The Fundamentals of Solving this Case

• Location
  
• The identity of the patsy
  

That's it. That's all need you to start your investigation. If you truly follow the leads, you will get your answers. 

Any other starting point is a game of pin the tail on an unseeable, unknowable and frankly, literally unbelievable donkey (aka "the All-Encompassing Conspiracy"). 

My reason for posting this...

peter lemkin at da deep foo wrote:It [Prayer Man and 2nd Floor Clusters debates] is self-indulgent, selfish, mostly irrelevant and ego driven / divisive claptrap sadly all too common in the JFK forums. It is usually, IMHO, indulged in by those who see the assassination in Dallas as a 'who done it' mystery and not as the coup d'etat that it was - thus freeing them from having to do anything with the implications of the coup that is still in control...and leaving them to feel they can continue the petty fights about interesting [to some], but ultimately much less important aspects than who ordered it, arranged it, funded it and covered it up - and why. Too many are still playing in the Plaza ONLY and can't see what was going on in Mexico City, in D.C., in Miami, in Rome, in NATO, in Chicago, in L.A., in L.V., (and one could go on), with the several assassination plots against JFK in the months before, of the policies and morality of JFK that his opposites on morality and policy hated, of how it changed the US and the World, of how we lost our democracy in Dallas that day, of the international, military, JCS, NSA, COG, and other connections. This is low debate - if it be debate at all. This is below the standards we expect and will tolerate very long on this forum. Many other JFK forums thrive on this kind of juvenile spitball fighting. We will not.

Yep. There it is again. Reminds me of a British TV comedy from yesteryear about a rather shady tailor. The name of the show was "Never Mind the Quality... Feel the Width". With the Foo and others it is "Never Mind the Details... Feel the All-Encompassing Conspiracy!" It is an approach that absolves them from doing any real research and is designed for that very reason since they lack the ability to carry any out such research. Taken to the nth degree, they can then start pretending any dissenters are government stooges out to stop them spreading "the truth". It also provides a safe haven for loopy conspiracies like H & L because H & L is flexible to the needs of the "All-Encompassing Conspiracy" in that anything that does not fit has automatically been faked by the government or one of its agencies.

The Foo is redundant. Being so slow, it just hasn't realized it yet.

Lemkin is a big picture guy. Same with most others there. They wank over the implications of the assassination and research only what they need to keep on wanking away. 54 years of it will make you go blind. Especially when it comes to PM.

This faked photo is Lemkin's sole contribution.

Deep Foo and Der Forum both adhere to the Coup d'etat theory. I have never understood their fascination with building bigger, deeper, wider conspiracies of unnamed sponsors, mechanics, and assorted boogey-men. Burnham seems to think that everyone (including the Kennedy family) in the government, associated with the government, at one time worked for the government, ever mentioned or thought of the government, is somehow included in the vast black hole that is the conspiracy they envision.

I ran out of Dragos ages ago and it should seem fairly obvious to anyone with a working brain cell, that trying to pin a case on "everyone" is never going to fly. I thought Garrison had the wrong guy when he went to court but at least he had the balls to name someone. These followers of Deep Political thinking will never solve the case as their conspiracy is infused into everything around us and continues even today.

If they want to solve "the conspiracy", they're going to have to back up several millennia. If they want to solve the JFK murder, they need to learn to focus a little bit better.

Those who want to solve the case should be separated out from the youngsters who just want to play with the conspiracy building blocks. That's why I never go to Der Forum or Deep Foo.

Terry W. Martin wrote:Deep Foo and Der Forum both adhere to the Coup d'etat theory. I have never understood their fascination with building bigger, deeper, wider conspiracies of unnamed sponsors, mechanics, and assorted boogey-men. Burnham seems to think that everyone (including the Kennedy family) in the government, associated with the government, at one time worked for the government, ever mentioned or thought of the government, is somehow included in the vast black hole that is the conspiracy they envision.

I ran out of Dragos ages ago and it should seem fairly obvious to anyone with a working brain cell, that trying to pin a case on "everyone" is never going to fly. I thought Garrison had the wrong guy when he went to court but at least he had the balls to name someone. These followers of Deep Political thinking will never solve the case as their conspiracy is infused into everything around us and continues even today.

If they want to solve "the conspiracy", they're going to have to back up several millennia. If they want to solve the JFK murder, they need to learn to focus a little bit better.

Those who want to solve the case should be separated out from the youngsters who just want to play with the conspiracy building blocks. That's why I never go to Der Forum or Deep Foo.

Well said Terry

I guess they just want to keep disusing those same old topics that haven been debated for the past fifty years. While rejecting game changing stuff like PM. Well they can remain stagnant if they wish.