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Post by greg parker on Sat 15 Mar 2014, 7:52 am

Have opened this forum up for discussion on any books written by members here.

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A Singular Killing and a Massacre By Committee

Post by Terry W. Martin on Fri 11 Apr 2014, 7:47 am

The President was murdered, the suspect quickly proclaimed, then killed, followed by a government investigation that covered up a whole lot of things.
 
Sound familiar?
 
It should. It was April, 1865, President Lincoln was assassinated. Within a matter of hours, the assassin was named and the search for him began.
 
The suspect, John Wilkes Booth, had killed the President under order form the enemy - the Confederacy - and had acted out of spite since the war was over.
 
Meanwhile, the co-conspirators were rounded up and held over for military tribunal, since the deed was deemed to be an act of war even though the war was already over.
 
The assassin was killed and would never face his accusers in court.
 
The government commission established to try the case very quickly nailed it down on those already apprehended (but one) and convicted them and, in absentia, Jefferson Davis and the Confederate government.
 
A conspiracy, an assassination, a government commission, and ignored questions swatted aside as if they were meaningless. Sounds familiar doesn't it? And no one seems to wonder why it is the version still so widely accepted today despite its very close parallels with the Kennedy assassination.
 
In 1937, Otto Eisenschiml published Why was Lincoln Murdered? With this volume he birthed the conspiracy thesis for the Lincoln Assassination. Had there been more CTs in 1865, it would have been a different story, but there were not.
 
Otto accused the Secretary of War, Edwin Stanton, of being the mastermind of the plot to kill Lincoln. Naturally, mainstream historians don't lend any credence to the hypothesis. Nor does the mainstream media. Just as in another case closer to our time.
 
Unfortunately, Eisenschiml was wrong. About Stanton, that is. It was, however, a conspiracy that did not include Booth (except as innocent patsy) and a cover-up, which continues even to today.
 
First they claimed Booth did it as a failed actor looking for fame. But how could the vast majority of those attending the theater that night know it was Booth who jumped to the stage? It is obvious he was very well known for being on the stage.
 
Today they claim he did it out of spite for the war ending. Actually, at that time, only Lee had surrendered his forces amounting to about 25% of the army in the field. The majority of the Confederate forces were still in the field in North Carolina under General Johnston and another smaller force was still fighting in Texas. The Confederate government had fled Richmond, yes, but they had re-established operations in Danville, Virginia, not far from where their troops were in North Carolina. The war was far from over in the view of those on the ground.
 
Piece by piece the government's case is shredded until there is only one viable claim left: that Booth shot the President.
 
And then we take a closer look at that claim and realize that it, too, is false.
 
We should not believe what our government passes off as truth because the corruption of the government of the United States is not something new to the world in 1963, it has been growing steadily for quite some time.
 
I know that probably a lot of the researchers into the JFK case have not had a chance to research this other case in much depth but I found it very rewarding and opened my mind to a lot of the things we are seeing in the JFK case. There seem to be more parallels than the simple parlor game would have us notice, like one assassin fled the theater to a warehouse while the other fled the warehouse to a theater, or that both Presidents were succeeded by a Johnson.
 
Eisenschiml was right about it being a conspiracy, just not the one he saw.

The book is The Plot to Kill John Wilkes Booth. If anyone is interested in reading it, let me know.

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Post by Stan Dane on Fri 11 Apr 2014, 8:24 am

terlin wrote:The book is The Plot to Kill John Wilkes Booth. If anyone is interested in reading it, let me know.
Color me interested. Where is the book available? Is it available on Kindle?

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Post by greg parker on Fri 11 Apr 2014, 9:18 am

Stan Dane wrote:
terlin wrote:The book is The Plot to Kill John Wilkes Booth. If anyone is interested in reading it, let me know.
Color me interested. Where is the book available? Is it available on Kindle?
Me too.

If the MO I saw in Bogota, goes back even further, then seeing those details and the evidence would be a very good thing.

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Post by Terry W. Martin on Fri 11 Apr 2014, 10:07 am

greg parker wrote:
Stan Dane wrote:
terlin wrote:The book is The Plot to Kill John Wilkes Booth. If anyone is interested in reading it, let me know.
Color me interested. Where is the book available? Is it available on Kindle?
Me too.

If the MO I saw in Bogota, goes back even further, then seeing those details and the evidence would be a very good thing.


Yes, it is available on kindle at Amazon or at Smashwords for every other format imaginable.

I don't believe the MO in Bogota was at work in the Lincoln assassination. Probably not in the Garfield assassination either - but there might have been even though Guiteau seems to really just be a bit insane. But the Bogota MO seemed apparent in the McKinley assassination. When I read that part of your book it came immediately to mind. And I believe it was during the height of the "spiritualist" movement, though I might have my dates wrong.

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Post by Terry W. Martin on Fri 11 Apr 2014, 10:20 am

Also, I should mention that it is published under a pseudonym (C Fenway Braxton). If kindle is not a good format, you can get a variant version at Smashwords. And I think they even have a kindle version there as well.

https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/204697

Also, just for fun, I have a promo code so you can download it for free:

MZ37P (not case-sensitive)

Let me know if you think it was worth reading. Smile  Smile  Smile

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Post by greg parker on Fri 11 Apr 2014, 10:24 am

Sorry -- didn't mean every aspect....

a patsy
killing patsy asap
rigged inquiry
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By the same token, tho' maybe purely by coincidence, the man charged with finding a conspiracy in the Lincoln case (Olcott) was a member of the Theosophical Society.

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Post by Terry W. Martin on Fri 11 Apr 2014, 11:46 am

greg parker wrote:Sorry -- didn't mean every aspect....

a patsy
killing patsy asap
rigged inquiry
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By the same token, tho' maybe purely by coincidence, the man charged with finding a conspiracy in the Lincoln case (Olcott) was a member of the Theosophical Society.

Got it, not every aspect. Yes, there are many aspects of the JFK killing to be found in the Lincoln case.

Olcott was interesting but mostly just a bean-counter until he ran into "the Blavatsky". Ah, spiritualism, where would we be without you?

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Post by Albert Rossi on Fri 11 Apr 2014, 12:59 pm

Another one for my list, Terlin (or Mr. Braxton!).  I don't know much about the Lincoln assassination, but I remember reading an article when I was in high school (1970-71) from American Heritage magazine which was about the Eisenschiml book, and found it at the time to be quite provocative (I had just read Garrison's A Heritage of Stone, so the idea of another inside job by powerful interests was, as the Italians say, "bread for my teeth").  I have no basis today to say what the problems or inaccuracies with that interpretation were ... but I'm sure your book will educate me!

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Post by Stan Dane on Sat 12 Apr 2014, 8:44 am

Stan Dane wrote:
terlin wrote:The book is The Plot to Kill John Wilkes Booth. If anyone is interested in reading it, let me know.
Color me interested. Where is the book available? Is it available on Kindle?
Terry:
 
I bought The Plot to Kill John Wilkes Booth last night and I'm and enjoying it.
 
As I read this passage:
C. Fenway Braxton wrote:Like a bunch of physicists rushing madly to create a Grand Unified Theory, setting aside any and all anomalies to somehow find their way into the construct later, historians have far too quickly adopted the authorized version of the Lincoln Assassination. Many find the troubling details – though numerous – to be of no consequence in the larger scheme of things.
... I thought of what David Josephs posted today at DPF:
Fez wrote:As we've come to learn, anyone can argue the "against" side of the discussion... Evidence could be created/altered, memories fade, tonsils grow back, scars fade... What can't be argued against is the totality of the evidence…."
See the parallels here?
 
Both talk about a big unified thingy, and then any inconvenient facts—like you are discussing in your book and what Greg has brought forward at DPF—are  disregarded in favor of keeping the Big Grand Poobah Theory intact and alive.
 
Again, I am enjoying your book.
 
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Post by Terry W. Martin on Sat 12 Apr 2014, 10:48 am

Thanks, Stan. It was a lot of fun to write.

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Post by greg parker on Sat 12 Apr 2014, 10:49 am

Stan Dane wrote:
Stan Dane wrote:
terlin wrote:The book is The Plot to Kill John Wilkes Booth. If anyone is interested in reading it, let me know.
Color me interested. Where is the book available? Is it available on Kindle?
Terry:
 
I bought The Plot to Kill John Wilkes Booth last night and I'm and enjoying it.
 
As I read this passage:
C. Fenway Braxton wrote:Like a bunch of physicists rushing madly to create a Grand Unified Theory, setting aside any and all anomalies to somehow find their way into the construct later, historians have far too quickly adopted the authorized version of the Lincoln Assassination. Many find the troubling details – though numerous – to be of no consequence in the larger scheme of things.
... I thought of what David Josephs posted today at DPF:
Fez wrote:As we've come to learn, anyone can argue the "against" side of the discussion... Evidence could be created/altered, memories fade, tonsils grow back, scars fade... What can't be argued against is the totality of the evidence…."
See the parallels here?
 
Both talk about a big unified thingy, and then any inconvenient facts—like you are discussing in your book and what Greg has brought forward at DPF—are  disregarded in favor of keeping the Big Grand Poobah Theory intact and alive.
 
Again, I am enjoying your book.
 
Stan
Funny you should bring that up. I'm addressing it right now.

I haven't got around to getting the book yet, but I intend to. If that one small passage is indicative, the book will have value not just in addressing and clearing the historical detritus in that case which poses as fact, but it will also add to our understanding of the psychological and social factors at play then and remained relevant in other later cases.

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Post by Terry W. Martin on Sat 12 Apr 2014, 12:02 pm

greg parker wrote:Funny you should bring that up. I'm addressing it right now.

I haven't got around to getting the book yet, but I intend to. If that one small passage is indicative, the book will have value not just in addressing and clearing the historical detritus in that case which poses as fact, but it will also add to our understanding of the psychological and social factors at play then and remained relevant in other later cases.


Maybe I mentioned this before but I got into studying the Lincoln assassination because the Kennedy case was just too overwhelming for me. People talked about the similarities of the cases and so I tackled it.

The further I dug, the more similarities I noticed. And I was surprised to see the Kennedy case was using a lot of the same MO's and tactics that were used in the Lincoln case. But I guess they figured, Heck, it worked before!

So I definitely had the JFK case in mind when I wrote it.

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Post by Stan Dane on Wed 16 Apr 2014, 3:34 pm

I finished your book, Terry. Very thought provoking. Your theories are unique and you connect the sparse dots in ways that are quite reasonable. It's easy to follow your thinking.
 
The common themes I see here with the Lincoln and Kennedy assassinations are: quickly find a person (or small group) to blame, complete government control of information and the proceedings, changing stories and accounts in the early days, the need to eliminate the patsies, the strange deaths of many of the players involved, and the need to submit an official story quickly to satisfy the public so everyone can move on.
 
Your writing style is disarmingly light and easy, with notes of humor. A pleasure to read.

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Post by Terry W. Martin on Sun 27 Apr 2014, 10:52 am

Stan Dane wrote:I finished your book, Terry. Very thought provoking. Your theories are unique and you connect the sparse dots in ways that are quite reasonable. It's easy to follow your thinking.
 
The common themes I see here with the Lincoln and Kennedy assassinations are: quickly find a person (or small group) to blame, complete government control of information and the proceedings, changing stories and accounts in the early days, the need to eliminate the patsies, the strange deaths of many of the players involved, and the need to submit an official story quickly to satisfy the public so everyone can move on.
 
Your writing style is disarmingly light and easy, with notes of humor. A pleasure to read.

Well done.


Thanks, Stan  bounce  Glad you liked it. Sorry for the delay in responding but I seem to have missed your post.

And, yes, the parallels between to two cases are a little spooky. Booth even had two wallets (if not three)!!

Hopefully you'll like The Plot to Kill Lee Harvey Oswald coming soon. The case is a lot tougher than the Lincoln case - and I believe the readership is going to be a little more knowledgeable about the case.

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Post by greg parker on Sun 27 Apr 2014, 12:46 pm

terlin wrote:
Stan Dane wrote:I finished your book, Terry. Very thought provoking. Your theories are unique and you connect the sparse dots in ways that are quite reasonable. It's easy to follow your thinking.
 
The common themes I see here with the Lincoln and Kennedy assassinations are: quickly find a person (or small group) to blame, complete government control of information and the proceedings, changing stories and accounts in the early days, the need to eliminate the patsies, the strange deaths of many of the players involved, and the need to submit an official story quickly to satisfy the public so everyone can move on.
 
Your writing style is disarmingly light and easy, with notes of humor. A pleasure to read.

Well done.


Thanks, Stan  bounce  Glad you liked it. Sorry for the delay in responding but I seem to have missed your post.

And, yes, the parallels between to two cases are a little spooky. Booth even had two wallets (if not three)!!

Hopefully you'll like The Plot to Kill Lee Harvey Oswald coming soon. The case is a lot tougher than the Lincoln case - and I believe the readership is going to be a little more knowledgeable about the case.
Mr T, you tell this Braxton bastard to stay the hell out of Oswald. Do I go around publishing books on Wilkes?  No. You tell him that should he proceed, your association with him may see you excommunicated from the Family. That will mean no more Group-Think for you boyo, so you better get this fixed. Just sayin'.

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Post by Terry W. Martin on Sun 27 Apr 2014, 12:54 pm

greg parker wrote:Mr T, you tell this Braxton bastard to stay the hell out of Oswald. Do I go around publishing books on Wilkes?  No. You tell him that should he proceed, your association with him may see you excommunicated from the Family. That will mean no more Group-Think for you boyo, so you better get this fixed. Just sayin'.

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My, a personal attack... on this forum!?

What can I say?

I guess the only answer is that you should write a book on Wilkes? Perhaps call it John and Wilkes... then we can talk about it over on DP forum.

And bring your razor, too.
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Post by greg parker on Sun 27 Apr 2014, 6:28 pm

terlin wrote:
greg parker wrote:Mr T, you tell this Braxton bastard to stay the hell out of Oswald. Do I go around publishing books on Wilkes?  No. You tell him that should he proceed, your association with him may see you excommunicated from the Family. That will mean no more Group-Think for you boyo, so you better get this fixed. Just sayin'.

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My, a personal attack... on this forum!?

What can I say?

I guess the only answer is that you should write a book on Wilkes? Perhaps call it John and Wilkes... then we can talk about it over on DP forum.

And bring your razor, too.
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Post by Terry W. Martin on Sun 27 Apr 2014, 9:47 pm

greg parker wrote:
terlin wrote:
greg parker wrote:Mr T, you tell this Braxton bastard to stay the hell out of Oswald. Do I go around publishing books on Wilkes?  No. You tell him that should he proceed, your association with him may see you excommunicated from the Family. That will mean no more Group-Think for you boyo, so you better get this fixed. Just sayin'.

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My, a personal attack... on this forum!?

What can I say?

I guess the only answer is that you should write a book on Wilkes? Perhaps call it John and Wilkes... then we can talk about it over on DP forum.

And bring your razor, too.
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I am agreeable with that inclusion.

Perhaps we can also have John Surratt sporting the fez he later wears as a Zoauve?

Put it on your calendar for after your Oswald books, then sharpen your razor.

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Post by Albert Rossi on Sun 27 Apr 2014, 11:51 pm

Is Santa a doppelgänger for William of Ockham? (you know, Willie the Ripper ... the one the anti-conspiracists love to invoke).

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Post by Terry W. Martin on Mon 28 Apr 2014, 12:28 am

Albert Rossi wrote:Is Santa a doppelgänger for William of Ockham? (you know, Willie the Ripper ... the one the anti-conspiracists love to invoke).

I don't know. Did Ockhie have a razor in his mitt?

Or maybe two mothers...

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Post by Stan Dane on Mon 28 Apr 2014, 4:42 am

terlin wrote:
"Two thumbs up!"

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Post by greg parker on Mon 28 Apr 2014, 6:45 am

terlin wrote:
Albert Rossi wrote:Is Santa a doppelgänger for William of Ockham? (you know, Willie the Ripper ... the one the anti-conspiracists love to invoke).

I don't know. Did Ockhie have a razor in his mitt?

Or maybe two mothers...

No. And you have 10 penalty points for missing two Cohen quotes. 

Now Santa Claus comes forward,
that's a razor in his mit;
and he puts on his dark glasses
and he shows you where to hit;
and then the cameras pan,
the stand in stunt man,
dress rehearsal rag,
it's just the dress rehearsal rag
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Cohen's scariest and most under-rated album.

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Post by Terry W. Martin on Mon 28 Apr 2014, 10:59 am

greg parker wrote:No. And you have 10 penalty points for missing two Cohen quotes.

Where did the penalty points come from? ...(checking the forum rules again)... Nope, not a word.  That's a bit suspect 

But, yes, I did miss those quotes. Haven't heard those in more years than I care to think about. (not much of an excuse, I know, but its all I got!)

So, how do I get rid of the alleged penalties and... Hey, doesn't giving you first billing on the book cover mean anything!?!

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