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    Post by greg parker on Wed 24 Apr 2013, 11:20 am

    Stoll is just another propagandist spinning the facts to suit his own political agenda.

    An excerpt from the book is on Amazon and shows Stoll uses an old JFK quote to try and bolster his position.
    In a June 1953 Saturday Evening Post article, Kennedy said, “I’d be very happy to tell them I’m not a liberal at all,” adding, speaking of liberals, “I’m not comfortable with those people.”
    The quote however, is taken completely out of context and is only partially given.

    JFK, from the very beginning of his political career, was determined to be his own man not beholden to any lobby or interest group, no unions, no foundations, no corporations.

    To that extent, at the time he had made the above quote, he had been goading his old Harvard economics teacher, Russ Nixon - by then the legislative representative of the United Electrical Worker's Union - with quotes from Lenin on the usefulness of "fellow-travelling organizations". It was with regard to those discussions with Nixon that JFK stated "I’d be very happy to tell them I’m not a liberal at all. I never joined Americans For Democratic Action or The Americans Veterans Committee. I’m not comfortable with those people.”

    The book excerpt also goes into a speech made by JFK in 1946. The speech is an exceptionally patriotic one - and therefore is being cited as further evidence of latent "conservatism". As if non-conservatives (or as in the case of JFK, those who eschewed such left/right labels) cannot be patriotic. But the real issue here is that the speech was given for INDEPENDENCE DAY. Again, the context in which the speech was given, is not mentioned by Stoll. He makes it seem like JFK was in the habit of giving such speeches... much like a rabid fire and brimstone preacher - but seen in context, his speech was exactly fitting for the moment. That's the nature of speeches. They are tailored to be appropriate.

    During this same time period, the alleged conservative JFK argued and voted against the Taft-Hartley Bill which sought to strip away rights of workers. The Bill passed - but not with JFK's support or blessing.

    It's an up-hill battle correcting all the shitty little lies and distortions about Kennedy. It's gets all the media attention and very little mainstream critique concerning veracity, context, sources of material used. Mimi Alford proved you can sell any crap to the media so long as it presents Kennedy in a negative light.

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    Re: JFK, Conservative

    Post by Hasan Yusuf on Thu 25 Apr 2013, 7:46 am

    Good going, Greg. These assholes who want to belittle JFK seriously need to get a life. Maybe they should listen to his June 10 America university speech. Kennedy sounded so conservative in his speech, it's frightening!


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