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Prayer Man Vs Sasquatch

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Post by Terry W. Martin on Fri 30 Dec 2016, 12:35 am

Greg Martin wrote:I wonder where this guy is from?  I'm ashamed to say it but my very own state...it seems there are several sightings, of big feets, mullets and the wild pabst blue ribbon.... If indeed he visits said yeti roundup, I would be honored to visit on behalf of ROKC and get signed prints for you all ... Or perhaps a CD of Bigfoot calls and knockings

A capital notion, Greg.

I think we have an opening in the gift shop for just that sort of merchandise.

(in the back, right behind the toilet...)

I agree with Parker: this guy has made Doyle look like a Rhodes scholar, and Mingus to look like the conehead he is.

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Post by Greg Martin on Fri 30 Dec 2016, 12:52 am

Terry W. Martin wrote:
Greg Martin wrote:I wonder where this guy is from?  I'm ashamed to say it but my very own state...it seems there are several sightings, of big feets, mullets and the wild pabst blue ribbon.... If indeed he visits said yeti roundup, I would be honored to visit on behalf of ROKC and get signed prints for you all ... Or perhaps a CD of Bigfoot calls and knockings

I agree with Parker: this guy has made Doyle look like a Rhodes scholar, and Mingus to look like the conehead he is.
And that is no mere feat either...

I honestly think these guys are living proof that apes, bread with humans...and I'm not talking about big foot Smile

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Post by Paul Francisco Paso on Fri 30 Dec 2016, 4:51 am

Greg Martin wrote:I wonder where this guy is from?  I'm ashamed to say it but my very own state...it seems there are several sightings, of big feets, mullets and the wild pabst blue ribbon.... If indeed he visits said yeti roundup, I would be honored to visit on behalf of ROKC and get signed prints for you all ... Or perhaps a CD of Bigfoot calls and knockings
He's from the state of denial, Greg. Or the state of delusions of grandeur or mental deficiency. Not your state at all mate. I for one would like an autographed picture of his mullet but it must be authenticated that the mullet itself signed it. I am sure that mullet has a life of its own.
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Post by Greg Martin on Fri 30 Dec 2016, 6:12 am

Paul Francisco Paso wrote:
Greg Martin wrote:I wonder where this guy is from?  I'm ashamed to say it but my very own state...it seems there are several sightings, of big feets, mullets and the wild pabst blue ribbon.... If indeed he visits said yeti roundup, I would be honored to visit on behalf of ROKC and get signed prints for you all ... Or perhaps a CD of Bigfoot calls and knockings
He's from the state of denial, Greg. Or the state of delusions of grandeur or mental deficiency. Not your state at all mate. I for one would like an autographed picture of his mullet but it must be authenticated that the mullet itself signed it. I am sure that mullet has a life of its own.
Paul, then perhaps I could interest you in a rubbing? Much like they do to pull the information from worn gravestones... I could take a hard object and a piece of paper, and beat and rub the mullet with enough force that any information contained within would be Transfered to the paper?

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Post by Greg Martin on Fri 30 Dec 2016, 6:17 am

This look like the bloke?

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Post by Paul Francisco Paso on Fri 30 Dec 2016, 8:40 am

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Paul Francisco Paso wrote:
Greg Martin wrote:I wonder where this guy is from?  I'm ashamed to say it but my very own state...it seems there are several sightings, of big feets, mullets and the wild pabst blue ribbon.... If indeed he visits said yeti roundup, I would be honored to visit on behalf of ROKC and get signed prints for you all ... Or perhaps a CD of Bigfoot calls and knockings
He's from the state of denial, Greg. Or the state of delusions of grandeur or mental deficiency. Not your state at all mate. I for one would like an autographed picture of his mullet but it must be authenticated that the mullet itself signed it. I am sure that mullet has a life of its own.
Paul, then perhaps I could interest you in a rubbing? Much like they do to pull the information from worn gravestones... I could take a hard object and a piece of paper, and beat and rub the mullet with enough force that any information contained within would be Transfered to the paper?
Nah. It sounds like too much trouble for very little information that you'll garner but thanks for the offer. Perhaps if you come across some Sasquatch droppings and Billy Ray Mullet you could apply that rubbing technique to his face and hair. Use all the force you can muster.
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Post by steely dan on Fri 30 Dec 2016, 10:50 am

"serious research" is a serious business. So far Mingus has given us Stinky, Brian and Billy Ray Mullet.
Here's a little tribute.

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Post by Greg Martin on Fri 30 Dec 2016, 12:42 pm

I just love finally getting to be a part of this high end research...

I'm just ever so thankful I'm not on ya'lls bad side Smile

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Post by Terry W. Martin on Fri 30 Dec 2016, 2:56 pm

Greg Martin wrote:I just love finally getting to be a part of this high end research...

I'm just ever so thankful I'm not on ya'lls bad side Smile

Yes, this is the type of "high end research" we do so well.

A little levity goes a long way. That's why we have Stan Dane and Steely's famous Little Big Horn in Dealey theory.

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Post by Paul Francisco Paso on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 7:58 am

This is in reply to the allegations of James Mingus Gordon and Billy Ray Mullet Miller that members here at ROKC have somehow artificially pumped up the reviews at Amazon for Stan Danes book of Sean Murphys hypothesis called Prayer Man Out of the Shadows and into the Light. I dare both of you to prove these assertions but it's a case of never mind the research let's just bag the shit out of it irrespective of it all or whether its been read or not. Stan quite clearly states upfront that the book is based on Sean Murphys work so I'm not sure whether Mingus has read it beyond the cover but is quite happy to judge it anyways. Billy Ray Mullet is butt hurt. You can tell he is injured. An old fart from monolithic JFK researcher days when they roamed around aimlessly discussing facts that had been more than adequately covered in the 60s by better and more contemporary researchers of the era. He is a fucking joke. A guy who has hunted Sasquatch for a living yet Mingus has the temerity to hail him a serious researcher above all others who have researched the notion of Prayer Man from its inception. Mullet head hasn't even read the whole thread nor Stan's book. He claims to have seen Bart's film but I don't believe that much about him. This is a guy who chases Bigfoot and talks out of his arse.
To not even entertain the idea of coming together to finally resolve this issue and get a clearer scan is the crux of all this. To me that is a telling fact. I thought that at the very least would be indisputable. I've come across lone gunmen theorist that have supported that motion yet these two fuckwits are all about resistance. I am really questioning their motives because other than that they have not done their home work on the subject that much is obvious. Perhaps a Yeti ate it but I doubt it. These two are not above board. Something stinks in the State of Prayer Man denial at the EF.
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Post by Paul Francisco Paso on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 8:46 am

"Character underming" we do upfront here out in the open for all to see. We don't do the thinly veiled stuff here, Mingus. That's your domain and your expertise. Billy Ray Mullet can cry foul about it and so can you but that doesn't cover your ulterior motives or hide your inadequacies on a subject matter you know nothing about other than to scorn it. Get back to us in earnest when you're up to date. Same for you Mullet head.
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Post by steely dan on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 9:03 am

Mingus is using an old technique, perfected by the Vacant Lot. Post for a reaction and then scream for the salts when it arrives. As a successful tactic, it has the lifespan of a mayfly, but stupidity reigns supreme at the EF.

It really is time to cut the deadweight's adrift. PM bothers them to the point that a Unicorn, a Yeti specialist and a man in a golf jumper are expected to be considered as "serious researches".....their only common bond being they have no fucking idea what they're talking about.

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Post by steely dan on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 10:19 am

Toto had the good sense to join the ROKC......and is now busy posting positive reviews on Amazon, using multiple aliases.

Good boy, Toto!

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Post by greg parker on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 10:21 am

Paul Francisco Paso wrote:"Character underming" we do upfront here out in the open for all to see. We don't do the thinly veiled stuff here, Mingus. That's your domain and your expertise. Billy Ray Mullet can cry foul about it and so can you but that doesn't cover your ulterior motives or hide your inadequacies on a subject matter you know nothing about other than to scorn it. Get back to us in earnest when you're up to date. Same for you Mullet head.
As usual, Good Lord, it's Mingus! has put the cart before the horse.

So now I have to explain lampooning to him.

In order to lampoon someone, the person who is the target of the lampoon needs to have exhibited some character flaw, personal trait, or to have taken some action that is worth drawing attention to.

So with that in mind, you are unlikely for example, to ever see a lampoon of Sylvia Meagher. Nothing there to lampoon. On the contrary, Sylvia should be regarded as a national treasure.

On the other hand, pretentious twats who hide their bile behind a completely false sense of academia, and who can't even seem to grasp the simplest facts (i.e. when Murphy came up with PM), is most certainly fair game for lampooning. As is someone who got a very substantial payout on the basis of permanent incapacity for work due to medical negligence, only to turn up years later as a professional guide on the Sasquatch trail, and who rides back into the Ed Forum in denial of PM without having read a single thing on the subject, and who since has shown himself to be stuck in the 1980's in oh so many ways, is also a very eligible candidate. 

In short, those who are subject to lampooning have already undermined there own credibility and/or character. That's the very thing that makes them eligible for lampooning.

I trust that clears up the misapprehensions being experienced by Good Lord, it's Mingus!

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Post by Stan Dane on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 10:27 am

steely dan wrote:Toto had the good sense to join the ROKC......and is now busy posting positive reviews on Amazon, using multiple aliases.

Good boy, Toto!

Checkmate.

Toto is so loyal Greg's going to make him a moderator here. When the shit hits the fan, you can count on Toto!

PS: The next shipment of bones for your positive reviews should be arriving tomorrow, a.m. Toto. Good boy!
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Post by steely dan on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 10:56 am

Toto had a sniff around the EF and figured out something bigger had already had a shit there.
A "serious shit", no less.
Huge!
Not of this world!
And then Billy Ray Mullet turned up.

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Post by steely dan on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 11:16 am

greg parker wrote:
Paul Francisco Paso wrote:"Character underming" we do upfront here out in the open for all to see. We don't do the thinly veiled stuff here, Mingus. That's your domain and your expertise. Billy Ray Mullet can cry foul about it and so can you but that doesn't cover your ulterior motives or hide your inadequacies on a subject matter you know nothing about other than to scorn it. Get back to us in earnest when you're up to date. Same for you Mullet head.
As usual, Good Lord, it's Mingus! has put the cart before the horse.

So now I have to explain lampooning to him.

In order to lampoon someone, the person who is the target of the lampoon needs to have exhibited some character flaw, personal trait, or to have taken some action that is worth drawing attention to.

So with that in mind, you are unlikely for example, to ever see a lampoon of Sylvia Meagher. Nothing there to lampoon. On the contrary, Sylvia should be regarded as a national treasure.

On the other hand, pretentious twats who hide their bile behind a completely false sense of academia, and who can't even seem to grasp the simplest facts (i.e. when Murphy came up with PM), is most certainly fair game for lampooning. As is someone who got a very substantial payout on the basis of permanent incapacity for work due to medical negligence, only to turn up years later as a professional guide on the Sasquatch trail, and who rides back into the Ed Forum in denial of PM without having read a single thing on the subject, and who since has shown himself to be stuck in the 1980's in oh so many ways, is also a very eligible candidate. 

In short, those who are subject to lampooning have already undermined there own credibility and/or character. That's the very thing that makes them eligible for lampooning.

I trust that clears up the misapprehensions being experienced by Good Lord, it's Mingus!
Toto noticed that Mingus was a decade out with his "educated guess" as to when Sean Murphy looked into PM.
Toto asked me to post this , as he's busy licking his arse after a hard shift on his laptop.

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Post by steely dan on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 12:20 pm

Fucking Hell!
A small dog can lance so many boils and draw the pus.
Mingus, bring back Cubehead. Bring back Pat Speer to claim the figure is Dionne Warwick.  Bring back Lamson to claim Sean Murphy is a cross dresser. Bring back hanging for unruly subjects?

But don't, DON'T face the mirror you fucking shithouse.

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Post by Stan Dane on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 2:28 pm

Unger is posting stuff from Bookhout's second report (the one that he redid "solo" following the first joint report with Hosty) over at The Education Forum. I'll provide some context here from Chapter Four of Prayer Man:

Stan Dane, Prayer Man: Out of the Shadows and Into the Light wrote:
Sean Murphy said the two Bookhout-authored November 22 interrogation reports make for interesting comparative reading. From Interrogation Report #1 (jointly written by Bookhout and Hosty, typed 11/23/63, dated 11/22/63, "dictated" 11/23/63):*

Oswald stated that he went to lunch at approximately noon and he claimed he ate his lunch on the first floor in the lunchroom; however he went to the second floor where the Coca-Cola machine was located and obtained a bottle of Coca-Cola for his lunch. Oswald claimed to be on the first floor when President John F. Kennedy passed this building.

Sean said this account contains two rather bizarre omissions:
 
1.) The precise location on the first floor of Oswald's claimed whereabouts at the time JFK passed the building
2.) Any mention of an incident involving himself, a police officer and Mr. Truly
 
Assuming that the Prayer Man theory he's been outlining is correct, Sean said the reason for the two omissions in the Bookhout-Hosty report becomes instantly intelligible: there is no way on earth that such a potentially explosive double claim by the suspect in custody (I was at the front entrance during the shooting and interacted with my boss and a police officer just seconds later) is going to make it into the official record.
 
What happens next is key—you might even say it's the giveaway, Sean said. Bookhout goes solo. He takes the curious step of putting together a second, "improved" report on the very same interrogation. From Interrogation Report #2 (written by Bookhout, typed 11/25/63, dated 11/22/63, "dictated" 11/24/63):**

Oswald stated that on November 22, 1963, at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building by Dallas police officers, he was on the second floor of said building, having just purchased a Coca-cola from the soft-drink machine, at which time a police officer came into the room with pistol drawn and asked him if he worked there. Mr. Truly was present and verified that he was an employee and the police officer thereafter left the room and continued through the building. Oswald stated that he took this Coke down to the first floor and stood around and had lunch in the employee's lunch room. He thereafter went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes with foreman Bill Shelly, and thereafter went home.

Sean asked if people could see what's happened. The key elements of what Oswald had really claimed (coke, standing outside, police officer, Truly) have been transposed into a different timeframe. Why? In order to deprive the now dead Oswald of his absolutely watertight alibi by having him "confirm" the bogus Second Floor lunchroom story.
 
Sean invited for serious consideration the hypothesis that Bookhout's solo report needs just a small tweak to give us, for the first time, a credible guide as to what Oswald really said to Fritz in that first interrogation session (black = original Bookhout text; red = Sean's changes; blue = repositioned Bookhout text): 

  • Oswald stated that on November 22, 1963, at the time of the shooting, he was on the first floor of said building, having just purchased a Coca-cola form the soft-drink machine on the second floor
  • Oswald stated that he took this Coke down to the first floor and stood around at the front door,
  • at which time a police officer came into the vestibule with pistol drawn and asked him if he worked there.
  • Mr. Truly was present and verified that he was an employee and the police officer thereafter left the vestibule [with Mr. Truly] and continued through the building.

Sean asked what the most valuable piece of text was in Bookhout's entire solo report. Surely, he said, it's the phrase in bold here: at which time a police officer came into the room with pistol drawn and asked him if he worked there.
 
* Bookhout-Hosty FBI joint interrogation report, 11/22/63.
** Bookhout FBI interrogation report, 11/22/63, dictated 11/24/63.
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Post by steely dan on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 2:36 pm

Unger sat back and watched Lamson shout shit. He's well aware of what he's doing ,Stan.

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Post by greg parker on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 3:18 pm

Robin Unger wrote:The Fuzzy Prayer Man image proves nothing, it just leads to wild speculation



Robin Unger wrote:the fritz notes "out with Bill Shelley in front" comment most likely does not refer to the assassination Timeline
but instead actually refers to the Timeline just prior to Lovelady going home


Robin Unger wrote:The Testimonies are contradictory to one another, that is part of the problem.


So on the basis of contradictory information, (or perhaps despite it) Robin has speculated that Fritz's notes re Shelley equate to a time-frame much later than everyone else assumes.


"The contradictory information" was aimed at PM, without realizing he was making a dispostive statement himself based on that same "contradictory testimony".

And it was aimed at PM with one thought in mind: make everyone ignore the documentary record so the "fuzzy" image can continue to be assailed.

Too bad you stepped in your own shit, Robin.


What is NOT contradictory in the records are the first day statements and news accounts. These match up nicely with what Oswald told Holmes.

The reasons for later contradictions should be obvious to anyone without an agenda. 

Oswald's alibi had to be destroyed. Standard police procedure at the time. No recording of interrogations so that the police can make any claim at all about what was said.


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Witnesses had to conform to an ever changing police scenario. This scenario had to be straightened out (ie have some sort of internal logic) by the time of the WC hearings.


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Post by steely dan on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 3:54 pm

Toto earns a pat on the head for spotting deliberate ignorance.
Molly the Earthworm spotted it also, but we keep her back for serious attacks.

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