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Mon 21 Nov 2016, 10:29 pm
Why no Texas Man Hunt?

What happened to the canine Units?

Between 12:30-12:34 on channel 2 of the radio logs we hear this:

4 (Deputy Chief of Police N.T. Fisher) "We have those canine units in that vicinity, don't we?"

and there is this from the transcript:

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Whom could keep these K9 units at bay?

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Dallas Police: The Manufacture of Confusion, by Jerry D. Rose
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Tue 22 Nov 2016, 8:29 pm
C F Bentley Jr did not ever go get his K9. that day.
He met Paul Bentley at the Texas Theater, hit Oswald with butt of a shotgun, then dropped of the car and gun and went home as he had been off duty buying a tv on Jefferson when JFK was shot.

Paul said CF was his nephew and LC Graves his brother in law,
and here is CF Bentley Jr. thanks to Bill Drenas for this.

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Again he went and got a car and a gun from the substation but never got his canine. Ripple was his dog seen here.
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Thu 24 Nov 2016, 3:58 pm
A Brief History of the Dallas Police Department Canine Squad

The Dallas Police Department Canine Squad was formed in 1961. Sergeant Galen B. Richcreek and 2 Patrolman, S.E. Norman and C.F. Bentley, Jr. were selected from over 200 volunteers, to become the first Canine Handlers in the Dallas Police Department.
The Police Department purchased the dogs from a canine academy in Brighton, Missouri. The handlers were sent to Missouri for two weeks of training with their dogs. The dogs were trained in obedience, attack, and tracking. Upon their arrival back in Dallas, they were assigned to the Special Enforcement Detail. They worked primarily alone in high crime areas of the city. In 1969, the squad was expanded to 9 dog teams. Each handler and dog was assigned to a Tactical Squad and was supervised by the Squad Sergeant.
In 1971, the Canine Squad was formed as a separate squad with its own supervisor. The squad was still assigned to the Special Enforcement Detail, also known as “Holloway's Raiders.”



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In 1961, Rivers went to Brighton, Mo. to get the first police dogs the Meridian Police Department used.
"I stayed in the German community in Brighton for two or three weeks," Rivers said. "The wife of the man who had the training school cooked all German food. For weeks, I ate and slept German. We had two police dogs. My dog's name was Tiger. Lester Joyner's dog's name was Bob."


Heinz M. Nawroth, owner and chief trainer for a Brighton, Mo., company, told the officers that police dogs have been used effectively for more than 100 years, but noted their use is relatively new in Nebraska. Speaking at the Nebraska Center for Continuing Educations, Nawroth told the officials a dog has a far greater psychological effect on criminals than does a badge. Citing an example, Nawroth said today's kids are tomorrow's potential juvenile delinquents and this can best be avoided if youths have greater respect for police power. "Such power," he commented, "can be shown no more effectively than with a police dog." Like Gun The expert on canine behavior likened a police dog to an officer's gun, but added Officer Andy Davis and police dog square off. with a grin that dog is a gun that -shoots around corners. Nawroth says his school lias trained more than 256 animals which are being used on some 42 police departments throughout the Midwest including Omaha which has 6 and reportedly to add 6 more.   who will be his handler -Lincoln Evening Journal Lincoln, Nebraska:Thursday, July 27, 1961.Page:Page 12
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Thu 24 Nov 2016, 7:33 pm
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One can safely say DPD had much need of canine units that day yet failed to execute due to unknown reasons , Williams winds up at 400 W Jefferson, and then is sent to Jefferson & Marsalis for the Library Raid.
Capt. Talbert sends Norman to the Texas Theater, yet seconds later dispatcher has him going to the TSBD the very place his Captain just said he was not needed.
The canine cops are a cluster, CF goes and grabs a car but no dog... ends up at Texas Theater all on his own to help uncle Paul beat the crap out of Oswald or worse and afterward CF heads home to relax for the rest of his day off.

Nothing about using the canines are mentioned again by DPD till 2:03.
Then it is Dispatcher Henslee sending two "DOG OFFICERS"  to Parkland command post.
It never specifies if these "Dog Officers" actually have dogs with them by 2:00pm.  but its doubtful.

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Curry, who served as police chief from 1960 to 1966, spent years waking up in the middle of the night and replaying the events from those few days.
James Ewell, who covered police for The Dallas Morning News during the assassination, said the assassination visibly changed the man who was both a source and friend. Ewell described the chief as likable and good-natured. He said he was a favorite among reporters for his open-door media policy and demeanor. Curry even allowed reporters to call him at home once he left for the day.
“I’m not sure that any of us are the same — [those] who were around the police stations,” Ewell said. “There was definitely a change in Jesse. He felt the crush of the world on him because he lost Lee Harvey Oswald in the basement of his own building.”
Ewell said Curry’s young daughter Cathey was well-known to those who spent a lot of time at the police department. “I was involved with their families,” he said. “I knew a lot about their personal lives. And that was true with Jesse Curry, because Cathey was up there.”
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Cathey Tresp never liked to talk about the assassination with her father. It didn’t make sense that a few tragic days would overshadow her dad’s good-hearted nature. She still recalls how he once took her to help pick out the first dogs for the Dallas Police Department Canine Squad. An animal lover, she still remembers the dogs she selected.

She picked Ripple??


"K9  C O R P S Three Dogs Join Dallas Police Dept. DALLAS. TX-- Rebel, Ripple and Rex
If they prove e f f e c t i v e Police Chief Jesse Curry announced that the K-9 Corps will be increased. The three dogs arrived in Dal!as, Friday night with their three masters and a f t e r a weeks indoctrination will go to work guarding the city at night . Sgt. G. R. Richcreek w i t h Rex lives in Northwest Dallas. C. F. Bentlev w i t h Ripple lives in Oak Calif, w h i l e S. R. Oman will keep his dog at his home together w i t h a modified squad car w i t h cages in the back to carry the dogs."
- September 25, 1961The Corpus Christi Caller-Times from Corpus Christi, Texas · Page 25


Okay, using them on night patrol makes sense, but so does suspect tracking for which they were trained by a "German" in Brighton Missouri for two weeks, German whom espoused using these dogs to scare youth into submission. 
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Thu 24 Nov 2016, 8:20 pm
Lets see if they tie in to Nazis and Germany


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The entire, jaw-dropping article reads as follows:
“Happy” and “Rebel,” charter members of the Vicksburg Police Department’s canine corps, are making the Jackson Police Department’s orders to racial demonstrators more meaningful.
The two 100-pound German Shephards were placed at the disposal of local police after racial demonstrations at the Jackson City Library Monday.
Since their arrival Tuesday, the animals have spearheaded the disbursement of two major Negro demonstrations.
The dogs have digested well the law enforcement and riot control tactics which were sometimes drummed into their thick skulls at a Springfield, Mo., police dog training academy.
Most important, however, is the fact that they are affectionately dedicated to obey swiftly and efficiently the commands given them by their handlers, patrolmen Ed Reel and James Terry.
Reed and “Happy,” Terry and “Rebel” are bound together by constant companionship and affection. Wherever they go, they go together; whatever they do, they do together.
At night, man and animal share the same dangers as they patrol Vicksburg’s dark alleys and maintain constant vigilance against disorder.
By day, however, when the heavy leather harnesses are removed, the dogs become equally dedicated to their handlers’ family.
Harry Nawroth of Springfield, the former Nazi storm trooper who trained killer Dobermans to guard Hitler’s airports, trained both “Happy” and “Rebel.” He cautioned both Reed and Terry never to beat their wives or spank their children in front of the dogs because the animals would turn on the very men who direct them.
Nawroth has trained more thaan 23,000 dogs of all breeds during his lifetime so he ought to know. Both handlers have a very peaceful home life.
“Happy,” the black dog, joined the Vicksburg Police Department in late December after completing the rigorous 16-week course in Springfield.
On his first night in Vicksburg, the dog tracked a Negro to his rural dwelling in Bovina more than a mile away from the store he had burglarized five hours before the dog arrived on the scene.
Between loans to other law-enforcement agencies throughout the state, the dogs are dispatched by Police Chief Murray Sills to patrol trouble spots from dusk until dawn. Since the dogs have been frequenting Vicksburg taverns, violence has been almost non-existent, prowlers have stopped prowling, and resident are sleeping much easier.
“Rebel,” the lighter dog, joined the Vicksburg force in February and has been used almost exclusively for patrol.
This article was clipped and filed by the State Sovereignty Commission. See a scan of the original article here.

The archival news photo on pages 4-5 in Breach of Peace shows two German Shepherds along with a number of police watching the first bus of Freedom Riders arrive in Jackson. They may be Happy and Rebel.


So Harry is the Father of Heinz, or he is Heinz M. Nawroth...
or
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dayton/obituary.aspx?pid=151727460

Anyway Heinz is the Hitlers SS airport doberman trainer...

"Nazi Trained Dogs Being Used By Miss. Cops"
JACKSON. Miss. L The NAACP
revealed this week that the snarl
ing Germah police dogs, now “on
duty” with the local police force,
were trained by a former Nazi
storm trooper.
They were* signaled to ferocious
action last week, attacking a peace
ful group of Negro citizens quiet
ly standing outside the city’s
courthouse.
Harry Nawroth, trained famous
Doberman pinschers to guard Hit
ler’s airport. He has trainpd more
than 25,00 dogs of all breeds dur
ing his lifetime.


Wow.
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Thu 24 Nov 2016, 8:41 pm
NAWROTH, HARRY O. was born 12 September 1927, received Social Security number 292-14-7151 (indicating Ohio) and, Death Master File says, died 08 June 2011 350745
Check the source file (free) and then check Archives for HARRY NAWROTH.

NAWROTH, HEINZ was born 02 September 1920, received Social Security number 298-07-8161 (indicating Ohio) and, Death Master File says, died September 1982 350746
Check the source file (free) and then check Archives for HEINZ NAWROTH.

NAWROTH, HEINZ was born 30 January 1919, received Social Security number 509-40-1760 (indicating Kansas) and, Death Master File says, died June 1985 350747


'Harry O' was the writer from Ohio, I posted the link to his obit above in another post.
Then one Heinz would be his brother from Ohio, the other a Kansas born Heinz.


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Thu 24 Nov 2016, 11:04 pm
Ed, this has gone from mildly curious, to goddamn!!!

It would also have to be about the most unusual lead to follow in this whole case - and that's saying something.

Okay so what do have?  Seems the dog were solely for the control of the Black community?

Maybe they were called in because of at least two witnesses claiming a Black man on the 6th floor, Euins and Rowland? Or because of Craig's description of a possible getaway driver?

Shaking my head, Ed. Incredible research.

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Fri 25 Nov 2016, 2:50 pm
I get hints of that and more undertones Greg.
Seems right wing demonstrators like those whom took out Adlai Stevenson or were picketing outside the Trade-Mart were immune to the canine unit.
Youth, especially blacks were targeted by the squad. Their later folding into a tactical unit of Holloways Raiders is telling about their use.
We know the dogs were used in searches and trained in tracking. Dallas used them for crowd control as seen by the call for them at Parkland command post.
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Pic of DPD from late sixties(?)

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here's for sticking with me Greg!

This dog can hunt,
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Harry's Work Dog Co. of Brighton, Mo., has signed the contract for the dog. A handler will also be trained by the company, ...


Dogs to Assist in Police Work . D UKE von Harrisburg and four other German shepherd dogs will begin police handler training Monday morning at Shawnee-Mission East high school. Two of the dogs will be handled by Detective Bill Weinberg and Patrolman Ralph Staples of the Johnson County sheriff’s office. dogs will be delivered in three weeks. Their handlers have not yet been selected. The shepherds, which have gone through four months of intensive training at Brighton, Mo., will face a 3-man board after the three weeks of handler training to test their reliability and ability to operate safely in public. At Brighton the dogs, all The other dogs will be han- hand picked, are trained for died by two officers from the Independence police department and the Harrisonville city marshal. Weinberg and Staples are the first of the four members of the Johnson County sheriff’s office who will learn to use dogs. Two other police work by a former World War II German paratrooper, Heinz Nawroth, who drills the animals in disarming criminals, retrieving guns, searching buildings, training .by sense of smell and guarding prisoners. Weinberg, who suggested the use of dogs to Lynn Thomas, sheriff, about six months ago, bought Duke von Harrisburg from Naw­ roth, but will use the dog for police work. The other three dogs to be used by the sheriff’s office, were donated by Johnson County residents. “The dogs are not taught to kill,” Weinberg said. “On command, they will attack moving parts of the body, like arms and legs. The animals will answer hand as well as voice signals. One thing that is stressed is that these dogs are absoluteley safe while walking with their handlers in public.-
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The Kansas City Times from Kansas City, Missouri · Page 46


Interesting he was a PARATROOPER and worked with canines,?
They did have elite squads like our seals whom jumped with dogs, Canine Parachute squads, wonder if he was in the German equivalent
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Saving Lives, Trapping Prowlers, Identifying Suspects Picture ON DUTY the handsome dogs wear this cornered suspects. The harness also has a red , harness and equipment. They work only at light enabling officers to keep track of the night, and the equipment includes a flashlight dogs when they are released in a building. This They are trained to keep this light beamed on alert member of the force is Barron. PUT A ONE-MAN dog into a one-man patrol car and you make the policeman feel "12 feet tall with an arm 22 feet long." "We could hang up our guns. We don't need them any more," This summarizes the enthusiasm of Sioux City's four-man Canine Patrol toward the four German shepherds donated by interested citizens to the police department since November. In only a few weeks the dogs' file of accomplishments began to grow. White riding in a patrol car past a snow bank, one dog wouldn't stop whining until his puzzled master finally got out of the car and peered over the bank. There lay an elderly man in sub-zero cold, his leg broken in a fall. The man surely would have frozen to death if the dog, somehow, had not detected him. BRAWLERS DON'T CONSIDER DOG THEUt BEST FRIEND Police suspected a thief was in a major department store, but they couldn't locate him. A police dog was turned loose in the store. The dog found the man, cleverly hidden under stacks of clothing on a display table. A police officer had to quell a tavern brawl involving about 30 men. He lined them against a wall, where they suddenly became very meek as the officer's police dog eyed them. Two prowlers, surprised in a filling station break-in, fled into a storm sewer tunnel A police dog on a 22-foot leash trailed the pair for six blocks over huge ice blocks that leaned on each other like dominoes. Suddenly the dog snarled and stopped. He had detected that the prowlers were bidding under the lip of the next ice block. A man would have gone right over them. Police were unable to connect an arrested girl with a stolen car. But a police dog sniffed the car, then three girls. He snarled at one of them. He had picked correctly the girl admitted the theft " we had to choose between our gun or dog, we'd take the dog," says Patrolman Boyd Spaulding, leader of the Canine Patrol. His dog is "Barron", HE BARKS TO SHOW HOW TOUGH HE IS Others on the roster are Patrolman James Desmond and "Buddy"; Patrolman Harry Martin and "Kelly," and Patrolman William Peterson and "Rex". Buddy and Rex are considered rookies because they came to the force later than Barron and Kelly. Officer Martin is credited with arousing interest in the dog program. The dogs are almost identical in training, but have differing personalities. Barron for example, has taken to barking too much, drawing severe reprimands from Spaulding. "That's his one bad habit," Spaulding said. "He has to bark to tell everyone how tough he is." Rex is still a little "puppyish," while Buddy is considered "aggressive." Kelly is considered a fine all-around specimen. DOGS NOT USED TO CONTROL CROWDS All came from Harry's Work Dog Co., Brighton, Mo. But the men, as well as the dogs, were hand-picked by a company representative who questioned 23 volunteers for police dog duty. One question was, "If a known felon were running away and you couldn't catch him, would you shoot?" "Yes" was the right answer, because a man who would shoot is a man who also would release his dog to catch the criminal, Spaulding explained. Instead of the traditional warning "Stop! Or I'll Shoot!"-the Canine Patrol has learned a new legal phrase: "Police dog in action! Come out with your hands up! You have 30 seconds to surrender or I'll release the dog." If a dog is used in an arrest, police have to be prepared to testify in court that they gave this warning. Otherwise the arrest might be challenged on legal grounds, Spaulding explains. Sioux City also has a new ordinance prohibiting anyone from molesting a police dog on duty. This has not yet been tested in court at Sioux Gty but has been upheld elsewhere, Spaulding says. Assistant Police Chief Russell White, Canine Corps supervisor, says police dogs will not be used in crowd control or against intoxicated persons. "We're awfully cartful of hew we use them," White explains. "It's a lot of responsibility to place on an officer," WHERE THE WIVES MAY ALSO HELP These dogs, unlike those trained in the army K-9 corps to maim seriously, are trained to go for a suspect's arm. They are strictly one-man dogs, refusing to obey anyone except their specific policeman-master. However, the dogs are being trained to accept least restraint by the policemen's wives. This resulted from an incident in another city when a policeman was injured and taken to a hospital while his dog stayed at the scene of a crime. The dog would let no one near him, so they had to bring back the injured policeman on & stretcher to recapture the dog. The Sioux City dogs are valued at about 500 each. It is expected to cost about 200 a year each in food and veterinary bills. The four policemen in the Canine Patrol are sold on the program.

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Harry's Work Dog Company, Brighton, Mo., where the dogs underwent 16 weeks training and the handlers received two weeks training. During 1960 the dog firm in Missouri sold 34 working police dogs to various police departments about the nation. The firm is a combination breeding farm and training center. Nine persons are employed by the firm.

They mentioned a few of these services which are trail work in finding a lost'child, locating persons buried under debris following a tornado or other disaster, disarming criminals, trailing criminals —- finding their hiding place or pursuing through rough terrain and over fences, walls and other obstacles—protecting unlocked police cars and property therein, prisoner transportation, controlling all types of mobs and just plain home protection, Each dog is equipped with a harness. Attached on one side of the harness is a flashlight and on the other side a red light. The flash light, directed ahead of the dog, is a valuable vision aid at night inside buildings. The red light is used outside at night in tracking operations, permitting the officer to keep the animal located.
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Fri 25 Nov 2016, 6:48 pm
Here is Shelton E Norman with Rebel,

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Here are the DPD using dogs for crowds in Sixties.

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The image in the background is the DPD Tactical Division in the 1960's getting crowd control training and Officer S.E. Norman in the front row, right holding his canine.
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Sat 26 Nov 2016, 2:20 am
The dog sees something way more interesting!

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Sat 26 Nov 2016, 2:02 pm
Good eye Bart.
...lunch perhaps, or a hot bitch at Fair Park
That is where the K9 squad trained, posed for pics, etc.
They have headquarters location beside Fair Park.
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Sat 26 Nov 2016, 2:55 pm
Fair Park, eh? This is where I think Ruby and Crafard were involved in illegal gun running activities...
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Hasan the dogs were used right at Fair Park,
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