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Hasan Yusuf- Posts : 1899
Join date : 2013-03-13
Age : 36
Location : Melbourne, Victoria, Australia 
Roy Lee Lowery
Thu 11 Aug 2016, 11:34 pm
This is another one of my threads from the frozen Web's forum (more threads to follow when time allows):
Roy Lowery was a detective assigned to the Juvenile Bureau of the DPD. On the morning of November 24, 1963, he was one of many officers assigned to the “security” detail of the DPD basement. I find Lowery suspicious for a number of reasons; one being that he shares the same surname with an FBI informant of (IMO) great importance who was running a shoe store just three blocks away from the Texas Theater when Oswald was arrested (and framed) for Tippit’s murder. Let’s now consider the following.
On November 25, 1963, Gerald Hill (the man whom I wholeheartedly believe framed Oswald inside the Texas Theater by pretending to remove the revolver most likely used to kill Tippit from Oswald during his scuffle with the arresting officers) informed the FBI that after supposedly returning to the DPD on the evening of November 24, 1963, he learned that Lowery and another detective from the Juvenile Bureau named W. J. Cutchshaw claimed that just before Oswald was shot by Jack Ruby in the basement, they recalled three men pushing a camera for “channel 5” through a doorway leading into the basement area; and that both of them were “of the opinion” that Ruby might have been one of the men pushing the camera:
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10405&search=Hill_John+Alexander+Lowery#relPageId=321&tab=page
As I have more or less said before, ANY information provided by Gerald Hill should be considered suspicious. In my essay “Who was behind the assassination?” I provided evidence showing that Hill and Lt. George E. Butler of the Juvenile Bureau were most likely close acquaintances (see under the subheading “Blaming the Jews”). I also provided evidence showing that Butler was likely involved in allowing Ruby into the basement to shoot Oswald. In the thread “My latest essay” at this forum, I discussed the possibility that L.D. Miller and William J. “Blackie” Harrison (both of whom were also detectives in the Juvenile Bureau of the DPD) were involved with Butler in allowing Ruby into the basement to shoot Oswald.
Given my suspicions concerning Hill, Butler, Miller, and Harrison, I don’t believe for a second that it was just a coincidence that Hill named Lowery and Cutchshaw as the two detectives who made the aforementioned claims. During that very same interview with the FBI, Hill claimed that he had contacted a man named Timmon; whom Hill described as being the sound engineer for the channel 5 camera. According to Hill, Timmon told him that the other person “assigned” with him (Timmon) to the camera was a man named John Alexander, and that Timmon “recalled no other individual assisting them in placing the camera in the location before the fatal shot” but that “Timmon said it was very possible that someone else was present and immediately behind them.”
The “Timmon” in question was without much doubt David A. Timmons. But unlike what Hill told the FBI, Timmons was a Producer-Director for WBAP-TV, Channel 5, in Fort Worth, Texas. Timmons told the FBI on November 27, 1963, that the man who was with him and the camera was a John H. Tankersley; who worked for Channel 5 as an engineer. Tankersley confirmed that he was with Timmons during his own interview with the FBI on that very same day; and also during his interview with the DPD in December, 1963:
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10405&search=John_Tankersley#relPageId=152&tab=page
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10405&search=John_Tankersley#relPageId=153&tab=page
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/14/1497-001.gif
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/32/3252-001.gif
In December, 1963, the DPD interviewed Jimmy L. Turner; a TV director at WBAP-TV in Fort Worth, Texas. Turner informed the DPD that he assisted Tankersley and Timmons with their camera after it was brought into the basement. Turner confirmed this when he testified before the Warren Commission on March 25, 1964:
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/14/1492-001.gif
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/14/1492-002.gif
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=47&search=Mr_Turner+Dave+Timmons+and+John+Tankersley#relPageId=144&tab=page
So, according to the statements by Jimmy Turner, David Timmons, and John Tankersley, it was Tankersley who was with Timmons and the camera; not “John Alexander” as Gerald Hill told the FBI it was. I really don’t know where Hill got the name “John Alexander” from, but it certainly seems that he was (once again) lying his big fat arse off. IMO, Hill’s claim that Lowery and Cutchshaw were “of the opinion” that Ruby might have been one of the men pushing the camera with Timmons and Tankersley; and his claim that Timmons told him “it was very possible that someone else was present and immediately behind them” was a lie to divert suspicion away from George Butler (and others) who were the responsible for allowing Ruby into the basement to shoot Oswald.
But what exactly does this have to do with detective Roy Lowery? Well, aside from the fact that Hill named him (and detective Cutchshaw) as someone who expressed the opinion that Ruby might have been the third man pushing the camera with Timmons and Tankersley, let’s consider the following. On December 1, 1963, Lowery was interviewed by Lt. C.C. Wallace and P. G. McCaghren of the DPD concerning the shooting of Oswald. According to their report on the interview, Lowery claimed that one of the men pushing the “channel 5” camera was “later identified as John Alexander, w/m/39.” He also told the FBI he “recalled” that one of the men was named John Alexander:
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/31/3168-002.gif
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/31/3168-001.gif
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/31/3167-001.gif
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10488&search=John_Alexander#relPageId=179&tab=page
Now, isn’t it interesting how Lowery named the man “John Alexander” just as Hill did during his interview with the FBI; even though the man’s name was actually John H. Tankersley? IMO, this is a clue that Hill and Lowery were in cahoots with each other. I mean, what are the odds that they both misremembered his name as being “John Alexander?” When detective Cutchshaw testified before the Warren Commission, he also remarked that he thought that the man’s name was John Alexander (see the link below). However, I think we have already established that this was not true. What’s also interesting is that when Lowery testified before the Warren Commission, he was asked who his “immediate superior” was in the DPD. Lowery remarked that it was Captain Frank Martin:
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=7795&search=Mr_Lowery+immediate+superior#relPageId=282&tab=page
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=7795&search=John_Alexander#relPageId=226&tab=page
According to the DPD personnel assignments booklet for November, 1963, there were three Lieutenants working under Martin; one of whom was George Butler:
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11457&search=George_Butler+Roy+Lee+Lowery#relPageId=34&tab=page
Since it doesn’t appear that Lowery was promoted to Lieutenant by the time he testified before the Warren Commission on March 25, 1964 (as he was simply referred to as detective during his testimony and didn’t state that he was a Lieutenant) I don’t see how Martin could have been his “immediate superior.” Was Lowery trying to conceal from the Warren Commission that Butler was his immediate superior? I can’t prove it, but I’d bet my undies that he was.
When Lowery was interviewed by FBI agent James Bookhout following the shooting of Oswald, he remarked that he “was of the opinion Jack Leon Ruby probably entered pertinent area under the pretext of being with the above mentioned Channel 5 Television newsmen.”
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=56994&search=Roy_Lee+Lowery+James+Bookhout#relPageId=108&tab=page
So where was Lowery in relation to Oswald when Ruby shot him? Although I don’t think this is very important, let’s nevertheless take a look. When Lowery testified before the Warren Commission, he indicated his position as being at the corner of the brick wall to Oswald’s right just as Ruby shot him. He even claimed that he was “leaning back against the corner.”
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh20/pdf/WH20_Lowery_Ex_5084.pdf
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=7795&search=Mr_Lowery+corner+shoulder+blades#relPageId=284&tab=page
Lowery’s position was confirmed by detective Billy H. Combest; who was standing to Lowery’s immediate left. Combest told the Warren Commission that Lowery was standing “Right at the corner.”
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=7795&search=Mr_Combest+Right+at+the+corner#relPageId=191&tab=page
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/pdf/WH19_Combest_Ex_5100.pdf
In the following footage of Oswald being shot by Ruby, we can see Lowery at the corner of the brick wall (left of the camera) watching with his hands clasped in front of his lap as Oswald is escorted by Jim Leavelle and L. C. Graves:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6PcVCqg3tg
You can see Lowery’s face just over Leavelle’s right shoulder at the moment Oswald is shot. Now maybe it’s just me, but Lowery doesn’t seem too startled or concerned that Oswald has been shot. I ask that anyone interested in this discussion view the footage several times and judge Lowery’s behaviour/actions for themselves. Of course, if Lowery knew Oswald was going to be shot, it’s not like he could just stand around and do absolutely nothing; as he surely would have thought it would make him look suspicious.
The bottom line for me is that Hill and Lowery (and Cutchshaw) were probably in cahoots to conceal the involvement of George Butler (and others) in allowing Ruby into the basement to shoot Oswald. I also think that both Hill and Lowery had foreknowledge that Ruby was going to shoot Oswald. As researchers such as Greg Parker, Lee Farley, and myself have discussed, FBI super snitch, William James Lowery, was running a shoe store just three blocks away from the Texas Theater when Oswald was supposedly seen by Johnny Calvin Brewer acting like he was trying to avoid the DPD squad cars passing by his (Brewer’s) shoe store. I don’t believe this was a coincidence. See the following threads for why I say that:
http://www.reopenkennedycase.org/apps/forums/topics/show/13316841-brewer-s-ibm-friends?page=1
https://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t419-william-james-lowery-james-patrick-hosty-and-lee-oswald
I would also be willing to wager that William James Lowery and Roy Lee Lowery were blood related. Any help in trying to verify this would be greatly appreciated.
Roy Lowery was a detective assigned to the Juvenile Bureau of the DPD. On the morning of November 24, 1963, he was one of many officers assigned to the “security” detail of the DPD basement. I find Lowery suspicious for a number of reasons; one being that he shares the same surname with an FBI informant of (IMO) great importance who was running a shoe store just three blocks away from the Texas Theater when Oswald was arrested (and framed) for Tippit’s murder. Let’s now consider the following.
On November 25, 1963, Gerald Hill (the man whom I wholeheartedly believe framed Oswald inside the Texas Theater by pretending to remove the revolver most likely used to kill Tippit from Oswald during his scuffle with the arresting officers) informed the FBI that after supposedly returning to the DPD on the evening of November 24, 1963, he learned that Lowery and another detective from the Juvenile Bureau named W. J. Cutchshaw claimed that just before Oswald was shot by Jack Ruby in the basement, they recalled three men pushing a camera for “channel 5” through a doorway leading into the basement area; and that both of them were “of the opinion” that Ruby might have been one of the men pushing the camera:
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10405&search=Hill_John+Alexander+Lowery#relPageId=321&tab=page
As I have more or less said before, ANY information provided by Gerald Hill should be considered suspicious. In my essay “Who was behind the assassination?” I provided evidence showing that Hill and Lt. George E. Butler of the Juvenile Bureau were most likely close acquaintances (see under the subheading “Blaming the Jews”). I also provided evidence showing that Butler was likely involved in allowing Ruby into the basement to shoot Oswald. In the thread “My latest essay” at this forum, I discussed the possibility that L.D. Miller and William J. “Blackie” Harrison (both of whom were also detectives in the Juvenile Bureau of the DPD) were involved with Butler in allowing Ruby into the basement to shoot Oswald.
Given my suspicions concerning Hill, Butler, Miller, and Harrison, I don’t believe for a second that it was just a coincidence that Hill named Lowery and Cutchshaw as the two detectives who made the aforementioned claims. During that very same interview with the FBI, Hill claimed that he had contacted a man named Timmon; whom Hill described as being the sound engineer for the channel 5 camera. According to Hill, Timmon told him that the other person “assigned” with him (Timmon) to the camera was a man named John Alexander, and that Timmon “recalled no other individual assisting them in placing the camera in the location before the fatal shot” but that “Timmon said it was very possible that someone else was present and immediately behind them.”
The “Timmon” in question was without much doubt David A. Timmons. But unlike what Hill told the FBI, Timmons was a Producer-Director for WBAP-TV, Channel 5, in Fort Worth, Texas. Timmons told the FBI on November 27, 1963, that the man who was with him and the camera was a John H. Tankersley; who worked for Channel 5 as an engineer. Tankersley confirmed that he was with Timmons during his own interview with the FBI on that very same day; and also during his interview with the DPD in December, 1963:
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10405&search=John_Tankersley#relPageId=152&tab=page
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10405&search=John_Tankersley#relPageId=153&tab=page
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/14/1497-001.gif
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/32/3252-001.gif
In December, 1963, the DPD interviewed Jimmy L. Turner; a TV director at WBAP-TV in Fort Worth, Texas. Turner informed the DPD that he assisted Tankersley and Timmons with their camera after it was brought into the basement. Turner confirmed this when he testified before the Warren Commission on March 25, 1964:
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/14/1492-001.gif
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/14/1492-002.gif
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=47&search=Mr_Turner+Dave+Timmons+and+John+Tankersley#relPageId=144&tab=page
So, according to the statements by Jimmy Turner, David Timmons, and John Tankersley, it was Tankersley who was with Timmons and the camera; not “John Alexander” as Gerald Hill told the FBI it was. I really don’t know where Hill got the name “John Alexander” from, but it certainly seems that he was (once again) lying his big fat arse off. IMO, Hill’s claim that Lowery and Cutchshaw were “of the opinion” that Ruby might have been one of the men pushing the camera with Timmons and Tankersley; and his claim that Timmons told him “it was very possible that someone else was present and immediately behind them” was a lie to divert suspicion away from George Butler (and others) who were the responsible for allowing Ruby into the basement to shoot Oswald.
But what exactly does this have to do with detective Roy Lowery? Well, aside from the fact that Hill named him (and detective Cutchshaw) as someone who expressed the opinion that Ruby might have been the third man pushing the camera with Timmons and Tankersley, let’s consider the following. On December 1, 1963, Lowery was interviewed by Lt. C.C. Wallace and P. G. McCaghren of the DPD concerning the shooting of Oswald. According to their report on the interview, Lowery claimed that one of the men pushing the “channel 5” camera was “later identified as John Alexander, w/m/39.” He also told the FBI he “recalled” that one of the men was named John Alexander:
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/31/3168-002.gif
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/31/3168-001.gif
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/31/3167-001.gif
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10488&search=John_Alexander#relPageId=179&tab=page
Now, isn’t it interesting how Lowery named the man “John Alexander” just as Hill did during his interview with the FBI; even though the man’s name was actually John H. Tankersley? IMO, this is a clue that Hill and Lowery were in cahoots with each other. I mean, what are the odds that they both misremembered his name as being “John Alexander?” When detective Cutchshaw testified before the Warren Commission, he also remarked that he thought that the man’s name was John Alexander (see the link below). However, I think we have already established that this was not true. What’s also interesting is that when Lowery testified before the Warren Commission, he was asked who his “immediate superior” was in the DPD. Lowery remarked that it was Captain Frank Martin:
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=7795&search=Mr_Lowery+immediate+superior#relPageId=282&tab=page
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=7795&search=John_Alexander#relPageId=226&tab=page
According to the DPD personnel assignments booklet for November, 1963, there were three Lieutenants working under Martin; one of whom was George Butler:
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11457&search=George_Butler+Roy+Lee+Lowery#relPageId=34&tab=page
Since it doesn’t appear that Lowery was promoted to Lieutenant by the time he testified before the Warren Commission on March 25, 1964 (as he was simply referred to as detective during his testimony and didn’t state that he was a Lieutenant) I don’t see how Martin could have been his “immediate superior.” Was Lowery trying to conceal from the Warren Commission that Butler was his immediate superior? I can’t prove it, but I’d bet my undies that he was.
When Lowery was interviewed by FBI agent James Bookhout following the shooting of Oswald, he remarked that he “was of the opinion Jack Leon Ruby probably entered pertinent area under the pretext of being with the above mentioned Channel 5 Television newsmen.”
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=56994&search=Roy_Lee+Lowery+James+Bookhout#relPageId=108&tab=page
So where was Lowery in relation to Oswald when Ruby shot him? Although I don’t think this is very important, let’s nevertheless take a look. When Lowery testified before the Warren Commission, he indicated his position as being at the corner of the brick wall to Oswald’s right just as Ruby shot him. He even claimed that he was “leaning back against the corner.”
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh20/pdf/WH20_Lowery_Ex_5084.pdf
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=7795&search=Mr_Lowery+corner+shoulder+blades#relPageId=284&tab=page
Lowery’s position was confirmed by detective Billy H. Combest; who was standing to Lowery’s immediate left. Combest told the Warren Commission that Lowery was standing “Right at the corner.”
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=7795&search=Mr_Combest+Right+at+the+corner#relPageId=191&tab=page
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/pdf/WH19_Combest_Ex_5100.pdf
In the following footage of Oswald being shot by Ruby, we can see Lowery at the corner of the brick wall (left of the camera) watching with his hands clasped in front of his lap as Oswald is escorted by Jim Leavelle and L. C. Graves:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6PcVCqg3tg
You can see Lowery’s face just over Leavelle’s right shoulder at the moment Oswald is shot. Now maybe it’s just me, but Lowery doesn’t seem too startled or concerned that Oswald has been shot. I ask that anyone interested in this discussion view the footage several times and judge Lowery’s behaviour/actions for themselves. Of course, if Lowery knew Oswald was going to be shot, it’s not like he could just stand around and do absolutely nothing; as he surely would have thought it would make him look suspicious.
The bottom line for me is that Hill and Lowery (and Cutchshaw) were probably in cahoots to conceal the involvement of George Butler (and others) in allowing Ruby into the basement to shoot Oswald. I also think that both Hill and Lowery had foreknowledge that Ruby was going to shoot Oswald. As researchers such as Greg Parker, Lee Farley, and myself have discussed, FBI super snitch, William James Lowery, was running a shoe store just three blocks away from the Texas Theater when Oswald was supposedly seen by Johnny Calvin Brewer acting like he was trying to avoid the DPD squad cars passing by his (Brewer’s) shoe store. I don’t believe this was a coincidence. See the following threads for why I say that:
http://www.reopenkennedycase.org/apps/forums/topics/show/13316841-brewer-s-ibm-friends?page=1
https://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t419-william-james-lowery-james-patrick-hosty-and-lee-oswald
I would also be willing to wager that William James Lowery and Roy Lee Lowery were blood related. Any help in trying to verify this would be greatly appreciated.
- Hasan Yusuf
- Posts : 1899
Join date : 2013-03-13
Age : 36
Location : Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Re: Roy Lee Lowery
Thu 11 Aug 2016, 11:36 pm
Wasn’t sure whether I should post the following here or in the “Brewer’s IBM friends” thread, but I decided to post it here. In the “Brewer’s IBM friends” thread, I mentioned the possibility that Bill DeMar (the master of ceremonies at the Carousel Club who was involved in hypnosis) was used to hypnotise Jack Ruby to shoot Oswald:
http://www.reopenkennedycase.org/apps/forums/topics/show/13316841-brewer-s-ibm-friends?page=1
As Greg pointed out in that thread, the U.S. Army used stage hypnotists as part of their mind control experiments/research. He also pointed out that he verified by contacting DeMar that he (DeMar) used hypnosis as part of his acts. With this in mind, I have been thinking that it is entirely possible that the two car horns we hear just before Ruby shoots Oswald were used to “trigger” Ruby into committing the deed once he was inside the basement. In the following footage, we hear the first sound of a car horn just as Oswald comes out of the doorway. The second sound of a car horn (by my estimation) can be heard slightly after Ruby makes his move towards Oswald:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6PcVCqg3tg
If the first one was used to “trigger” Ruby, perhaps the second one was used because Charles N. Dhority (the DPD homicide detective who was honking the horn) was concerned that the first one didn’t “trigger” Ruby. Captain Fritz had sent Dhority down to the basement to back his (Fritz’s) car into position to place Oswald inside so they could escort him to the County jail:
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/09/0920-001.gif
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/09/0920-002.gif
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10488&search=Charles_N+Dhority#relPageId=125&tab=page
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=41&search=Mr_Dhority+move+Oswald+down+to+the+county+jail+in#relPageId=165&tab=page
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=51&search=Mr_Fritz+Dhority+was+sitting+at+the+wheel#relPageId=161&tab=page
[url=http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg Subject Index Files/K Disk/Kantor Seth/Item 07.pdf]http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/K%20Disk/Kantor%20Seth/Item%2007.pdf[/url]
As I have discussed elsewhere, there is good reason to believe that individuals either directly or indirectly connected to Army intelligence/counter-intelligence and the 112th MIG were involved in the assassination. According to the following records, Dhority had served in the Army during World War II (he told the Warren Commission that he was born in August 1923 at Tuscumbia, Alabama):
http://www.ww2enlistment.org/index.php?page=directory&rec=1501086
http://www.ww2enlistment.org/index.php?page=directory&rec=1501086&do=ab
https://www.fold3.com/page/84779611_charles_n_dhority/
http://wwii-army.mooseroots.com/l/1701729/Charles-N-Dhority
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?
docId=41&search=Mr_Dhority+Tuscumbia+Ala+in+August+1923#relPageId=160&tab=page
During an interview, Jack Alston Crichton (whom I suspect was quite possibly involved in the assassination) once remarked that there were about forty or fifty men in his 488th Military intelligence detachment who were from the DPD:
http://spartacus-educational.com/MDcrichton.htm
Although I can’t prove it (yet), I’ll bet Dhority was a member of the 488th Military intelligence detachment. According to the following information on Captain Fritz, he “served a brief stint in the army during World War I.”
https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/ffr24
Therefore, it’s possible that Fritz was also a member of the 488th Military intelligence detachment after it was established in 1956. IMO, Fritz probably told Dhority to honk the horn of the car after he (Dhority) saw Fritz moving towards the car in order to “trigger” Ruby’s post hypnotic suggestion to shoot Oswald. I don’t think I will ever be able to prove it, but this is where I currently stand. Dhority was one of the officers who accompanied Oswald to Parkland Hospital after he was shot. If Dhority was involved in the plot to kill Oswald, then perhaps it was also his job to somehow see to it that Oswald didn’t survive his bullet wound.
http://www.reopenkennedycase.org/apps/forums/topics/show/13316841-brewer-s-ibm-friends?page=1
As Greg pointed out in that thread, the U.S. Army used stage hypnotists as part of their mind control experiments/research. He also pointed out that he verified by contacting DeMar that he (DeMar) used hypnosis as part of his acts. With this in mind, I have been thinking that it is entirely possible that the two car horns we hear just before Ruby shoots Oswald were used to “trigger” Ruby into committing the deed once he was inside the basement. In the following footage, we hear the first sound of a car horn just as Oswald comes out of the doorway. The second sound of a car horn (by my estimation) can be heard slightly after Ruby makes his move towards Oswald:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6PcVCqg3tg
If the first one was used to “trigger” Ruby, perhaps the second one was used because Charles N. Dhority (the DPD homicide detective who was honking the horn) was concerned that the first one didn’t “trigger” Ruby. Captain Fritz had sent Dhority down to the basement to back his (Fritz’s) car into position to place Oswald inside so they could escort him to the County jail:
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/09/0920-001.gif
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/09/0920-002.gif
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10488&search=Charles_N+Dhority#relPageId=125&tab=page
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=41&search=Mr_Dhority+move+Oswald+down+to+the+county+jail+in#relPageId=165&tab=page
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=51&search=Mr_Fritz+Dhority+was+sitting+at+the+wheel#relPageId=161&tab=page
[url=http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg Subject Index Files/K Disk/Kantor Seth/Item 07.pdf]http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/K%20Disk/Kantor%20Seth/Item%2007.pdf[/url]
As I have discussed elsewhere, there is good reason to believe that individuals either directly or indirectly connected to Army intelligence/counter-intelligence and the 112th MIG were involved in the assassination. According to the following records, Dhority had served in the Army during World War II (he told the Warren Commission that he was born in August 1923 at Tuscumbia, Alabama):
http://www.ww2enlistment.org/index.php?page=directory&rec=1501086
http://www.ww2enlistment.org/index.php?page=directory&rec=1501086&do=ab
https://www.fold3.com/page/84779611_charles_n_dhority/
http://wwii-army.mooseroots.com/l/1701729/Charles-N-Dhority
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?
docId=41&search=Mr_Dhority+Tuscumbia+Ala+in+August+1923#relPageId=160&tab=page
During an interview, Jack Alston Crichton (whom I suspect was quite possibly involved in the assassination) once remarked that there were about forty or fifty men in his 488th Military intelligence detachment who were from the DPD:
http://spartacus-educational.com/MDcrichton.htm
Although I can’t prove it (yet), I’ll bet Dhority was a member of the 488th Military intelligence detachment. According to the following information on Captain Fritz, he “served a brief stint in the army during World War I.”
https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/ffr24
Therefore, it’s possible that Fritz was also a member of the 488th Military intelligence detachment after it was established in 1956. IMO, Fritz probably told Dhority to honk the horn of the car after he (Dhority) saw Fritz moving towards the car in order to “trigger” Ruby’s post hypnotic suggestion to shoot Oswald. I don’t think I will ever be able to prove it, but this is where I currently stand. Dhority was one of the officers who accompanied Oswald to Parkland Hospital after he was shot. If Dhority was involved in the plot to kill Oswald, then perhaps it was also his job to somehow see to it that Oswald didn’t survive his bullet wound.
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