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Tue 17 Jul 2018, 7:21 pm
The deniers never stop.


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Tue 17 Jul 2018, 11:57 pm
I did not manage past 02:40 it is that bad.

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Wed 18 Jul 2018, 2:56 am
Blevin's  head gear is to hide the lobotomy scar.
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Wed 18 Jul 2018, 9:03 pm
Makes one wonder what their motive is.

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Thu 19 Jul 2018, 2:14 am
My theory is that JFK research draws an inordinate amount of lunatics, narcissists, sociopaths, and weirdos in general. Motive is optional
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Thu 19 Jul 2018, 4:01 pm
I do not believe he got a single thing correct, besides

He thought it impossible to go up one floor in 90 seconds, but totally doable to go down four in same 90 seconds.
To lump Cinque in with any PM research is false information.
Judyth Baker is his go to...

Where does he get his misinformation, its top shelf.

He has Lee getting off the elevator on second floor...and that is in front of a coke machine.

Coveralls... no one wore them at the TSBD.
Researchers know better.

Thinks Lee's alibi is Second Floor Lunchroom.

Okay, Im quite through watching.

.....ya see what Im saying
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Thu 19 Jul 2018, 4:43 pm
I like the idea of coveralls, Ed. I can see Stanton asking the other girls..."Do these make my bum look big?".

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Thu 19 Jul 2018, 7:32 pm
All the rage in prison blue too.
Dark colors are slimming Steely, ...how many white elephants you seen? Case closed.
Brian needs to factor this into his next bloody hypothesis tho: "Women's wear and the TSBD"
Excuse me I have to ...vomit a lil
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Thu 19 Jul 2018, 7:42 pm
Im with Ray on this, that head scarf is covering more than his head, lobotomy scar or where the "doctor" used bbq tongs to deliver the young lad?
Cheers, Ed
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Thu 19 Jul 2018, 10:13 pm
Overalls and a wig.... a professional would come to the same conclusion...

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Fri 20 Jul 2018, 1:07 am
Ed. Ledoux wrote:Im with Ray on this, that head scarf is covering more than his head, lobotomy scar or where the "doctor" used bbq tongs to deliver the young lad?
Cheers, Ed
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Fri 27 Jul 2018, 6:08 pm
Hi.
Im Leroy.
You may know my brother Holmes.
We call him Mobile Holmes cause thats what he cant afford to live in.

Cheers from the good side of the gene pool.
Ed
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Wed 08 Aug 2018, 11:41 pm
I saw this a couple of days ago, and had the same reaction as Ed Ledoux: Oswald can't go up one floor in 90 seconds, but he can get down four flights of stairs in that amount of time?

Then, he said that "his research" shows that Oswald used the elevators. I don't have time to look that up, but didn't the FBI (or was it Secret Service?) conduct time trials to see if it was possible to get down four flights of stairs in 90 seconds? Why would they do that if the elevator was an option?
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Thu 09 Aug 2018, 3:07 am
cavalier973 wrote:I saw this a couple of days ago, and had the same reaction as Ed Ledoux: Oswald can't go up one floor in 90 seconds, but he can get down four flights of stairs in that amount of time?

Then, he said that "his research" shows that Oswald used the elevators. I don't have time to look that up, but didn't the FBI (or was it Secret Service?) conduct time trials to see if it was possible to get down four flights of stairs in 90 seconds? Why would they do that if the elevator was an option?

Hello cavalier.
 
I think the time trials were an attempt to show that the FBI covered all the bases and considered all possibilities. Yet careful inspection shows they did not. Here is a summary of the time trials:


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From Prayer Man: Out of the Shadows and Into the Light, page 283:

Over and above this though is the observation that the above document charts a most curious exercise. The FBI supposedly by this stage already knows full well from Truly and Baker and Reid that Oswald's only possible escape route was that outlined in time trial #6 above. Yet here they are trying out lots of alternative routes by which the guilty Oswald could have made it down from the Sixth Floor and left the building by the front entrance.

In fully half of these time trials, the Second Floor lunchroom does not even feature! Perhaps they are conscientiously covering possible escape routes by an alternative shooter to or a confederate of Oswald?
 
Not possible: not a single exit-by-back-door or exit-by-side-door scenario is even time-trialed—proving that Oswald's possible movements, and his alone, are being considered.

The final note in the document does however make clear that the strong frontrunner in terms of Oswald escape routes is #6:
 
• descent by rear stairway to second floor
• lunchroom incident
• through office area
• down front stairs
• out front entrance.

I did a video series last year, "First to Second Evolution," that focuses on ALL of the most reliable, first-day, early evidence placing Oswald down in front on the first floor at the time of the assassination. As good and intriguing that the pictures of Prayer Man are, the case for Oswald being down in front does not rest solely on these images. The images support the evidence, but the evidence stands on its own.  

The series is 21 short videos, including four addendum videos that examine critical weaknesses in the official claim that Oswald did the dirty deed and then made it down to the second floor lunchroom in a mere 90 second. I actually use the film created by the Secret Service in late 1963 to show these weaknesses, doing my own time trials to illustrate how implausible it was (I believe they never thought anyone would ever look closely at this).

Here's Addendum 3, which shows the film as adjusted by me to make it fit in their 90 second window plus accounting for the TOTAL time needed to make it down the stairs to the second floor, all shown with a timer (Addendum 4 shows this graphically): 



And if you're ever interested in viewing the whole series (a little over a 2-hour commitment), here's the first video and you can go from there:

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Thu 09 Aug 2018, 3:20 am
I have watched them, in fact. Very well done.

It has been a while, though, so I will watch them again, as a refresher. I didn't realize that a few of the time trials were using the elevator.

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Sat 11 Aug 2018, 6:43 pm
All attempts to debunk Prayer Man so far have failed.

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Sun 12 Aug 2018, 2:52 am
As I recall, Blevins id's Prayer Man as Frasier, right?

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Mon 03 Dec 2018, 8:28 pm
Vinny has just told me that L.B. has passed away.
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Mon 03 Dec 2018, 9:00 pm
May he rest in peace.

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Thu 06 Dec 2018, 9:15 am
It is unfortunate.
LB helped make our case repeatedly.
Bless his heart.
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