg!

The reason I was wondering about Hargrove is that, as far as I'm aware, he only promotes the H & L fantasy. Other cult members such as Larsen and Josephs seem to latch onto pretty much any far-fetched theory that's put in front of them. For someone whose view of the world is basically paranoid, the H & L fantasy is just one more example of how the world works. If Hargrove thought like that too, you'd expect him to go around claiming that the Altgens 6 photograph is a fake, the Zapruder film is a fake, JFK's body was altered by the people who faked the moon landings, all that sort of nonsense. But, as far as I can tell, he doesn't touch those other topics. I suspect he isn't quite as crazy as he makes himself out to be.

It's interesting that he claims to be a web designer. I've looked at the HTML code of some of the pages of the H & L website (right-click, then select 'View Source'). They were created using word-processing software, which doesn't require any technical skill or knowledge. You just save each page as HTML instead of a word-processing format. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but for Hargrove to call himself a web designer is like calling yourself a chef when you only know how to throw a frozen ready meal into a microwave.

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Re: Harvey and Lee Cult - The Interview

Post by Stan Dane on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 9:50 am

Jeremy Bojczuk wrote:I feel honoured, Stan! Nice piece of work!

Hi Jeremy, pleased to meet you!
 
When I read your H&L posts over at EDF I couldn't stop laughing and I immediately began work on making your stuff into a video. You are very good!

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Post by greg parker on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 10:29 am

Jeremy Bojczuk wrote:Thanks, Greg!

The reason I was wondering about Hargrove is that, as far as I'm aware, he only promotes the H & L fantasy. Other cult members such as Larsen and Josephs seem to latch onto pretty much any far-fetched theory that's put in front of them. For someone whose view of the world is basically paranoid, the H & L fantasy is just one more example of how the world works. If Hargrove thought like that too, you'd expect him to go around claiming that the Altgens 6 photograph is a fake, the Zapruder film is a fake, JFK's body was altered by the people who faked the moon landings, all that sort of nonsense. But, as far as I can tell, he doesn't touch those other topics. I suspect he isn't quite as crazy as he makes himself out to be.

It's interesting that he claims to be a web designer. I've looked at the HTML code of some of the pages of the H & L website (right-click, then select 'View Source'). They were created using word-processing software, which doesn't require any technical skill or knowledge. You just save each page as HTML instead of a word-processing format. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but for Hargrove to call himself a web designer is like calling yourself a chef when you only know how to throw a frozen ready meal into a microwave.
To be fair, I'll quote Jim exactly in case I have overstated his ability. This is a straight copy and paste from his ed forum bio (tho my emphasis use).


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Profile: Author of more than 30 published books and numerous magazine and encyclopedia articles. Development and maintenance of a large-scale website and several smaller ones. Numerous Chicago-area radio and television appearances. Currently a licensed Wisconsin Realtor®️.
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I have verified the books just out of curiosity to check out subject matters, but didn't look at anything beyond that.

Again, to be as fair as I possibly can be, I will add that someone I respect and who also does not buy into the theory, told me years ago he thought Jim was basically a decent individual - but that was based solely on internet interactions.  Edit to add, it was also well before the theory was under any sort of attack or pressure from anyone other than Lone Nutters.

I  cannot explain what his motivation is. I do know he has the background as a writer, speaker and salesman to make it in this "position" which is really a modern-day upscale carnival spruiker http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/spruiker

Come one, come all and marvel at the short dumpy unsmiling Marguerite!

See the amazing Can of Worms open before your very eyes!

Be amazed by Bronx Zoo Kid - the only Hungarian refugee in New York to wear Southern Style clothes as if he had been wearing them all his life!

Learn from Dr. Fez the amazing secrets of CIA sperm experiments!

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Post by steely dan on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 11:17 am

If Armstrong has any news on the sperm theory then either Hargrove or the Fez should spit it out.
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Post by greg parker on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 11:25 am

steely dan wrote:If Armstrong has any news on the sperm theory then either Hargrove or the Fez should spit it out.
Oh fuck. Line of the fuckin century right there.

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Post by Jake Sykes on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 11:40 am

Welcome Jeremy, it is nice to see you here. You do great work. I admire your rational insights and creative elucidation. 


Greg. What can I say? "According to his ed forum bio tho, part of his income is derived from writing - which just shows there is no god." 
lol! lol! lol!
Spruiker. Entertaining and educational. 


Bottom line Greg: you're brilliant.
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Post by greg parker on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 6:28 pm

Jake Sykes wrote:Welcome Jeremy, it is nice to see you here. You do great work. I admire your rational insights and creative elucidation. 


Greg. What can I say? "According to his ed forum bio tho, part of his income is derived from writing - which just shows there is no god." 
lol! lol! lol!
Spruiker. Entertaining and educational. 


Bottom line Greg: you're brilliant.
Thanks my friend, but no... just a drongo from the bush with a pickled liver and brain.

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Post by Jake Sykes on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 9:30 pm

"just a drongo from the bush with a pickled liver and brain."

That just proves your brilliance mate.
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Post by steely dan on Sun 08 Oct 2017, 7:25 am

Harveys op was performed with a dremel during his exhumation. Possibly.
Larsons search for the truth has led him to the basement of the Doyle residence. Probably.
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Post by Jake Sykes on Sun 08 Oct 2017, 10:49 am

It's none of my business of course, but in my opinion Hargrove should be banned from EF. Bernie and rest have grounded HL to zero potential and all Hargrove does is hawk the book.
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Post by Jake Sykes on Mon 09 Oct 2017, 3:41 am

JH on EF:


"And Mr. Laverick wants to call me not only a hypocrite but a coward as well because I dare to point out that the overwhelming preponderance of evidence presented by me and others in this thread shows that the exhumation results were fixed, maybe not by the people involved in the exhumation, but more likely by the people charged with preparing and preserving the evidence."


Cornered, JH aborts the body altering angle along with any of the other options listed in JB's succinct outline of the various, final and flawed refuges "open" to HL adherents seeking shelter from theoretical annihilation, which I post as follows for convenience:


"- Perhaps the scientists who exumed Oswald's body risked ruining their careers by giving the body a post-mortem mastoidectomy.
- Perhaps the scientists deliberately lied in their report.
- Perhaps the editors of the Journal of Forensic Sciences were leaned on to publish that false report.
- Perhaps an unknown six-year-old Russian-speaking Hungarian refugee boy was given an unnecessary mastoidectomy operation by an unknown surgeon in an unknown hospital on the orders of some equally unknown Bad Guys just in case the boy's body might need to be dug up nearly forty years later.
- Perhaps aliens from outer space beamed Oswald's body up into their spacecraft and replaced it with that of his clone."

No, instead he resorts to the feeble, final, and faux argument that says the Goobermint done it. Just swooped in and pffft, changed everything so it fits H&L to a tee while using weasel words like "likely" and "maybe". He is "likely" just making the shit up. 

Overwhelming preponderance my ass. H&L are DOA.
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Post by greg parker on Mon 09 Oct 2017, 7:26 am

Jake Sykes wrote:Overwhelming preponderance my ass. H&L are DOA.
Hmm mmm. That's right Jake.

Check out some of the stellar cast of witnesses:

Frank Kudlaty - undeclared friend of co-founder of this theory, Jack White
Myra Darouse - allowed Armstrong to convince her that Ed Voebel's small friend Bobby Newman was in fact "Harvey".
Anna Lewis - that's right. Anna Freakin Lewis. The same "witness" who double dated with Judyth and Lee (or Judyth and Harvey if you must)
Palmer McBride - Palmer may well have been a solid witness generally (i.e. totally useless for H & L purposes) if he provably didn't have such a horrible memory for time frames... 

Witnesses avoided by Armstrong tell us just as much, including...
Bennierita Smith - the Beauregard witness who did recall little bookwormy Bobby Newman hanging out with Voebel and also confirms that Oswald did not have a tooth knocked out. 
Several co-workers from Pfisterer who all got the time-frame correct for Oswald's employment there.

It is little wonder that the H & L cult rejects the science involved in the exhumation autopsy. 

Science is as evident as Tasmanian Tiger droppings in Alaska within the methodology of this mob.


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Never in the history of film-making has a sound track been so perfect.

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Post by steely dan on Tue 10 Oct 2017, 4:48 pm

Mr Dane has produced a hauntingly beautiful lament for what once was.


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Post by Vinny on Wed 11 Oct 2017, 12:14 am

Welcome to ROKC,Jeremy.

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Post by steely dan on Sat 14 Oct 2017, 9:48 am

I understand that the Fez has submitted a new piece of work to Kennedys and King. It's called "Bernie is a twat" Here is a sneak preview.

Bernie is a twat.

D Josephs.
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