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Wed 19 Sep 2018, 7:38 am
Warren Burroughs in 1990

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barto wrote:Warren Burroughs in 1990

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Thu 20 Sep 2018, 5:53 pm
These are all quality vids, thank you for them
Each one is a gem!
Someone dropped a gun... would he be Nick?
Or cops let a guy pick up his pistol, neat trick?
...and the pinkie finger part. Well thats news you can use.
Here everyone was under impression the web of hand was a ruse.
Nick should have checked Nick's little digit instead.
A pinkie stops a pinko, headlines could have read.
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Sun 24 Feb 2019, 5:57 am
Paul Bentley, most interesting.
Thanks to Malcolm Blunt.

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Thanks to Malcolm Blunt.

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Mon 11 Mar 2019, 1:35 pm
...and that is just the two sentences he recalls,
No civil rights being violated tho...

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Sat 04 May 2019, 10:39 am
From Gus Rose:


When you’re interrogating somebody, you try to establish a rapport with them, and you set about to do that without getting into the actual case. I did ask him about his arrest and he said, “Oh, I was just sitting in the theater and officers came in and planted a gun on me and accused me of shooting somebody. I don’t know nothing about that!” So it was that type of interrogation with him. When I first saw him, he looked okay except for being sweaty and the injury over one eye. He did settle down somewhat and became less nervous in this short interrogation, though he was still combative with his answers. I found him to be arrogant and belligerent and almost in a state of confusion. He denied emphatically that he’d done anything wrong, almost overdenial. I’ve been involved in lots of interrogations, and it was almost overkill on his denials. His attitude was “I haven’t done anything; I’ve been framed,” which wasn’t bad from the standpoint of interrogation.

Sneed, Larry A.. No More Silence: An Oral History of the Assassination of President Kennedy (p. 338). Texas A&M University Press. Kindle Edition.

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Sat 04 May 2019, 11:37 am
Mick Purdy wrote:From Gus Rose:


When you’re interrogating somebody, you try to establish a rapport with them, and you set about to do that without getting into the actual case. I did ask him about his arrest and he said, “Oh, I was just sitting in the theater and officers came in and planted a gun on me and accused me of shooting somebody. I don’t know nothing about that!” So it was that type of interrogation with him. When I first saw him, he looked okay except for being sweaty and the injury over one eye. He did settle down somewhat and became less nervous in this short interrogation, though he was still combative with his answers. I found him to be arrogant and belligerent and almost in a state of confusion. He denied emphatically that he’d done anything wrong, almost overdenial. I’ve been involved in lots of interrogations, and it was almost overkill on his denials. His attitude was “I haven’t done anything; I’ve been framed,” which wasn’t bad from the standpoint of interrogation.

Sneed, Larry A.. No More Silence: An Oral History of the Assassination of President Kennedy (p. 338). Texas A&M University Press. Kindle Edition.
Same Gus Rose.....listen to his comments and compare them with what's above.


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Sat 04 May 2019, 2:48 pm
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barto wrote:Warren Burroughs in 1990

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc938627/m1/
As always Barto many thanks.

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It's all in here, Mick.
https://www.thenewdisease.space/texas-theatre-mysteries

And the same author has sent me another essay that will be up soon. This one on Otis Williams. What until you read it....eye-popping.

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From the Blunt archives.

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From Blunty's lair! Earl Golz files. One of the very few good MSM guys who actually dug deeper than all the others... 
Very interesting read.
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Mon 06 May 2019, 10:43 am
Applin Eyewitness: In the Texas Theatre at the time of Oswald's arrest.

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Mon 06 May 2019, 10:51 am
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"When you’re interrogating somebody, you try to establish a rapport with them, and you set about to do that without getting into the actual case. I did ask him about his arrest and he said, “Oh, I was just sitting in the theater and officers came in and planted a gun on me and accused me of shooting somebody. I don’t know nothing about that!”

Sneed, Larry A.. No More Silence: An Oral History of the Assassination of President Kennedy (p. 338). Texas A&M University Press. Kindle Edition.

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        Gus Rose took no notes during Oswald’s chat, but in this article in 1998 for D Magazine he said the following about what Oswald said.
"The suspect had suffered a small red abrasion over his right eye while scuffling with officers at the Texas Theatre in Oak Cliff. But the young man didn’t seem dazed or confused at all. He was angry and arrogant. "I don’t know what I’m doing here," he said.  
A homicide detective for only three years. Rose would later gain renown as a skilled interrogator. Blocking out the hubbub, he turned his attention to the hostile suspect.
"I don’t own a gun," the man said. "I didn’t have that gun. They planted that on me when they arrested me."

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So, looking at this this and according to Applin it was a reasonably heavy set plain clothes police officer who may have planted the gun in Oswald's hands. 220lbs = approximately 100kgs and at 5 11" tall, he would've been hard to miss.

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Tue 07 May 2019, 10:55 am
Officers at the Texas Theatre when Oswald was arrested:



Paul Bentley

Kenneth Eugene Lyon "K.E. Lyon" 

Eddie Raymond "Buddy" Walthers 

Charles Truman "C.T." Walker 

Robert "Bob" Carroll 

Gerald Lynn "Jerry" Hill

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Tue 07 May 2019, 11:07 am
Hill WC Testimony:




Mr. BELIN. I hand you what has been marked as "G. L. Hill Deposition Exhibit B." State if you know what this is.


Mr. HILL. This is known to be a picture that was made still inside the theatre as we were moving down the aisle, I believe, to get him to the aisle that divided the two sections.
Now specifically, the exact point in the theatre where this was made, I don't know.



Mr. BELIN. Do you recognize anything?


Mr. HILL. There are three people in this picture that I recognize. The officer with the white uniform hat on that is in the foreground looking at the picture, would be to the left side, is C. T. Walker.
The suspect, and what is an open collar, and what appears to be a T-shirt from here, looking almost directly at the camera with his face practically covered by the officer's cap, is a man later identified to us as Lee Harvey Oswald.


And the man in the suit looking at the camera with a cigar in his mouth is Detective Paul Bentley.
There is, to Mr. Bentley's left, part of another officer that is apparently wearing a suit with only part of his suit and his shirt and his left hand showing. That cannot be recognized, but I will have to admit I think it is me.


And there is a faint image there, if you get the light--that is what I am trying to see very faintly--if we had a--yes, that is going to be me. What we need is to get the light in at an angle.


Mr. BELIN. If you hold it a little bit to your right?


Mr. HILL. Yes; that is going to be me.


Mr. BELIN. Do you know who this person is with the helmet at the extreme left of the person with the helmet?


Mr. HILL. I do not recognize him specifically, but just trying to identify that much of him, I would say it could be an officer named L. E. Gray, but I can't make positive identification.








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Tue 07 May 2019, 3:35 pm
Then Gray would be the one who hit Lee in the back with the shotgun since Applin remembered it being a motorcycle cop. In fact, by the exression on Lee's face and the position of Gray, that might be what we are seeing on those stills.

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Tue 07 May 2019, 3:59 pm
Mick,
The Applin quote with the picture of the motorcycle cop "L.E. Gray" is outstanding.


Not sure Applin says plain clothes, and holster may mean a uniformed officers holster.
Wasn't Nick about 5'10" and 200 plus pounds?

Here is Warren Commission exhibit B.

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Motorcycle Officer Gray is the most likely candidate to have hit Oswald with his shotgun butt, at least according to Applin.

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A big heavy set plainclothes police officer with a cowboy hat asked; "Did you kill him"
Applin goes on to say the same police officer then asked Oswald, why he shot the President, why he killed the President, or why he shoot the President.





Could G Hill be the heavy set man with the hat? Was it Hills holster? Presumably Detectives wore a holster inside the under the suit coat.

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