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Thu 04 Feb 2021, 7:26 pm
Looks like Lifton is running out of money to write his book.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/publishing-final-charade-seq-to-best-evidence

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Fri 05 Feb 2021, 2:11 am
@Vinny wrote:Looks like Lifton is running out of money to write his book.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/publishing-final-charade-seq-to-best-evidence
25K for storage costs?

Couldn't the best selling author get an advance from his publisher?

What an utter phigroll of humanity.

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I made "phigroll" roll up because I couldn't think of a bad enough word.

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Fri 05 Feb 2021, 2:49 am
After four months, he's about one-thirteenth of the way there, so at this rate he should reach his target early in 2024, just too late to cash in on the next big anniversary.

Are we allowed to make non-financial donations which reflect Lifton's contribution to JFK assassination research? I've got a tatty old pair of underpants that I can send, slightly stained (one not very careful owner). There's also an unidentifiable small food item (possibly a phigroll) that fell down the back of the fridge some time ago. Let me know, and I'll see if I can hook it out.
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Fri 05 Feb 2021, 4:11 am
Inspired by Jeremy's philanthropic gesture i've decided to arrange a " Save the Charade " Charity Auction at next week's Abductees Anonymous meeting...

I'm ( selflessly I might add) planning to donate my full body tin foil suit ( incidentally this is NOT the same tin foil suit Don Jeffries wore in  his cinematic debut in the low budget Korean gonzo remake of The Wizard of Oz...A Blizzard of Jizz) and the special implant free Titanium lined trilby I wear on my bi monthly abductions... picnicking on Venus with Andrew Basangio, Barack Obama and a couple of carnivorous pleisosaurs...

Quite fitting in many respects, as the simple minded  macabre dreck Lifton has churned out over the years is about as credible as claims of interplanetary hijinks with ex Presidents and dinosaurs

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Fri 05 Feb 2021, 4:31 am
Jeremy - so funny what you said! LOL

This is seriously unfucking believable. The shit this guy has oozed out through the years. And there's absolutely no way you need $25k for "storage."

All he has to go is go to one of the colleges in Los Angeles and ask (beg) for an intern to help him. But then he'd want to spin a yarn about it about throwing her body down into the cargo hold, where three hours later, they'd sneak it out the back door of the plane onto a thrumming copter. It'd then be whisked away where mad doctors with scalpels at the ready would perform all manner of bodily alterations.

And sadly the sucker are still out there, throwing money at him.

Fun times with old Dave about his nutty book - LOL:

https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/24927-who-changed-the-motorcade-route/page/9/?tab=comments#comment-379522
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Fri 05 Feb 2021, 3:46 pm
His body alteration theory is as crazy as Armstrong's theory.

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Sat 06 Feb 2021, 4:37 am
Hi Guys, as many of you will know, I don't post here very often, but I do keep an eye on the various topics you discuss because I know that the work you are doing is invaluable. I also keep the emails filed away for future reference, just in case a topic comes up that has a direct bearing on anything that I am researching. As you also will have gathered, I am usually busy with life's mundanities - both the welcome and unwelcome kind - so don't avail myself of this forum often enough or, indeed, get anything like as much research done as I would wish to, although I am doing my best to keep up with essential background reading, with a view to feeding that into/informing my research as and when I am able to partake. Anyway, just to say thanks to Barto for recommending the forum to me a few years back, and to Greg, with whom I have recently communicated.

Right, introductions of sorts aside, the reason for this post is that, having perused the monthly digest of the current topics - as I have done for the past two or three years or so, and than taken a closer look at this one, I was a little surprised to see the venom directed towards David Lifton - not for the $25,000 go fund me shenanigans, I should add - but rather the dismissal of his 'body abduction, etc' theory. So, although I am still tied up with other matters, for the sake of clarification, I felt compelled to respond here.

Forgive my newbie's naivety, and I am only asking the question here, not asserting anything, but I take it from the vitriol directed towards Lifton that, in turn, the support for his pre-autopsy head surgery theory offered by Doug Horne (albeit modified in that the surgery was done by Humes at Bethesda, not Walter Reed) can be dismissed as equally absurd? If so, please enlighten me, and explain why, as this question has a direct bearing on some research that I hope to one day resume and complete, and I do not want it to be riven with foolish errors on my part.

Further, in this same respect, I take it that Craig Roberts' contention regarding the substitute Air Force One - with a modified stowage compartment - is therefore equally worthy of ridicule? Thus his comments that a helicopter should have been nowhere near AF1 should be similarly dismissed?

From what I could see, in both cases (Horne and Roberts) were particularly thorough in backing up their Lifton-supportive contentions, even if the former differed somewhat by effectively dismissing, quite rightly it seems, Walter Reed as a location for said surgery. I can provide references to their respective works - at some stage - if required and/or you guys are not already familiar with them (which, of course, I doubt to be the case).

As I am busy with other things right now, it will be a while until I get back on the forum to check any responses, but I just want to thank you in advance for any contributions any of you may make that help to set the record straight.

Cheers, David P.
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Sat 06 Feb 2021, 6:17 am
David P / Shadow Man...

https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/23250-david-lifton-teases-final-charade-on-the-night-fright-show/page/31/

You may want to start at the above page and continue on. Of course this is just one dissenter's dissension of Lifton's story. You'll see, too, at the above link that Lifton himself also spews his own brand of vitriol to the person who doesn't agree with him.

If you do proceed at the above, there are some other links in there from the McAdams site you may want to peruse.

People on this forum, including Greg Parker, may have their own links rebutting Lifton's theory to share with you.

A few posts above in this thread is another link to the ED Forum. You may want to read that one too because now Lifton is trying to pass along yet another theory about the assassination theory. Which led to this post as he's going around begging for money to complete the book.

In my opinion you have to go into this case with a skeptic's eye. Could it really truly have gone down like Lifton claims? You have to ask yourself that. Could the body some how and in some way been removed from the coffin enroute to Love Field, thrown down into the cargo hold, and then in front of live TV cameras at Andrews, whisked out the back door of the plane onto a thrumming copter for alteration? While Jackie and Bobby disembark in front of the so-called empty coffin? With the Irish Mafia in shock and stunned with the murder, standing around?
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Sat 06 Feb 2021, 11:20 am
If simple disagreement was the sole factor, there will be no vitriol. The vitriol is an optional extra reserved for those who either

make it easy for the media to heap scorn and derision on everyone looking into this case and therefore set the cause back or, are thoroughly odious human beings.

Lifton manages to hit both.

Additionally, according to the late great Harold Weisberg, he is a thief. I can personally vouch for that because he has flagged his intention of using a piece of my research and claiming it as his own in his upcoming book.  

Horne is likewise just another retailer of conspiracy crud. I have my suspicions about the relationship between the two and how that affected Horne's work with the ARRB - especially since he was not hired as a medical specialist. 

Although this has no bearing in and of itself regarding his later body snatching theory, it does tell us something about the man that one of his earlier published theories was that snipers were firing from inside fake trees.

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Sun 07 Feb 2021, 5:26 am
If you cannot find a publisher GoFundMe is an alternative but nabbing $2K in 5 months which does not even cover a month's expenses, is not really a success story.
Time for everyone to realise that the JFK assassination is a dead subject.....

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Sun 07 Feb 2021, 11:47 am
@barto wrote:If you cannot find a publisher GoFundMe is an alternative but nabbing $2K in 5 months which does not even cover a month's expenses, is not really a success story.
Time for everyone to realise that the JFK assassination is a dead subject.....

In the immortal words of Billy Crystal-Meth, it's "only MOSTLY dead..."

Methinks the pandemic might be playing a part in the lack of donations.. possibly he might have pulled more via a facebook appeal and plugging it on the many jfk groups, making it a far more targeted appeal.

MOSTLY dead means it can ne revived. Just need the special something that cuts through the media BS
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Mon 08 Feb 2021, 9:50 am
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@barto wrote:If you cannot find a publisher GoFundMe is an alternative but nabbing $2K in 5 months which does not even cover a month's expenses, is not really a success story.
Time for everyone to realise that the JFK assassination is a dead subject.....

In the immortal words of Billy Crystal-Meth, it's "only MOSTLY dead..."

Methinks the pandemic might be playing a part in the lack of donations.. possibly he might have pulled more via a facebook appeal and plugging it on the many jfk groups, making it a far more targeted appeal.

MOSTLY dead means it can ne revived. Just need the special something that cuts through the media BS
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Wed 10 Feb 2021, 1:43 am
Just need the special something that cuts through the media BS.


 Lifton's BS makes the media BS look sensible.

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Wed 10 Feb 2021, 11:48 am
Oh really?

If Oliver Stone cannot flog 4 hours to Netflix and Nat Geo then who else is going to break the mould....

https://variety.com/2021/film/news/oliver-stone-jfk-documentary-cannes-1234904254/

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Wed 10 Feb 2021, 11:58 am
I now calculate he won't reach the target until 2025 - but that is only if he keeps getting donations at the current rate - and I think historically, donations plateau and then slow down...so I think he will be in a nursing home having spittle wiped from his chin by a nurse/security guard built like Homer Simpson, and wiping his arse with whatever remains of the manuscript, long before he reaches his target.

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Wed 10 Feb 2021, 1:07 pm
@barto wrote:Oh really?

If Oliver Stone cannot flog 4 hours to Netflix and Nat Geo then who else is going to break the mould....

https://variety.com/2021/film/news/oliver-stone-jfk-documentary-cannes-1234904254/
Barto, I don't read it quite the same way.

Stone began making this well before all the issues about fake news and fact-checking sprang up during the US election.

According to the link, Netflix and Nat Geo only declined because of a disagreement over a claim they either fact-checked and found untrue, or a claim that they were unable to verify through fact-checking.

I think we would be watching it on Netflix or Nat Geo now if not for this sudden craze to check all claims for accuracy.

I'd have to know what the disputed fact was to make any sort of judgement. Maybe he was plugging his new bestie, JVB, or if not the woman herself, one of her bullshit stories  What the?

Do you think any network or streaming service would knock Stone (or any number of others) back if the documentary was based around a clear copy of PM showing it really is Oswald, along with all the documentary evidence placing him on those steps?

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Thu 11 Feb 2021, 1:11 pm
Cinque is on his way to make his third movie.  If Cinque who believes some of the most outlandish theories ever can get investors, why can't others?

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Tue 09 Mar 2021, 5:13 am
Sounds like the Honda is still missing. Perhaps is was shoved down into the cargo hold of a 737, where it was shipped to an undisclosed location. Perhaps it was then snuck off the back door of the plane, placed into a Chinook, which thrummed off where mad body shoppers did all manner of alterations to it, turning it into a Ford ... or a Lincoln.
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Tue 09 Mar 2021, 9:30 am
Not to make light of someone having been assaulted and robbed but I'm not buying Lifton's story of him having been mugged and his car taken at gun point. The post reads like something out of one of his books. The post also happens to have just a little too much of I, me, mine about it for me. Who talks of the make or model of thier car when describing it as having roared away from the scene of the crime? I'm a cynic, he wants a little sympathy and just happens to want money from his Go fund me page. JVB all over again me thinks.

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Fri 12 Mar 2021, 6:28 pm
@JFK_Case wrote:Sounds like the Honda is still missing. Perhaps is was shoved down into the cargo hold of a 737, where it was shipped to an undisclosed location. Perhaps it was then snuck off the back door of the plane, placed into a Chinook, which thrummed off where mad body shoppers did all manner of alterations to it, turning it into a Ford ... or a Lincoln.

Good one,Mike.

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Fri 12 Mar 2021, 6:29 pm
@Mick_Purdy wrote:Not to make light of someone having been assaulted and robbed but I'm not buying Lifton's story of him having been mugged and his car taken at gun point. The post reads like something out of one of his books. The post also happens to have just a little too much of I, me, mine about it for me. Who talks of the make or model of thier car when describing it as having roared away from the scene of the crime? I'm a cynic, he wants a little sympathy and just happens to want money from his Go fund me page. JVB all over again me thinks.

 I thought the same,Mick. I found his claims of being robbed a bit far fetched.

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