One percenter(s) at top of the conspiracy ?

If the conspiracy was of military origin and motivation was is necessary for their to be a financial elite at the top of the pyramid ?

Couldn't it have happened without big money being involved ?

It seems that some researchers have concluded that there must be aa wealthy individual or group such as the suite 8F people behind the assassination.

My money is on David Rockefeller he maneuvered his brother Nelson into VP without an election. At 99 years old he is still pulling strings.

gerrrycam wrote:My money is on David Rockefeller he maneuvered his brother Nelson into VP without an election. At 99 years old he is still pulling strings.

Interesting pick. I haven't looked into him as a true sponsor but I wouldn't put it past him.

MovingMan wrote:If the conspiracy was of military origin and motivation was is necessary for their to be a financial elite at the top of the pyramid ?

There is no bigger financial elite than the military.

(700 billion a year, at last count)...

Couldn't it have happened without big money being involved ?

No.

It seems that some researchers have concluded that there must be aa wealthy individual or group such as the suite 8F people behind the assassination.

The 8F group is indeed interesting. Just as interesting as the little brothel Bobby Baker was apparently running in Georgetown right around the same time.

My take is, there had to have been some very significant money behind and around the assassination. Yes the military was involved, there are documented instances of military transport taking place (including Johnny Roselli, who was flown from Tampa to Dallas allegedly by Tosh Plumlee).

However, there is something important still unsaid... two things at least. First, let us assume that it was indeed a rich Mafioso who finally made it happen - my point would be, the mafia is the only other organization with a long enough reach personnel-wise, to actually make something like this happen. Forget about the "money" even, just think about the people. It's hard to gauge how much of various peoples' stories are true, but if they're only "slightly" embellished - things like Chauncey Holt's description of the fake Secret Service badges, and etc etc. Whoever did this had a lot of clout and connections, and it seems to me that money would logically follow in that kind of world.

Then, secondly, there IS some evidence around money in this thing. The strange amount of 8000 dollars keeps popping up (or 7000, in the case of Jack Ruby and David Ferrie) - but that amount stuck in my mind 'cause I kept seeing it over and over again, so I finally did a little research. Well, it turns out, that 8000 bucks is just about exactly what you get for turning over a kilo of heroin. These guys doing this thing were all over the drug scene, enter Rose Cheramie, we have Loran Hall and William Seymour being busted for amphetamines (and I'll let you research who exactly bailed them out)...

And then, would you consider it likely (or even possible) that Jack Ruby did a little greasing of the DPD before the assassination? Or maybe paid someone off to let him into the basement, maybe? Sure, there had to be money. Lots of it. There had to be a large source of liquid capital. I'm thinking.... Teamster's Pension Fund? (grin)

Jimmy Hoffa would certainly qualify as a "one percenter", would you say? And, he had more money than God, he was practically giving it away to the mob. And he owned the Cabana Motor Lodge (or half of it, anyway)... and there's that story from Ragano... Jimmy would have been a great source of money, considering that he seems to have known better than most how to launder it. And him and Marcello both allegedly gave suitcases full of cash to political candidates, so.... it's hard to guess how much "a lot" means in 1963 dollars, but I'd say there had to be a pretty darn big pool of capital somewhere. (in my humble n00b opinion)