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Peter Johnsen
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on Sat 21 Sep 2019, 4:26 pm
I have previously read, either through Pulte or Brownlow (I think) that the janitor of the Texas theatre was interviewed. And he had said that Dallas Police officers arrived at the theatre early morning on the 22nd, well before opening hours,and thoroughly searched the building. So much so that they interfered with his work. Has any other member come across this 'nugget'?
The other question I have regarding theatre comings and goings, is the arrest of a second Oswald.  While I believe that this certainly happened, the general consensus has been that this person was 'rescued' from the Dallas Police and presumably set free etc etc after leaving the alley at the back of the theatre. However, if Stringfellow went to the trouble of providing an official arrest warrant about the arrest in the gallery, does this imply that this arrested person was actually brought in to the station?
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on Sat 21 Sep 2019, 8:42 pm
Peter Johnsen wrote:I have previously read, either through Pulte or Brownlow (I think) that the janitor of the Texas theatre was interviewed. And he had said that Dallas Police officers arrived at the theatre early morning on the 22nd, well before opening hours,and thoroughly searched the building. So much so that they interfered with his work. Has any other member come across this 'nugget'?
The other question I have regarding theatre comings and goings, is the arrest of a second Oswald.  While I believe that this certainly happened, the general consensus has been that this person was 'rescued' from the Dallas Police and presumably set free etc etc after leaving the alley at the back of the theatre. However, if Stringfellow went to the trouble of providing an official arrest warrant about the arrest in the gallery, does this imply that this arrested person was actually brought in to the station?
G'day Peter. Good to see you here.

Firstly, just a bit of housekeeping, After this reply, I'll move the thread to JFK, This one is for summaries of google group threads.

Have never heard anything about a janitor at the Texas Theatre. They had actually been cutting back on staff and didn't even have a full-time manager. He divided his time between two or three cinemas.

I'm pretty sure the person who pushed a broom was the concession stand guy, Butch Burroughs. But again, have never come across the allegation you refer to - and it is one that would be hard to believe. The place never opened before about mid-day, so for the police to go there early morning, they would have needed to get the manager to come and open up. 

If you can find the citation for this, we can talk about it some more.

On the other matter of a second arrest, 

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It is not hard to solve from there. The witness taken out the back and taken in for a statement was George Applin. The above document says the witness heard the pistol click (actually a chair click) 

Mr. BALL - Did you hear anything? 
Mr. APPLIN - Well, about the only thing I heard was the snap of the gun and the officer saying, "Here he is." 
Mr. BALL - You heard the snap of a gun? 
Mr. APPLIN - Yes, sir. 

The document goes on to say that the three officers stayed and took contact details of all the patrons. Again confirmed by Applin.

Mr. BALL - And did you go out and follow them out? 
Mr. APPLIN - No, sir; I went out to the candy counter out there and the officer said, if there's anybody in there that seen it--and asked--there was about two or three, the candyman himself, and said--that one boy said that he seen him, through the front--I mean out from behind the picture where it came out---supposed to came out behind the picture. 
Mr. BALL - Did you give them your name there? 
Mr. APPLIN - He asked my name and address and where I was staying at the time. 

Lastly, the document says that this witness was taken by the three into City Hall.

Mr. BALL - Later did you go down to the police station and make a statement? 
Mr. APPLIN - Yes, sir; I did. 
Mr. BALL - When? 
Mr. APPLIN - Well, it was after--I guess after they got everybody's name. I rode down with three officers. 
Mr. BALL - That same day, did you? 
Mr. APPLIN - Yes, sir. 
Mr. BALL - You didn't go back to the picture show? 
Mr. APPLIN - Yes, sir; I did. There was a patrolman that carried me back out and I was going to see the rest of it, but I never did get back in time to. 
Mr. BALL - You didn't get to see the show? 
Mr. APPLIN - Well, I seen part of it, but I didn't get to see all of it. 

Once again, we see witnesses misunderstanding what they see - in this case, Burroughs and Haire seeing a witness escorted by police, mistaking it for an arrest - but being promoted by conspiracy authors as "proof" of whatever theory they are promoting.

Sorry mate. But I can't help with two Oswald's in the theatre.  There was only the one. Applin was a young, white male, same as Oswald and he was escorted out by police, but that's as close as it gets.

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on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 2:02 pm
Thanks Greg for some clarification. I'll chase up where the hell I read that about the cleaner. If it were true, WOW!
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on Sun 22 Sep 2019, 6:28 pm
Peter Johnsen wrote:Thanks Greg for some clarification. I'll chase up where the hell I read that about the cleaner. If it were true, WOW!
No worries.

I should also address this:

However, if Stringfellow went to the trouble of providing an official arrest warrant about the arrest in the gallery, does this imply that this arrested person was actually brought in to the station?


There were actually two reports about Oswald being being arrested in the balcony. Neither of these were arrest warrants - merely memos advising of the arrest. Neither of the authors of these reports were present at the Texas Theatre and have just assumed that because the suspect was reported as being in the balcony by Julia Postal, that this must have been where he was arrested. The exact location of the arrest in the theatre was of no great importance in these reports - the information that was going up the line was simply that an arrest had been made.

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