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Texas Theatre Theatrics
Tue 15 May 2018, 11:34 am
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Ed Ledoux wrote:
When police were called to the Texas Theater the description was of a man sneaking into the theater with a shotgun.
This was broadcast by the Dallas Police Department dispatcher.
Why else would police descend upon the TT in such force? Dozens of armed cops for a kid sneaking into the balcony?
So,,,Whom gave Julia Postal this description? Since she claims not to have actually seen the individual whom Brewer asked her about.
Brewer claims he is responsible for that description since he followed the person from down the street. Wouldn't Julia tell police this?
Surely she did not tell them she saw the person, so she had to rely on Brewer for this. Yet where did a shotgun get introduced if not by Postal.
Ed Ledoux wrote:
When police were called to the Texas Theater the description was of a man sneaking into the theater with a shotgun.
This was broadcast by the Dallas Police Department dispatcher.
Why else would police descend upon the TT in such force? Dozens of armed cops for a kid sneaking into the balcony?
So,,,Whom gave Julia Postal this description? Since she claims not to have actually seen the individual whom Brewer asked her about.
Brewer claims he is responsible for that description since he followed the person from down the street. Wouldn't Julia tell police this?
Surely she did not tell them she saw the person, so she had to rely on Brewer for this. Yet where did a shotgun get introduced if not by Postal.
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Tue 24 Sep 2019, 6:00 am
Not sure whether this has been posted before, but I found an old thread from the Webs forum on Brewer's IBM friends
http://www.prayer-man.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/rokc%20forum/www.reopenkennedycase.org/apps/forums/topics/show/13316841-brewer-s-ibm-friends.html
http://www.prayer-man.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/rokc%20forum/www.reopenkennedycase.org/apps/forums/topics/show/13316841-brewer-s-ibm-friends.html
Re: Texas Theatre Theatrics
Tue 24 Sep 2019, 8:32 am
Bart, the link doesn't work. I tried to fix it without success, but then discovered it was duplicated here anyway.
https://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t1124-brewer-s-ibm-friends
https://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t1124-brewer-s-ibm-friends
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Re: Texas Theatre Theatrics
Tue 24 Sep 2019, 8:44 am
Yeah the forum sw is a mess dealing w urls
But I edited it and now it works and takes you to the old webs forum thread
But I edited it and now it works and takes you to the old webs forum thread
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Tue 01 Oct 2019, 3:40 am
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Re: Texas Theatre Theatrics
Sat 05 Oct 2019, 10:37 am
You've been "Groden'd" Jim...just like Brian...will you admit it?
eah, the booth looks rectangular to me too in most of the pictures from the day. But it may be an optical illusion. It does appear to be Mrs. Postal in the booth, and a Google Image search for the photo I have gets no hits whatsoever other than my website which, in this case, is weird. John A. sent me the photo relatively recently (last year or two), but I didn’t think to ask what his source was. It might be interesting to track this down.
Below is a scan I just made of the top of page 147 of Robert Groden’s The Search for Lee Harvey Oswald. Under PHOTO CREDITS at the back of the book, the source for the photo at left is “Robert J. Groden Collection.”
[url=https://harveyandlee.net/JH PIX/TT_front.jpg][/url]
eah, the booth looks rectangular to me too in most of the pictures from the day. But it may be an optical illusion. It does appear to be Mrs. Postal in the booth, and a Google Image search for the photo I have gets no hits whatsoever other than my website which, in this case, is weird. John A. sent me the photo relatively recently (last year or two), but I didn’t think to ask what his source was. It might be interesting to track this down.
Below is a scan I just made of the top of page 147 of Robert Groden’s The Search for Lee Harvey Oswald. Under PHOTO CREDITS at the back of the book, the source for the photo at left is “Robert J. Groden Collection.”
[url=https://harveyandlee.net/JH PIX/TT_front.jpg][/url]
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Re: Texas Theatre Theatrics
Sun 06 Oct 2019, 10:10 am
Yes Ron, only someone with "the gift" can tell them apart...
Jim, that rounded version on the left does look like it could be perceived as rectangular in the Oswald arrest photo I posted. With the darkened background under the awning and only the front supports of the ticket booth showing in it above Oswald, the arresting officers and crowd it looks probable.
The thing your picture your shows that both convinces me of something I thought and perplexes me is this. The booth is glass enclosed all the way around. You can see through it. You see the entry doors behind it. It was detached from the building itself, the entry area. The stairs to the balcony.
Julia Postal, or some other unknown woman (?) told at least two DPD officers entering the theater looking for a suspect that he went up the stairs to the balcony. I need to look for their names. They are mentioned earlier in the thread.
If Julia Postal was out front doing her job, she couldn't see the stairs.
Bit like Harvey and Lee really...
[url=https://harveyandlee.net/JH PIX/TT_front.jpg][/url]
Jim, that rounded version on the left does look like it could be perceived as rectangular in the Oswald arrest photo I posted. With the darkened background under the awning and only the front supports of the ticket booth showing in it above Oswald, the arresting officers and crowd it looks probable.
The thing your picture your shows that both convinces me of something I thought and perplexes me is this. The booth is glass enclosed all the way around. You can see through it. You see the entry doors behind it. It was detached from the building itself, the entry area. The stairs to the balcony.
Julia Postal, or some other unknown woman (?) told at least two DPD officers entering the theater looking for a suspect that he went up the stairs to the balcony. I need to look for their names. They are mentioned earlier in the thread.
If Julia Postal was out front doing her job, she couldn't see the stairs.
Bit like Harvey and Lee really...
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Re: Texas Theatre Theatrics
Sun 06 Oct 2019, 1:28 pm
Same Same but different.
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Tue 03 Dec 2019, 10:43 am
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Re: Texas Theatre Theatrics
Wed 04 Dec 2019, 10:27 pm
Please see The New JFK Blog site, the 'Crafard, Kittrell, Oswald' thread. In that, the TEC agent Laura Kittrell (who knew that she had interviewed both Oswald and a look-alike Oswald within weeks), also had the opportunity to interview a man who had been the Janitor of the Texas Theatre, Tom Bowden. She was still working in the same role in 1976, when she interviewed Bowden, who was looking for work. He had had a long association with the theatre and told her that he was there on the morning of the 22nd November 1963.
He told Kittrell that on that Friday morning his work was interrupted early morning by Dallas Police officers descending on the theatre and thoroughly searching it. He was positive about this because "It interfered with his duties that morning".
I'll say that again - Dallas police were at the Texas theatre on the morning of the 22nd November. What the hell!!
He told Kittrell that on that Friday morning his work was interrupted early morning by Dallas Police officers descending on the theatre and thoroughly searching it. He was positive about this because "It interfered with his duties that morning".
I'll say that again - Dallas police were at the Texas theatre on the morning of the 22nd November. What the hell!!
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Re: Texas Theatre Theatrics
Sun 08 Dec 2019, 4:14 pm
Hi Peter,Peter Johnsen wrote:Please see The New JFK Blog site, the 'Crafard, Kittrell, Oswald' thread. In that, the TEC agent Laura Kittrell (who knew that she had interviewed both Oswald and a look-alike Oswald within weeks), also had the opportunity to interview a man who had been the Janitor of the Texas Theatre, Tom Bowden. She was still working in the same role in 1976, when she interviewed Bowden, who was looking for work. He had had a long association with the theatre and told her that he was there on the morning of the 22nd November 1963.
He told Kittrell that on that Friday morning his work was interrupted early morning by Dallas Police officers descending on the theatre and thoroughly searching it. He was positive about this because "It interfered with his duties that morning".
I'll say that again - Dallas police were at the Texas theatre on the morning of the 22nd November. What the hell!!
you've posted this more than once, could you please supply a link to the material your talking of. Cheers Mick
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Re: Texas Theatre Theatrics
Tue 10 Dec 2019, 1:46 pm
And now yer tellin' me we got to contend with doppleganger Texas Theaters!!!
What, I ask you, is next?
What, I ask you, is next?
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Re: Texas Theatre Theatrics
Tue 10 Dec 2019, 1:59 pm
Janitor thread found at 'The New JFK Show Blog - New JFK Assassination Research'
https//merdist.com
Hope that works for you,
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Re: Texas Theatre Theatrics
Tue 10 Dec 2019, 2:02 pm
PS. on page 2 under 'Laura Kittrell, Larry Crafard and Lee Oswald' thread
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Re: Texas Theatre Theatrics
Sun 01 Mar 2020, 3:22 am
From Geral Hill's WC testimony:
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/hill_gl.htm
"At this point this is the first time I remember encountering any newspaper-men or cameras, but as we walked into the lobby there was a man shooting movies.
Mr. BELIN. Movies?
Mr. HILL. He was from channel 8, but who he was, I don't know. He was a short, rather heavy-set fellow with kinky hair. This I remember about him."
Anyone ever remember seeing a movie from that day?
Channel 8 was WFAA.
From Harvey and Lee
https://harveyandlee.net/Tippit/Tippit.html
"As Westbrook showed the wallet to Barrett and fellow DPD officers, WFAA-TV Channel 8 news photographer Ron Reiland filmed the wallet."
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/hill_gl.htm
"At this point this is the first time I remember encountering any newspaper-men or cameras, but as we walked into the lobby there was a man shooting movies.
Mr. BELIN. Movies?
Mr. HILL. He was from channel 8, but who he was, I don't know. He was a short, rather heavy-set fellow with kinky hair. This I remember about him."
Anyone ever remember seeing a movie from that day?
Channel 8 was WFAA.
From Harvey and Lee
https://harveyandlee.net/Tippit/Tippit.html
"As Westbrook showed the wallet to Barrett and fellow DPD officers, WFAA-TV Channel 8 news photographer Ron Reiland filmed the wallet."
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Re: Texas Theatre Theatrics
Sun 01 Mar 2020, 11:28 am
Steve,
From the Weisberg Collection.
[url=http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/White Materials/JFK Assassination Photos Book/Pages 007-050.pdf]http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/White%20Materials/JFK%20Assassination%20Photos%20Book/Pages%20007-050.pdf[/url]
From the Weisberg Collection.
[url=http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/White Materials/JFK Assassination Photos Book/Pages 007-050.pdf]http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/White%20Materials/JFK%20Assassination%20Photos%20Book/Pages%20007-050.pdf[/url]
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Re: Texas Theatre Theatrics
Sun 01 Mar 2020, 11:52 am
Ronnie Reiland on the right of screen.
He was the only moving picture cameraman at the Tippit murder scene.
He also took footage of Oswald's arrest inside the Texas theater, unfortunately that footage was unusable allegedly due to operator error.
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Re: Texas Theatre Theatrics
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https://jfkassassinationfiles.wordpress.com/2019/09/05/tv-and-radio-people-present-at-parkland-on-november-22-1963/
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ApjDHmxj-0Cvo7t3rzrJESaZzK2G-eVw/view?usp=sharing
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Re: Texas Theatre Theatrics
Tue 25 Aug 2020, 4:53 am
My apologies if any of this has been covered before but I have a few questions regarding these pictures...
In the first picture, on our left there is a person in the back holding a revolver. The way he is holding it means he either received it from a person, or he is about to/already has pistol whipped someone. Who is that person?
In the first and second photos Walker(?) or whoever, appears to be attempting to put a shroud over Oswald's head. He is clearly above his head with some sort of white sack in the first photo, and in the second photo it appears Oswald has struggled out of position and he missed sliding it onto his head.
Anyone else see this? Has this been discussed before? I can't recall ever hearing of this and I can't recall ever seeing that detail in the photos and videos I've seen before. Why would they be shrouding his head? Especially if all official narratives are true, at best they thought he was involved with the death of Tippit. I find it all remarkably odd if that's what's happening.
In the third photo the passenger (can't recall who that was supposed to be) appears to be on the "phone." I don't recall any mention of a call being placed after Oswald's arrest. Is that out there somewhere and I overlooked it?
In the first picture, on our left there is a person in the back holding a revolver. The way he is holding it means he either received it from a person, or he is about to/already has pistol whipped someone. Who is that person?
In the first and second photos Walker(?) or whoever, appears to be attempting to put a shroud over Oswald's head. He is clearly above his head with some sort of white sack in the first photo, and in the second photo it appears Oswald has struggled out of position and he missed sliding it onto his head.
Anyone else see this? Has this been discussed before? I can't recall ever hearing of this and I can't recall ever seeing that detail in the photos and videos I've seen before. Why would they be shrouding his head? Especially if all official narratives are true, at best they thought he was involved with the death of Tippit. I find it all remarkably odd if that's what's happening.
In the third photo the passenger (can't recall who that was supposed to be) appears to be on the "phone." I don't recall any mention of a call being placed after Oswald's arrest. Is that out there somewhere and I overlooked it?
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