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Post by Hasan Yusuf on Wed 07 Dec 2016, 11:32 pm

In my essay “Who was behind the assassination?,” I discuss the fact that both the TSBD and the 112th MIG covered the EXACT SAME five states in the U. S. Those states being Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Arkansas, and Louisiana. I have recently come across the following interview where it is claimed that the Eighth Naval District also covers those very same five states:


http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10407&search=Oswald_Eighth+Naval+district#relPageId=201&tab=page

Is it just a coincidence? I think not. As I discuss in my essay “Oswald, Fred Korth, and the Office of Naval Intelligence,” there is good reason to believe that Oswald was working for the ONI following his return from the Soviet Union; namely during his involvement with the FPCC in New Orleans.


http://jfkthelonegunmanmyth.blogspot.com.au/2016/08/oswald-fred-korth-and-office-of-naval.html


To be continued…
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Post by Hasan Yusuf on Thu 08 Dec 2016, 1:11 am

Confirmation that the Eighth Naval District did comprise of the states of Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Arkansas, and Louisiana:


https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth117139/m1/343/


https://goo.gl/jZnJTs
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Post by Hasan Yusuf on Thu 08 Dec 2016, 11:33 pm

At the 2015 ROKC conference in Melbourne, researcher Phil Hopley gave a very interesting presentation on the FPCC. One of the most interesting things he mentioned was that wherever the FPCC had an office or mailing address, there was a Hertz rent a car office. I find it curious that the TSBD had a Hertz rent a car sign on top of its roof at the time of the assassination. Take this in conjunction with what I mentioned in my first post about Oswald, the ONI, and the Eighth Naval District. 
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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Sun 11 Dec 2016, 11:58 pm

Tennessee is in the 8TH.... Hmmmm

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Post by greg parker on Mon 12 Dec 2016, 9:35 am

When Oswald was placed into the Reserves, he was attached to the 9th Naval District - though the 8th was the one you would expect for him.

Why?

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Post by Hasan Yusuf on Mon 12 Dec 2016, 6:19 pm

greg parker wrote:When Oswald was placed into the Reserves, he was attached to the 9th Naval District - though the 8th was the one you would expect for him.

Why?

Interesting. I'll have a look into it.
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Post by Hasan Yusuf on Mon 12 Dec 2016, 11:31 pm

Not sure how significant/relevant this is, but…


“In the 1930s the Ninth Naval District had organized reserve intelligence teams to ferret out intelligence on radicals and pacifists. In 1960, while Marine G-2 and ONI shuffled their Oswald records, Glenview Naval Air Station played host to a five day school of the Christian Anti-Communist Crusade of Dr. Fred Schwarz…”


https://goo.gl/rIkpvK


Schwarz re the assassination:



http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=95632&search=Fred_Schwarz#relPageId=67&tab=page
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Post by greg parker on Tue 13 Dec 2016, 8:36 am

Hasan Yusuf wrote:Not sure how significant/relevant this is, but…


“In the 1930s the Ninth Naval District had organized reserve intelligence teams to ferret out intelligence on radicals and pacifists. In 1960, while Marine G-2 and ONI shuffled their Oswald records, Glenview Naval Air Station played host to a five day school of the Christian Anti-Communist Crusade of Dr. Fred Schwarz…”


https://goo.gl/rIkpvK


Schwarz re the assassination:



http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=95632&search=Fred_Schwarz#relPageId=67&tab=page
Bingo! Once again, he is associated with an entity with a history of anti-subversive activity. 

His own "delinquency" ( a trait suspected of being a possible precursor to radicalization) started from his 13th birthday and ended with John Pic leaving the anti-subversive PSU. Then onto New Orleans and an association with the CAP unit led by Ferrie who was involved in organizing CAP's own anti-subversion unit. 

Then on separation from the USMC into the USMCR, he is attached not to the ND of his home state or state of former residence as we should expect to see, he is attached to one that has a history of anti-subversion intelligence activity.*

IMO, here is who ultimately sent Oswald over to the Soviet Union - on a mission specifically requested by Ike (and ultimately betrayed by the CIA who had been charged with mission support functions). "On Dec 28, 1955, NCS 5412/2 took the policy approval function away from the OCB and placed it where it now resides, in the hands of State, Defense and the designated representative of the President." Note that Treasury is ever present in the background - i.e. Percival Flack Brundage of Albert Schweitzer College fame. 
http://orchestratingpower.org/lib/National%20Strategies/NS%20subordinate%20strategies/Polwar%20Psywar/1959,01,19%20NSC%205412-2%20covert%20historical.pdf


I will accept his attachment to the 9th as non-suspicious if someone can explain to me why it would/could happen. 

Reservists were (I am told by a reliable source) commonly used in Cold War intelligence missions. Marguerite herself claimed Lee was in Russia as an anti-subversive agent - which is an understandable misconception on Marguerite's part given Lee's attachment/proximity to anti-subversion activity from the age of 13, and possibly not really understanding all the possible terminologies.

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Post by Jake Sykes on Tue 13 Dec 2016, 12:48 pm

Hasan and Greg... brilliant, concise, and compelling and.....wow.
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Post by Stan Dane on Tue 13 Dec 2016, 1:53 pm

Jake Sykes wrote:Hasan and Greg... brilliant, concise, and compelling and.....wow.
Yep...more of that "new fresh research..." for ya!
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Post by greg parker on Tue 13 Dec 2016, 3:27 pm

From Hosty's Church Committee testimony:

Hosty: There is no ONI in Dallas. The ONI in New Orleans serves the Dallas area.
Schweiker: It serves the whole area?
Hosty: Yes, Sir; I think that's the 9th Naval District. They have a branch in Dallas, but it's not an office of record.

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If I understand this correctly, the 9th Naval District - based in Chicago - was where ONI was HQ. As such, they had branches in the HQ of other Naval District HQ's, which in turn had sub-offices in other cites they covered.

So... ONI in New Orleans and Dallas both answer to the 9th Naval District in Chicago to which Oswald had been attached.

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Post by Hasan Yusuf on Tue 13 Dec 2016, 6:34 pm

Thanks, Stan and Jake. Good stuff, Greg. As you write in your book, the PSU worked with the FBI and the ONI in "ridding Ports of subversive elements." Hmmm... a bit like Oswald and his involvement with the FPCC. I just know there are idiots out there who will dismiss it as being irrelevant. Fuck em!
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Post by Hasan Yusuf on Fri 23 Dec 2016, 11:35 pm

Have a read of the following:


http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11765&search=FPCC_ONI#relPageId=4&tab=page


I find it quite curious that the ONI “didn’t” have a record of Oswald distributing FPCC leaflets to the crowd. Is this further evidence that Oswald was working for the ONI during his time with the FPCC? I wouldn’t bet against it. 
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Post by Vinny on Sat 24 Dec 2016, 2:14 am

Do you think that the documents to be released in 2017 might shed some light on Oswald's ONI connections?

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Post by Hasan Yusuf on Sat 24 Dec 2016, 2:16 am

Vinny wrote:Do you think that the documents to be released in 2017 might shed some light on Oswald's ONI connections?

Possibly, Vinny, but I'm not holding my breath...
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