Why Officer Tippit Stopped His Killer
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Why Officer Tippit Stopped His Killer
Wed 10 Jul 2019, 4:09 pm
First topic message reminder :
https://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/why-officer-tippit-stopped-his-killer
New article at Jim's site. Claims that Officer Tippit was likely murdered in an attempt to further the same conspiracy.
Why Officer Tippit Stopped His Killer
https://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/why-officer-tippit-stopped-his-killer
New article at Jim's site. Claims that Officer Tippit was likely murdered in an attempt to further the same conspiracy.
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Re: Why Officer Tippit Stopped His Killer
Thu 09 Feb 2023, 2:36 pm
He was also an international arms dealer and ladies garment unionist in NY and a commie-ringleader in Muncie Indiana while stationed elswhere in the army. Possibly also a snitch for Nixon.lanceman wrote:Could he have picked up the spare uniform from the cleaners or perhaps intended to take it to the cleaners?
Wasn’t Ruby supposed to be at Parkland Hospital at about the time of the Tippit murder, per Seth Kantor? Kantor seems very credible but I have some difficulty with no one else seeing the gregarious Ruby at the hospital. Ruby was also supposed to have delivered guns to the grassy knoll, been at tge Dallas Times Herald, at the Terminal Annex Building and in front of the TSBD.
Maybe it’s time for a Jack and Leon scenario a la Harvey and Lee.
The doppelgangers could have used a good organizer like Jack to form a union to protect their interests and copyrights.
Your first statement could be all there is to it - but it is still predicated on an unproven premise - that what we see is in fact a uniform.
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Re: Why Officer Tippit Stopped His Killer
Thu 09 Feb 2023, 3:23 pm
lanceman wrote:Could he have picked up the spare uniform from the cleaners or perhaps intended to take it to the cleaners?
Wasn’t Ruby supposed to be at Parkland Hospital at about the time of the Tippit murder, per Seth Kantor? Kantor seems very credible but I have some difficulty with no one else seeing the gregarious Ruby at the hospital. Ruby was also supposed to have delivered guns to the grassy knoll, been at tge Dallas Times Herald, at the Terminal Annex Building and in front of the TSBD.
Maybe it’s time for a Jack and Leon scenario a la Harvey and Lee.
no. it's never time for that.
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Re: Why Officer Tippit Stopped His Killer
Thu 09 Feb 2023, 3:38 pm
Just so there’s no misunderstanding, the Jack and Leon proposed hypothesis was made in jest.
However, senator Barry Goldwater, who was JFK’s likely opponent in 1964 and had the most to gain from his death cui bono-wise was supposedly in Muncie, Indiana on the day of the assassination. His cover story was that he was there for the funeral of his mother in law. However, it may have been to meet with Jack. Or was it Leon?
However, senator Barry Goldwater, who was JFK’s likely opponent in 1964 and had the most to gain from his death cui bono-wise was supposedly in Muncie, Indiana on the day of the assassination. His cover story was that he was there for the funeral of his mother in law. However, it may have been to meet with Jack. Or was it Leon?
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Re: Why Officer Tippit Stopped His Killer
Sat 11 Feb 2023, 8:39 pm
Article Terms Inquiry Into Tippit Slaying Inadequate.
https://www.nytimes.com/1964/10/12/archives/study-sees-gaps-in-warrendata-article-terms-inquiry-into-tippit.html
https://www.nytimes.com/1964/10/12/archives/study-sees-gaps-in-warrendata-article-terms-inquiry-into-tippit.html
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Re: Why Officer Tippit Stopped His Killer
Sun 12 Feb 2023, 3:31 am
Looking at how Tippit’s car was positioned, offset from the curb by a few feet, angled away from the curb and blocking a driveway, it suggests Tippit made a sudden, unplanned stop. He did not roll down the passenger side window but instead spoke to his killer through the vent window. One transcript of the DPD tapes shows he made two attempts to contact the dispatcher that were unacknowledged. Another transcript does not show this but does show a single unacknowledged call to the dispatcher from #58 (Tippit was #78) at about 1:07. Something that the killer said to Tippit made Tippit decide to immediately leave his vehicle. It’s hard to believe that the killer would pass his wallet or ID through the vent window and that if something was amiss, that Tippit would have returned it so quickly. There is no report of the killer retrieving anything from the car before fleeing.
It seems at least as likely that Tippit’s killer flagged him down.
It seems at least as likely that Tippit’s killer flagged him down.
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Re: Why Officer Tippit Stopped His Killer
Sun 12 Feb 2023, 9:10 am
Vinny wrote:Article Terms Inquiry Into Tippit Slaying Inadequate.
it's paywalled sadly...
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Re: Why Officer Tippit Stopped His Killer
Sun 12 Feb 2023, 8:36 pm
Garn G wrote:Vinny wrote:Article Terms Inquiry Into Tippit Slaying Inadequate.
it's paywalled sadly...
Here is the article.
A Columbia University research team has charged that the Warren Commission failed to interview all persons able to give information about the assassination of President Kennedy and the slaying of Patrolman J. D. Tippit in Dallas last Nov. 22.
George and Patricia Nash, a husband and wife who are research assistants at the university's Bureau of Applied Social Research, also declared that the commission's report “is less than complete.”
In that connection, the Nashes cited their data on the personnel and facilities at the Texas School Book Depository, from which the shots that killed the President were fired.
Their findings, based on an Independent two‐week study in Dallas that included interviews with some of the witnesses, are published in today's issue of The New Leader, a biweekly magazine sponsored by the American Labor Conference on International Affairs, Inc.
The magazine article, called “The Other Witnesses,” says that the Warren Commission failed to question all those who saw the slaying of Patrolman Tippit, the Dallas police offices who was said to have stopped and questioned the President's assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald.
The Nashes asserted they were able to locate two persons who were not questioned. They were Mr, and Mrs. Frank Wright, who lived in an apartment about half a block from the site of the patrolman's murder.
The authors, describing Mr. Wright's report on what he saw when the patrolman was killed, conclude with a quote from him:
“I knew a man drove off in a gray car. Nothing in the world's going to change my opinion. I saw a man drive off in a gray coupe just as clear as I was born. They can say all they want about a fellow running away, but I can't accept this because I saw a fellow get in a car and drive away.”
Noting that Mr. Wright's story differed sharply from the Warren Commission Report, the Nashes commented:
“We have no way of knowing how the investigation could have ignored Wright, whether his memory is accurate, or whether a plausible explanation for the mysterious man in the car might be a passerby unwilling to be a witness. Why didn't this account come to the commission's attention?”
The Nashes also point out that Mrs. Wright called for an ambulance and that the police records show it was her call that led to a response from the Dudley M. Hughes Funeral Home. The ambulance driver, Clayton Butler, also was not questioned by the commission, according to the authors.
Turning to the Warren Report, the Nashes noted that the commission had relied on testimony from Mrs. Helen Louise Markham on the Tippit slaying, and they described this information as “in direct contradiction” with that garnered from the people they interviewed.
On this point, the authors conclude:
“It appears quite possible that Mrs. Markham came on the scene only after hearing the shots; and without Mrs. Markham, there Is no one to say precisely what’ happened between Tippit and Oswald.”
The Nashes also said the commission's report had “unresolved or untouched” these points:
¶Information on a second witness to the Tippit slaying interviewed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. She was identified as Acquilla Clemmons.
¶The proximity of the site of the Tippit slaying to the home of Jack Ruby, who later killed Oswald in the Dallas prison.
¶The fact that at least one other man working in the Texas School Book Depository, from which Oswald was’ said to have fired the rifle that killed the President, was missing from the sixth‐floor work crew.
¶The fact that there were four separate “rear doors, all of which were open and only one of which was guarded,” at the depository.
Declaring that their aim was not to. establish “any person's guilt or innocence,” the Nashes said they had undertaken the study “to demonstrate that future historians and social scientists will not be able to reconstruct what occurred from the commission's report alone.”
As the years pass, they concluded, “questions will become increasingly difficult to answer with any degree of accuracy.”
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