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Post by Stan Dane on Tue 12 Nov 2013, 5:50 am

One of my life's observations is that some people know nothing and they learn nothing. They smugly overrate their abilities. They fail to recognize when they are losing and they refuse to acknowledge they have been defeated despite others witnessing their defeat. Then, with a silly grin, they go on to say they won.

It's almost impossible to deal with such people. They are destructive to the prevailing culture.

When it's clear who they are, they need to go on the guest list.

Just my two piasters worth.
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Post by greg parker on Wed 20 Nov 2013, 10:01 am

I completely understand where you're coming from, Stan.

The demon I wrestle with is where the line is drawn. Where exactly is the line between banning trolls and banning someone just because you don't like them, or because you disagree with them? 

Even if you get it right at the beginning, you always have to stay vigilant that you're not consciously or subconsciously shifting the goalposts or thresholds in order to remove thorns that are otherwise perfectly acceptable non-trolls.

I don't want to copy the DPF model, or the ed forum model of how posters are accepted in the first place - and what they have to do (or not do) to remain acceptable members. 

Let's just give the current system a chance and see how it goes. There is now a clear-cut message regarding the type of posters we want, and those who join and don't adhere to the spirit if it, have no right to expect to remain a member.

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Re: Life Observation

Post by Stan Dane on Wed 20 Nov 2013, 11:48 am

greg parker wrote:I completely understand where you're coming from, Stan.

The demon I wrestle with is where the line is drawn. Where exactly is the line between banning trolls and banning someone just because you don't like them, or because you disagree with them? 

Even if you get it right at the beginning, you always have to stay vigilant that you're not consciously or subconsciously shifting the goalposts or thresholds in order to remove thorns that are otherwise perfectly acceptable non-trolls.

I don't want to copy the DPF model, or the ed forum model of how posters are accepted in the first place - and what they have to do (or not do) to remain acceptable members. 

Let's just give the current system a chance and see how it goes. There is now a clear-cut message regarding the type of posters we want, and those who join and don't adhere to the spirit if it, have no right to expect to remain a member.
I hear you Greg and I don't want to imply that you are not on top of things here. Not for a minute. I just remember how uncomfortable I was not too long ago watching the disruption that was taking place here. I was starting to feel like I do when I visit the forum that has as a member the bald headed Lex Luthor looking character who says he rolls on the floor laughing all the time but has a foul, nasty disposition. The tension was so great here you could cut it with a knife. You dealt with those agitants skillfully and professionally. Much better than I would have.
 
The opinions I expressed on forum control and trolls are just that, opinions. Sometimes you just want to say what you want to say and get it off your chest and I did. And I've said all I'll say about it.
 
This is a great forum! High caliber, competent members! Non-intimidating environment. In a way, I have no business being here because who the hell am I? You guys forgot more about the JFK assassination than I'll probably ever know. But I have eyes and a brain and if I see things or have insights, I like to be able to speak up. You make it easy to do that Greg, and I thank you.
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Re: Life Observation

Post by greg parker on Wed 20 Nov 2013, 12:30 pm

Stan Dane wrote:
greg parker wrote:I completely understand where you're coming from, Stan.

The demon I wrestle with is where the line is drawn. Where exactly is the line between banning trolls and banning someone just because you don't like them, or because you disagree with them? 

Even if you get it right at the beginning, you always have to stay vigilant that you're not consciously or subconsciously shifting the goalposts or thresholds in order to remove thorns that are otherwise perfectly acceptable non-trolls.

I don't want to copy the DPF model, or the ed forum model of how posters are accepted in the first place - and what they have to do (or not do) to remain acceptable members. 

Let's just give the current system a chance and see how it goes. There is now a clear-cut message regarding the type of posters we want, and those who join and don't adhere to the spirit if it, have no right to expect to remain a member.
I hear you Greg and I don't want to imply that you are not on top of things here. Not for a minute. I just remember how uncomfortable I was not too long ago watching the disruption that was taking place here. I was starting to feel like I do when I visit the forum that has as a member the bald headed Lex Luthor looking character who says he rolls on the floor laughing all the time but has a foul, nasty disposition. The tension was so great here you could cut it with a knife. You dealt with those agitants skillfully and professionally. Much better than I would have.
 
The opinions I expressed on forum control and trolls are just that, opinions. Sometimes you just want to say what you want to say and get it off your chest and I did. And I've said all I'll say about it.
 
This is a great forum! High caliber, competent members! Non-intimidating environment. In a way, I have no business being here because who the hell am I? You guys forgot more about the JFK assassination than I'll probably ever know. But I have eyes and a brain and if I see things or have insights, I like to be able to speak up. You make it easy to do that Greg, and I thank you.
Stan, I have holes all over the place in my knowledge of this case.

But as El Cohen sez... "that's how the light gets in..."

I for one, am very happy to have you hear as a contributor.

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Re: Life Observation

Post by Stan Dane on Thu 21 Nov 2013, 4:18 am

greg parker wrote:Stan, I have holes all over the place in my knowledge of this case.

But as El Cohen sez... "that's how the light gets in..."

I for one, am very happy to have you hear as a contributor.
If holes let the light in, I'm a brightly illuminated fellow!
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