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Backyard photos
Sun 09 Sep 2018, 8:36 pm
I've been revisiting the backyard pix lately, and found that if you use the copy of The Militant Oswald is holding against his chest as a "ruler", backyard Oswald comes out at circa five feet high, five feet three inches max. The dimensions of the paper are known and indisputable (11 x 17 inches, tabloid format). And it's in the same plane (virtually) as Oswald. That's the case for fakery right there in a nutshell, solid and irrefutable whatever else might have been going on.
I also just came across another interesting item. Don't know how I missed it before, but the first generation prints of 133-A and 133-C obtained by the HSCA in 1978 came from former Dallas detective Richard S. Stovall, the same Stovall who took part in the search of the 23 Nov 1963 search of the Paine premises that turned up the backyard pix.
Stovall? Was he by any chance related to the Stovall of Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall, the graphics / photo lab where Oswald was employed in March 1963 when the backyard pix were allegedly taken? Has this been checked out? If there's a connection there, that would be pretty mind-boggling.
I also just came across another interesting item. Don't know how I missed it before, but the first generation prints of 133-A and 133-C obtained by the HSCA in 1978 came from former Dallas detective Richard S. Stovall, the same Stovall who took part in the search of the 23 Nov 1963 search of the Paine premises that turned up the backyard pix.
Stovall? Was he by any chance related to the Stovall of Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall, the graphics / photo lab where Oswald was employed in March 1963 when the backyard pix were allegedly taken? Has this been checked out? If there's a connection there, that would be pretty mind-boggling.
Re: Backyard photos
Tue 11 Sep 2018, 9:11 am
Interesting on the newspaper as ruler.
On Stovall... I had wondered the same thing, but never looked into it personally. Maybe someone with the requisite skills in this area can do a little digging?
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On Stovall... I had wondered the same thing, but never looked into it personally. Maybe someone with the requisite skills in this area can do a little digging?
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Backyard photos contd
Tue 11 Sep 2018, 10:26 pm
Thanks, Greg. The Stovall thing is a weird coincidence, if that's what it is. Still chasing that up and will keep you posted.
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Richard S. Stovall
Thu 13 Sep 2018, 2:39 am
Spent a good while on ancestry.com and family search and there doesn't seem to be any link between Dallas detective Richard S. Stovall and Robert L. Stovall of Jaggers Chiles Stovall. The Stovall name seems to be fairly common in the Dallas area, so maybe we shouldn't be surprised.
Re: Backyard photos
Thu 13 Sep 2018, 11:12 am
Fwiw, I think ruling something out is as valuable as ruling something in, so it was not a wasted effort.orangebicycle wrote:Spent a good while on ancestry.com and family search and there doesn't seem to be any link between Dallas detective Richard S. Stovall and Robert L. Stovall of Jaggers Chiles Stovall. The Stovall name seems to be fairly common in the Dallas area, so maybe we shouldn't be surprised.
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Re: Backyard photos
Tue 25 Sep 2018, 8:50 pm
In a telephone call between Marina Oswald and Harry Livingstone on July 3rd 1992 , Marina said that she did not take the BYP with the stairs to Lee's right.
H.L.: The back yard photographs that you took?
M.O.: Yes.
H.L.: You did take some pictures, but....I think you told Larry Howard that you were standing underneath that stair way. Rather than...
M.O.: In one position was the stairwell behind me.
H.L.: Yeah.
M.O.: And then we moved in front of the house. And the stairway was on the right from me.
H.L.: Where it is now in the camera? In the pictures.
M.O.: I don't know, is it on the right or the left? It was on the roght from me and on the left from Lee.
H.L.: In the two different points of view.
M.O.: Yes, What points of view or...? Two different positions.
H.L.: Yeah. So...
M.O.: 'Cause he told me to wait and then got something.....(inaudible).
H.L: In the photographs we have, the camera is facing the stairway, the stairs are to the side but behind Oswald right?
M.O.: No, that could not be. That picture I didn't take.
H.L.: You did not take those pictures?
M.O.: No.
H.L.: The back yard photographs that you took?
M.O.: Yes.
H.L.: You did take some pictures, but....I think you told Larry Howard that you were standing underneath that stair way. Rather than...
M.O.: In one position was the stairwell behind me.
H.L.: Yeah.
M.O.: And then we moved in front of the house. And the stairway was on the right from me.
H.L.: Where it is now in the camera? In the pictures.
M.O.: I don't know, is it on the right or the left? It was on the roght from me and on the left from Lee.
H.L.: In the two different points of view.
M.O.: Yes, What points of view or...? Two different positions.
H.L.: Yeah. So...
M.O.: 'Cause he told me to wait and then got something.....(inaudible).
H.L: In the photographs we have, the camera is facing the stairway, the stairs are to the side but behind Oswald right?
M.O.: No, that could not be. That picture I didn't take.
H.L.: You did not take those pictures?
M.O.: No.
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Backyard photos
Tue 25 Sep 2018, 10:58 pm
Interesting interview! I wasn't aware of it previously. Only problem is it's hard to tell whether this is Marina finally "coming clean", or whether she's simply confused!
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