What was the point?

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I see that Al-Qaeda forces have taken over Fallujah in Iraq.
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/al-qaeda-force-captures-fallujah-amid-rise-in-violence-in-iraq/2014/01/03/8abaeb2a-74aa-11e3-8def-a33011492df2_story.html
 
We went in there 10 years ago to get them and all other evil-doers outta there. A big to-do it was. And we paid a damn heavy price. My family did too. My sister lost her only son, 20, near Fallujah in 2005. I sweated out my son doing two tours of duty in Iraq. I was the lucky one.
 
Now it's the same as it ever was...same as it ever was….
 
My nephew died for nothing. That's tough to swallow.

Paul Klein wrote:As John Lennon famously said; "Suppose they had a war and nobody came?" I'd go a step further and say suppose they had an election and nobody turned up to vote. We don't need politicians to defend our own freedoms.

When I was younger, we saw the same types of corporate interests back one party while other corporate interests backed the other. It was a pretty well known little secret. People should have smelled the dry roast when each corporation began funding BOTH parties. (And probably a major reason why there are only two real parties here.)

I wrote a blog during the last general election claiming that anyone who voted for either of the two major parties were nothing more than traitors continuing this sham "two-party" system. Unfortunately, no one really listens to the lone nuts howling in the wilderness... as though anyone ever has, huh?

I believe government to be the oldest conspiracy, just as the priesthood is the oldest profession (not prostitution... well, not that kind of prostitution anyway). And with the MSM doing almost all their coverage of the two "legitimate" parties, any vote is and always will be wasted.

And that seems so much like treason to me: supporting the traitors ruining our country.

(... stepping gently down from soap box)

Been a long day. Helped wife clean out her schoolroom as it is over until the fall semester starts. I ache and I'm a bit cranky... But, hey, I'm sure that doesn't show, does it?

terlin wrote:

Paul Klein wrote:As John Lennon famously said; "Suppose they had a war and nobody came?" I'd go a step further and say suppose they had an election and nobody turned up to vote. We don't need politicians to defend our own freedoms.

When I was younger, we saw the same types of corporate interests back one party while other corporate interests backed the other. It was a pretty well known little secret. People should have smelled the dry roast when each corporation began funding BOTH parties. (And probably a major reason why there are only two real parties here.)

I wrote a blog during the last general election claiming that anyone who voted for either of the two major parties were nothing more than traitors continuing this sham "two-party" system. Unfortunately, no one really listens to the lone nuts howling in the wilderness... as though anyone ever has, huh?

I believe government to be the oldest conspiracy, just as the priesthood is the oldest profession (not prostitution... well, not that kind of prostitution anyway). And with the MSM doing almost all their coverage of the two "legitimate" parties, any vote is and always will be wasted.

And that seems so much like treason to me: supporting the traitors ruining our country.

(... stepping gently down from soap box)

Been a long day. Helped wife clean out her schoolroom as it is over until the fall semester starts. I ache and I'm a bit cranky... But, hey, I'm sure that doesn't show, does it?

Democracy does nothing more than legitimize government. As if the world would end without someone to govern us. Give me a fucking break. How fucking stupid and useless do they think we are that we wouldn't be able to cope within our own set of communes? They put the fear of God and country in for good measure and devise at least a two tribe system so they are able to divide and conquer. They then say life wasn't meant to be easy and go right ahead and make bloody sure of it by playing economics with our livelihoods.
It is a conspiracy Terry, so maintain the rage and be cranky. We are all part of it whether we know it or not.

greg parker wrote:"maintain the rage" Ironic isn't it Paul? The only person maintaining any rage is Malcolm Frazer. He has been giving the government a gobfull on twitter on everything from the budget to FOI/secrecy to climate change.

Who'd have picked it?

Old age, Greg. I am betting he is a very concerned grandfather who loves and cares for his grandchildren and their future.

Stan Dane wrote:

Having dredged up the above picture a few weeks ago, I found another in the stash.
 

 
Even without the hair, you still took a lot of shit!
 
It's nice to be able to relax and laugh about all of this now. Bad dreams are few and far between anymore.