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the lights went out etc
Mon 22 Apr 2019, 10:03 pm
To The PermaClown:
I contacted Jerry Lewis. and asked him if he knew Mr Squiggles. Following is Jerry's response.
Jerry said that he met Mr Squiggles in the mid-1990s in Dullarse. They spent a lot of time together reviewing squiggley lines and drawing conclusions. Mr Squiggles traveled with Jerry to his home in Thumbsuck, OK., where they spent a few days looking over Jerry's miniature doppelganger collection made in China.
During the next several years (1995-1999) Jerry traveled to The Magical Kingdom, MD, where he and Mr Squiggles met daily and visited the Big Artichoke which some say is at the heart of the problem, while others say it just defines the problem. At night they would return to an apartment they shared and review, and often copy, each other's squiggley lines. It was lots of fun.
** Jerry and Mr Squiggles were at the Big Artichoke when Jerry handled and inspected each and every item belonging to Harvey, the giant invisible cross-dressing white rabbit that was listed on the joint they were sharing. He was especially impressed by the snappy garter belts!
** Jerry and Mr Squiggle were at the Big Artichoke when Jerry discovered that the Dullarse Pareidolia Department (DPD) had sent 225 photos of clouds to the FBI during the evening of 11/22/63, but 3 days later the FBI returned 455 cloud photos back to the DPD! "It was the mostest wonderfullest day in the whole history of Pareidolia" adding, "to think that the FBI can now grow smudged photos in petri dishes! This will revolutionize the whole fake conspiracy theory industry!" exclaimed an excited Jerry.
What the FBI sent back btw was the original material collected by DPD along with material the FBI collected separately. Talk about a false mystery,
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** John and Malcolm were at the National Archives when John inspected the Minox camera and 1) could not open the camera to view the serial number; 2) found the camera to be unusually "heavy"; 3) had the camera weighted; 4) learned the weight of this camera was far in excess of manufacturer's specifications; 5) concluded this camera had been intentionally filled with a material that prevented the camera from opening and exposing the serial number of the camera
What does "heavy" mean? Either is was heavy or it was wink wink "heavy". MB does not appear to have conveyed anything about weight to Bart, only that it could not be opened. Also what does "weighted" mean? Does the PermaClown mean "weighed"? If so, how did that go down?
"Excuse me but do you have any scales here with which I can weigh this camera?"
"Why cointanly, sir! We just happen to have this fine set of scales on stand-by for all the times we are requested to weigh our exhibits, nyuk, nyuk, nyuk!"
Why not just ask the archivist why it feels like it's "filled with cement"? Surely they have some sort of explanation? Did Armstrong ask any questions at all about it? Apparently not, otherwise I am certain such explanations would be given.
** John and Malcolm were at the National Archives when John asked to see the roll of Klein's microfilm that was obtained by the FBI. The archives advised the microfilm had disappeared, and they had only a box in which the microfilm had been stored
Utter BS. "Disappeared" would not be a word that any archivist would use. "unavailable" maybe. "Given back to the original owner after being copied" perhaps. But not that it "disappeared" cue X Files theme song. Was this disappearance spontaneous? An act of theft? Who knows.... but the greatest researcher in the known giant rabbit hole, again doesn't ask any questions. Much better just to report it as "disappeared" and let the fevered imaginations of his flock do the rest.
** John and Malcolm were at the National Archives when John copied an HSCA tape recording of Robert McKeown, during which he discussed meeting with LEE Oswald on Labor Day weekend in 1963. John realized this was the same day during which HARVEY Oswald and his wife and child were at Lake Pontchartrain with the Murrets. McKeown also discussed his close, long time personal relationship with Castro.
Whoopdefuckingdo. There was NO Harvey so there was no fucking Harvey at Lake Pontcharfuckingtrain. And McKeown was interviewed in 1964 by the FBI and denied ever meeting Oswald. His description of the alleged visitor? 5' 6", late 30s or early 40s. Oswald my arse.
** John and Malcolm were at the National Archives when John located a document (WC testimony of James Cadigan) wherein Allen Dulles had altered testimony.
This is how dishonest this shit is. Firstly, all witnesses called were offered the opportunity to read the transcript and request any changes -- so any changes would have been requested by Cadigan himself. Blaming Dulles is pure speculation.
Although they did not spell it out to every single witness, it did apply to all witnesses. This from Butch Buroughs is an example:
Mr. BALL. I think that's all, Mr. Burroughs, and this will be written up and you can go down and sign it if you wish, or you can waive your signature right now. Which do you prefer?
Mr. BURROUGHS. I want to come down and sign it.
Signing meant you agreed with it as being accurate. If you did not agree with it, it would be updated and then you signed.
** John and Malcolm were at the National Archives when John discovered that the US Postal money order, allegedly used to pay for the Mannlicher Carcano rifle, had disappeared--there were only photographs of the money order.
FFS. Yes. The PTB got advance warning that Armstrong was coming Get rid of all the original documents - make them DISAPPEAR or he will discover THE TRUTH about our Oswald Lookalike Factory!
** John and Malcolm were at the National Archives when John found a document wherein the WC agreed to accept FBI photographs of evidence in lieu of the physical evidence. This, of course, provides the opportunity to alter or manufacture any and all evidence.
Well gee willakers Johnny. Ya think this might have something to do with all those disappeared originals???
Have you, Bart Kamp, ever visited the National Archives?
Have you, PermaClown, ever had an original thought?
On one occasion, Malcolm and John drove to Rhode Island where they met and had a lobster dinner with former Marine Richard Cyr, who knew and spent a lot of time with LEE Oswald in Japan. Malcolm and John then drove to Leeds, MA., where they met and videotape recorded an interview with Dr. Milton Kurian, a NYC psychiatrist who interviewed HARVEY Oswald in April, 1953 (see U-Tube video).
Cyr knew SFA http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/burroughs.htm
And I now believe it's possible Kurian did interview Oswald - unofficially. His recall of his height is not remarkable. Robert Oswald was nicknamed the Mouse at the military Academy because he was the shortest kid there. See John Pic testimony.
On another occasion, when John and Malcolm were together in Dallas, John brought Dr. Kurian and his wife to Dallas, TX for a JFK Lancer conference. John also brought Palmer McBride to this conference, a man who had worked with HARVEY Oswald at the Pfisterer Dental Laboratory in New Orleans in 1957-58 while LEE Oswald and Richard Cyr were together in the Marine Corps in Japan. Malcolm spent several days with Palmer, who had recently retired from a 40 year career working for NASA. Malcolm also spoke with Harry Vance (Palmer's long-time friend from N.O) who also met and remembered HARVEY Oswald at the Pfisterer Dental Lab in 1957-58. Then there was William Wulf, President of the N.O. Amateur Astronomy Association (1957-58), who met HARVEY Oswald on numerous occasions in early 1958. When HARVEY Oswald visited Wulf's home, and began discussing communism, Wulf's father told young Oswald to "get out of his house."
More absolute bullshit. Wulf tesified:
Mr. LIEBELER - In connection with your activities in the New Orleans Amateur Astronomy Association, did there ever come a time when you were contacted by or met a person who you either now believe or know to be Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mr. WULF - I believe it was. The one person who could have confirmed this in my behalf was Mr. McBride, P.E. McBride, who is in Florida at this time.
Mr. LIEBELER - That is Palmer McBride?
Mr. WULF - Right. But I had met Oswald through McBride. He contacted me on getting into the Astronomy Club at that time, and it was—I had originally believed it was 1953, but on recapitulating the time and all, probably It was September or August in 1955.
Please ask Malcolm for his impression and opinion of Palmer McBride and Harry Vance's credibility. Please record Malcolm's response for the benefit of forum members.
Wow. Wulf sounds credible and convincing in his testimony. I'm sure Lifton would say McBride sound convincing and credible when he admitted he was probably wrong about the year he knew Oswald. But of course - any real credible investigator does not befriend and spend days at the side of witnesses. Not unless they are manipulating the witness into saying what they want to hear.
Have you, Bart Kamp, ever personally interviewed a witness who personally knew or worked with LHO during the 1950s.
Not everyone is rich enough or unethical enough to go on witness recruitment drives.
Malcolm accompanied John during one of his (John's) many visits to the home of Marina Oswald Porter. It was during this visit that Marina gave John all of the original color slides from Dr. Norton's examination of HARVEY Oswald when exhumed in 1981. John copied the slides, returned the original slides to Marina, and posted some of the slides on line.
"Some" LOLLLLL! Look at what Bart is posting, shithead.
Did you, Bart Kamp, ever meet Marina or June or Rachel ?
Big fucking deal. Did Armstrong use them to break open this case? Fuck no. Not a fucking chance.
Tell him to send his money to ROKC. We actually will break the case with it.
I look forward to posting your replies to the above questions for the benefit of forum members.
Unfortunately for you, Bart took your bullshit apart without answering a single one of your bullshit questions.
Since you seem to be too busy and too important to hang out with us mere mortals here on the Ed Forum, I am also going to PM you this message to make sure you don't miss it. Forum software should email it to you also.
I guess he got it!
As for evidence for two Oswalds at the TSBD, I have posted it in this very thread, posted it in many other threads on this forum, and have posted it all over HarveyandLee.net. You just pretend it doesn't exist. That doesn't make it go away.
No need to pretend it doesn't exist. It doesn't exist.
Edited 12 hours ago by The PermaClown
I contacted Jerry Lewis. and asked him if he knew Mr Squiggles. Following is Jerry's response.
Jerry said that he met Mr Squiggles in the mid-1990s in Dullarse. They spent a lot of time together reviewing squiggley lines and drawing conclusions. Mr Squiggles traveled with Jerry to his home in Thumbsuck, OK., where they spent a few days looking over Jerry's miniature doppelganger collection made in China.
During the next several years (1995-1999) Jerry traveled to The Magical Kingdom, MD, where he and Mr Squiggles met daily and visited the Big Artichoke which some say is at the heart of the problem, while others say it just defines the problem. At night they would return to an apartment they shared and review, and often copy, each other's squiggley lines. It was lots of fun.
** Jerry and Mr Squiggles were at the Big Artichoke when Jerry handled and inspected each and every item belonging to Harvey, the giant invisible cross-dressing white rabbit that was listed on the joint they were sharing. He was especially impressed by the snappy garter belts!
** Jerry and Mr Squiggle were at the Big Artichoke when Jerry discovered that the Dullarse Pareidolia Department (DPD) had sent 225 photos of clouds to the FBI during the evening of 11/22/63, but 3 days later the FBI returned 455 cloud photos back to the DPD! "It was the mostest wonderfullest day in the whole history of Pareidolia" adding, "to think that the FBI can now grow smudged photos in petri dishes! This will revolutionize the whole fake conspiracy theory industry!" exclaimed an excited Jerry.
What the FBI sent back btw was the original material collected by DPD along with material the FBI collected separately. Talk about a false mystery,
------------------------------
** John and Malcolm were at the National Archives when John inspected the Minox camera and 1) could not open the camera to view the serial number; 2) found the camera to be unusually "heavy"; 3) had the camera weighted; 4) learned the weight of this camera was far in excess of manufacturer's specifications; 5) concluded this camera had been intentionally filled with a material that prevented the camera from opening and exposing the serial number of the camera
What does "heavy" mean? Either is was heavy or it was wink wink "heavy". MB does not appear to have conveyed anything about weight to Bart, only that it could not be opened. Also what does "weighted" mean? Does the PermaClown mean "weighed"? If so, how did that go down?
"Excuse me but do you have any scales here with which I can weigh this camera?"
"Why cointanly, sir! We just happen to have this fine set of scales on stand-by for all the times we are requested to weigh our exhibits, nyuk, nyuk, nyuk!"
Why not just ask the archivist why it feels like it's "filled with cement"? Surely they have some sort of explanation? Did Armstrong ask any questions at all about it? Apparently not, otherwise I am certain such explanations would be given.
** John and Malcolm were at the National Archives when John asked to see the roll of Klein's microfilm that was obtained by the FBI. The archives advised the microfilm had disappeared, and they had only a box in which the microfilm had been stored
Utter BS. "Disappeared" would not be a word that any archivist would use. "unavailable" maybe. "Given back to the original owner after being copied" perhaps. But not that it "disappeared" cue X Files theme song. Was this disappearance spontaneous? An act of theft? Who knows.... but the greatest researcher in the known giant rabbit hole, again doesn't ask any questions. Much better just to report it as "disappeared" and let the fevered imaginations of his flock do the rest.
** John and Malcolm were at the National Archives when John copied an HSCA tape recording of Robert McKeown, during which he discussed meeting with LEE Oswald on Labor Day weekend in 1963. John realized this was the same day during which HARVEY Oswald and his wife and child were at Lake Pontchartrain with the Murrets. McKeown also discussed his close, long time personal relationship with Castro.
Whoopdefuckingdo. There was NO Harvey so there was no fucking Harvey at Lake Pontcharfuckingtrain. And McKeown was interviewed in 1964 by the FBI and denied ever meeting Oswald. His description of the alleged visitor? 5' 6", late 30s or early 40s. Oswald my arse.
** John and Malcolm were at the National Archives when John located a document (WC testimony of James Cadigan) wherein Allen Dulles had altered testimony.
This is how dishonest this shit is. Firstly, all witnesses called were offered the opportunity to read the transcript and request any changes -- so any changes would have been requested by Cadigan himself. Blaming Dulles is pure speculation.
Although they did not spell it out to every single witness, it did apply to all witnesses. This from Butch Buroughs is an example:
Mr. BALL. I think that's all, Mr. Burroughs, and this will be written up and you can go down and sign it if you wish, or you can waive your signature right now. Which do you prefer?
Mr. BURROUGHS. I want to come down and sign it.
Signing meant you agreed with it as being accurate. If you did not agree with it, it would be updated and then you signed.
** John and Malcolm were at the National Archives when John discovered that the US Postal money order, allegedly used to pay for the Mannlicher Carcano rifle, had disappeared--there were only photographs of the money order.
FFS. Yes. The PTB got advance warning that Armstrong was coming Get rid of all the original documents - make them DISAPPEAR or he will discover THE TRUTH about our Oswald Lookalike Factory!
** John and Malcolm were at the National Archives when John found a document wherein the WC agreed to accept FBI photographs of evidence in lieu of the physical evidence. This, of course, provides the opportunity to alter or manufacture any and all evidence.
Well gee willakers Johnny. Ya think this might have something to do with all those disappeared originals???
Have you, Bart Kamp, ever visited the National Archives?
Have you, PermaClown, ever had an original thought?
On one occasion, Malcolm and John drove to Rhode Island where they met and had a lobster dinner with former Marine Richard Cyr, who knew and spent a lot of time with LEE Oswald in Japan. Malcolm and John then drove to Leeds, MA., where they met and videotape recorded an interview with Dr. Milton Kurian, a NYC psychiatrist who interviewed HARVEY Oswald in April, 1953 (see U-Tube video).
Cyr knew SFA http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/burroughs.htm
And I now believe it's possible Kurian did interview Oswald - unofficially. His recall of his height is not remarkable. Robert Oswald was nicknamed the Mouse at the military Academy because he was the shortest kid there. See John Pic testimony.
On another occasion, when John and Malcolm were together in Dallas, John brought Dr. Kurian and his wife to Dallas, TX for a JFK Lancer conference. John also brought Palmer McBride to this conference, a man who had worked with HARVEY Oswald at the Pfisterer Dental Laboratory in New Orleans in 1957-58 while LEE Oswald and Richard Cyr were together in the Marine Corps in Japan. Malcolm spent several days with Palmer, who had recently retired from a 40 year career working for NASA. Malcolm also spoke with Harry Vance (Palmer's long-time friend from N.O) who also met and remembered HARVEY Oswald at the Pfisterer Dental Lab in 1957-58. Then there was William Wulf, President of the N.O. Amateur Astronomy Association (1957-58), who met HARVEY Oswald on numerous occasions in early 1958. When HARVEY Oswald visited Wulf's home, and began discussing communism, Wulf's father told young Oswald to "get out of his house."
More absolute bullshit. Wulf tesified:
Mr. LIEBELER - In connection with your activities in the New Orleans Amateur Astronomy Association, did there ever come a time when you were contacted by or met a person who you either now believe or know to be Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mr. WULF - I believe it was. The one person who could have confirmed this in my behalf was Mr. McBride, P.E. McBride, who is in Florida at this time.
Mr. LIEBELER - That is Palmer McBride?
Mr. WULF - Right. But I had met Oswald through McBride. He contacted me on getting into the Astronomy Club at that time, and it was—I had originally believed it was 1953, but on recapitulating the time and all, probably It was September or August in 1955.
Please ask Malcolm for his impression and opinion of Palmer McBride and Harry Vance's credibility. Please record Malcolm's response for the benefit of forum members.
Wow. Wulf sounds credible and convincing in his testimony. I'm sure Lifton would say McBride sound convincing and credible when he admitted he was probably wrong about the year he knew Oswald. But of course - any real credible investigator does not befriend and spend days at the side of witnesses. Not unless they are manipulating the witness into saying what they want to hear.
Have you, Bart Kamp, ever personally interviewed a witness who personally knew or worked with LHO during the 1950s.
Not everyone is rich enough or unethical enough to go on witness recruitment drives.
Malcolm accompanied John during one of his (John's) many visits to the home of Marina Oswald Porter. It was during this visit that Marina gave John all of the original color slides from Dr. Norton's examination of HARVEY Oswald when exhumed in 1981. John copied the slides, returned the original slides to Marina, and posted some of the slides on line.
"Some" LOLLLLL! Look at what Bart is posting, shithead.
Did you, Bart Kamp, ever meet Marina or June or Rachel ?
Big fucking deal. Did Armstrong use them to break open this case? Fuck no. Not a fucking chance.
Tell him to send his money to ROKC. We actually will break the case with it.
I look forward to posting your replies to the above questions for the benefit of forum members.
Unfortunately for you, Bart took your bullshit apart without answering a single one of your bullshit questions.
Since you seem to be too busy and too important to hang out with us mere mortals here on the Ed Forum, I am also going to PM you this message to make sure you don't miss it. Forum software should email it to you also.
I guess he got it!
As for evidence for two Oswalds at the TSBD, I have posted it in this very thread, posted it in many other threads on this forum, and have posted it all over HarveyandLee.net. You just pretend it doesn't exist. That doesn't make it go away.
No need to pretend it doesn't exist. It doesn't exist.
Edited 12 hours ago by The PermaClown
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Re: the lights went out etc
Wed 24 Apr 2019, 1:57 am
Dulles did do it
MB recognised his handwriting.
MB recognised his handwriting.
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Re: the lights went out etc
Wed 24 Apr 2019, 7:22 am
What I read Bart was that it he thought it looked like Dulles' hand-writing. That's far from proof it was Dulles hand-writing.barto wrote:Dulles did do it
MB recognised his handwriting.
The only pertinent fact is and remains that each witness was offered the opportunity to read the transcript and request changes before signing it - no different than signing a police statement.
And I'll add that Armstrong would have been well aware of that, so it is utterly dishonest not mentioning that little fact, instead, relying on an unscientific guess on whose writing it looked like.
Same goes with all the BS about being told original documents and files had "disappeared". If you went to the archives multiple times and kept getting told this, would you not ask questions of them about it? Or would you just go away and report the "disappeared" word because you know your readers have wild imaginations and that word feeds into their conspiracies?
Same with saying the camera felt like it was filled with cement and weighing it. Did Armstrong take note of what it weighed and report that weight so it could be compared to the cameras normal weight? No. Did they even know when they weighed it what the right weight should be? Who knows. Armstrong would prefer to leave as much dangling in thin air as possible - again because it feeds the conspiracies of his flock.
Don't get me started, Bart, It won't be pretty.
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Re: the lights went out etc
Wed 24 Apr 2019, 11:24 pm
1. The permaclown is borrowing heavily from the LN Handbook with his running up the outside steps might have confused poor Marrion about floor numbers. He must have thought the footpath was the 1st floor!jim pernaclown hargrove wrote:From Marrion Baker’s 11/22/63 affidavit (emphasis added):
“As we reached the third or fourth floor I saw a man walking away from
the stairway. I called to the man and he turned around and came back
toward me. The manager said, "I know that man, he works here." I then
turned the man loose and went up to the top floor. The man I saw was a
white man approximately 30 years old, 5'9", 165 pounds, dark hair and
wearing a light brown jacket.”
The TSBD has a raised first floor. Baker had to run up the exterior staircase to reach the first floor, and then had to run up another staircase to reach the second floor. In his haste, he could easily have confused the second floor with the third or even the fourth. His description of Harvey Oswald wasn’t very accurate but was within reason, considering the light wasn’t very good in the 2nd floor lunchroom vestibule.
People complain that Baker doesn’t mention the fact that “Oswald” was brought into the back room at Homicide while Baker was still writing up his affidavit and Baker doesn’t mention that in his short, handwritten note. But when Baker handed his report to Det. Marvin Johnson, he DID mention that fact. Johnson wrote: "Patrolman Baker was in the Homicide Bureau giving an affidavit and Oswald was brought into the room to talk to some Secret Service men. When Baker saw Oswald he stated, 'that is the man I stopped on the 4th floor of the School Book Depository.'"
Fritz’s notes also seem to confirm the lunchroom encounter: “"claims 2nd floor coke when off came in….”
I, and probably others here, believe that Postal Inspector Harry Holmes was part of the conspiracy to frame Harvey Oswald, but since the following is directly opposed to the Official Story, we should at least consider it. From the 4-page memo Holmes wrote when he attended the last Oswald interrogation on Sunday morning:
When asked as to his whereabouts at the time of the shooting, he stated that when lunchtime came, and he didn’t say which floor he was on, he said one of the Negro employees invited him to eat lunch with him and he stated, “You go on down and send the elevator back up and I will join you in a few minutes.” Before he could finish whatever he was doing, he stated, the commotion surrounding the assassination took place and when he went downstairs, a policeman questioned him as to his identification and his boss stated that “he is one of our employees” whereupon the policeman told him to step aside momentarily. Following this, he simply walked out the front door of the building.
Richard Gilbride has written an interesting article called DEATH OF THE LUNCHROOM HOAX. The piece begins as follows:
This essay establishes beyond any rational doubt that the 2nd-floor lunchroom encounter
between Lee Harvey Oswald, Marrion Baker and Roy Truly actually happened. The timing of
this incident, roughly 60 seconds after the assassination, strongly suggests that Oswald was
in the lunchroom during the shooting of President Kennedy.
2. His description of a potential suspect who you dub without a skerrick of evidence in support, "Harvey Oswald", is simply an inaccuracy he could have rectified by looking at the prisoner in the same. Or was the light bad in the interview room, as well?
3. Baker had the opportunity to mention it was the same person. You seem to claim it wasn't important enough to mention by Baker. But lo and behold, it WAS important enough for Johnson to mention. Which is a pretty pathetic defense. Any reasonable person would conclude that Johnson put it in his later statement to link this Baker incident to the recently created 2nd floor scenario.
4. Fritz' notes were cribbed from the false interrogation reports of others. Meaningless.
5.So you believe a Postal Inspector framed a figment of your imagination. Big deal, We already know your neglectful relationship with reality. Holmes was not there to ask questions about Oswald's whereabouts, but he did ask; It should be noted that he was the only interrogator not trained in the Reid Technique.
6. “he is one of our employees” is probably a good approximation of what Truly said of Oswald. Except it was not to Baker on the 2nd floor - it was to Det. Kaminski on the 1st floor.
"As each office and floor was cleared, the employees were stopped by Kaminski and Mr Truly, manager of the firm, at the front door where their names, addresses and telephone numbers were written down and they were identified by Mr Truly as to their employment."
and they were identified by Mr Truly as to their employment."
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10484&relPageId=74&search=kaminski_and%20truly
And when he identified people at the front door for Det. Kaminski, I think he probably said something like "he is one of our employees”
7. The Gilbrde can claim whatever he wants about his essay, but reading it proves him wrong. It is so full of speculation piled on speculation, I am surprised he has not been promoted in the Armstrong army. Paint fumes are not good for clear thinking.
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Re: the lights went out etc
Thu 25 Apr 2019, 4:42 am
Now the PermaClown is citing a NYT articled from Nov 24, 1963 which was used by The Gilbride.
“The first officer to reach the six-story building, Lieut. Curry said, found Oswald among other persons in a lunchroom. He said the building manager identified Oswald as an employee of the book-distribution concern that used the building. Oswald was not questioned then."
And tries to suggest it was published too quickly to have been a concocted story to shore up the 2nd floor lunchroom encounter.
No it wasn't. The 2nd floor story was concocted the night of Nov 22,
But that doesn't matter because the story, as has been pointed out to you, does not say it was the 2nd floor lunch room.
The story actually makes no sense whatsoever. It seems to say that Oswald was specifically targeted by Baker in the lunchroom, while others also in there were ignored.
The story isn't fit to be used to line the bottom of a bird cage let alone be used to prop up the false scenario of a 2nd floor lunch encounter.
But it's good enough for the Gilbride and the PermaClown because they will grasp at any straw to hang on to that particular piece of BS. They need it to prop up their own special brand of bullshit about multiple Oswald's running loose all over the US, Canada, USSR, Cuba and Mexico But especially inside that building.
Here is anther story from Nov 23
Police posted to exits... let a man identified as Oswald to leave after another employee confirmed Oswald was an employee.
Refer back to the Texas AG report quoted in the previous post.
"As each office and floor was cleared, the employees were stopped by Kaminski and Mr Truly, manager of the firm, at the front door where their names, addresses and telephone numbers were written down and they were identified by Mr Truly as to their employment."
Not Baker and Truly. Not 2nd floor
Kaminski and Truly, 1st floor
“The first officer to reach the six-story building, Lieut. Curry said, found Oswald among other persons in a lunchroom. He said the building manager identified Oswald as an employee of the book-distribution concern that used the building. Oswald was not questioned then."
And tries to suggest it was published too quickly to have been a concocted story to shore up the 2nd floor lunchroom encounter.
No it wasn't. The 2nd floor story was concocted the night of Nov 22,
But that doesn't matter because the story, as has been pointed out to you, does not say it was the 2nd floor lunch room.
The story actually makes no sense whatsoever. It seems to say that Oswald was specifically targeted by Baker in the lunchroom, while others also in there were ignored.
The story isn't fit to be used to line the bottom of a bird cage let alone be used to prop up the false scenario of a 2nd floor lunch encounter.
But it's good enough for the Gilbride and the PermaClown because they will grasp at any straw to hang on to that particular piece of BS. They need it to prop up their own special brand of bullshit about multiple Oswald's running loose all over the US, Canada, USSR, Cuba and Mexico But especially inside that building.
Here is anther story from Nov 23
Police posted to exits... let a man identified as Oswald to leave after another employee confirmed Oswald was an employee.
Refer back to the Texas AG report quoted in the previous post.
"As each office and floor was cleared, the employees were stopped by Kaminski and Mr Truly, manager of the firm, at the front door where their names, addresses and telephone numbers were written down and they were identified by Mr Truly as to their employment."
Not Baker and Truly. Not 2nd floor
Kaminski and Truly, 1st floor
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Re: the lights went out etc
Thu 25 Apr 2019, 11:38 am
No Greg you don't understand....you're too busy obsessing about facts..its the totality of the evidence that matters. You gotta relax man take a step back and look at the BIG picture. Lie back and think of Lee's tall good looking mom, imagine your a wriggly little sperm..go with the flow..
I used t b just like you. Wallowing in ignorance. I once thought the idea of non related near identical doppelgangers, mysterious dumpy fake mothers who never smiled and top secret CIA sperm experiments were utterly fucking preposterous. The stuff of Z Grade sci fi.
Then the most wonderful thing happened. The day after i joined your forum there was a knock at the door, i answered and it was this really friendly guy in a grey jumpsuit..had this really neat little grey beard..sorta like Gandalfs pubic wig..and these weird shiny eyes. He asked if i wanted t go for a ride..an unmarked black van was sitting across the street. I don't remember much afterwards..i kinda had flashbacks about being dragged into a barbed wire compound surrounded by lots of guards..all in the same grey jumpsuits..i thought i saw a sign that read "Re education camp"
Once inside this really nice guy with a high pitched voice, shades and a cowboy hat began talking about Stripling High School, Dolly Shoe, fake Marguerite Oswalds menstrual cycle, some fellow called Kudlaty and exhumed corpses with magic scars..i passed out afterwards...i think..i woke up at home wearing a grey jumpsuit with " you ain't gonna learn what you don't want t know" tattooed on my head.
You too can see the light..have you thought about accepting John Armstrong into your life? You're never alone with a doppelganger..there's a little Harvey inside us all..sorry i have t go ...time for my morning prayers and cleansing.." Omne Padme Palmer McBride"
I used t b just like you. Wallowing in ignorance. I once thought the idea of non related near identical doppelgangers, mysterious dumpy fake mothers who never smiled and top secret CIA sperm experiments were utterly fucking preposterous. The stuff of Z Grade sci fi.
Then the most wonderful thing happened. The day after i joined your forum there was a knock at the door, i answered and it was this really friendly guy in a grey jumpsuit..had this really neat little grey beard..sorta like Gandalfs pubic wig..and these weird shiny eyes. He asked if i wanted t go for a ride..an unmarked black van was sitting across the street. I don't remember much afterwards..i kinda had flashbacks about being dragged into a barbed wire compound surrounded by lots of guards..all in the same grey jumpsuits..i thought i saw a sign that read "Re education camp"
Once inside this really nice guy with a high pitched voice, shades and a cowboy hat began talking about Stripling High School, Dolly Shoe, fake Marguerite Oswalds menstrual cycle, some fellow called Kudlaty and exhumed corpses with magic scars..i passed out afterwards...i think..i woke up at home wearing a grey jumpsuit with " you ain't gonna learn what you don't want t know" tattooed on my head.
You too can see the light..have you thought about accepting John Armstrong into your life? You're never alone with a doppelganger..there's a little Harvey inside us all..sorry i have t go ...time for my morning prayers and cleansing.." Omne Padme Palmer McBride"
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A fez! A fez! My kingdom for a fez!!
The last words of King Richard HARVEY Plantagenet III
Bosworth Field 1485
Is that a doppelganger in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me?
Artist, poet, polymath, cancer research prodigy Judyth Vary Baker's first words to Lee HARVEY Oswald. New Orleans April 1963
For every HARVEY there must be an equal and opposite LEE
Professor Sandy Isaac Newton Laverne Shirley Fonzie Larsen's
Famous 1st Law of Doppelganging
" To answer your question I ALWAYS look for mundane reasons for seeming anomalies before considering sinister explanations. Only a fool would do otherwise. And I'm no fool" The esteemed Professor Larsen From his soon to be published self help book " The Trough of Enlightenment "( Trine Day Foreword Vince Palamara)
" Once you prove Davidson's woman's face then Stanton's breasts follow naturally " Brian Doyle
Re: the lights went out etc
Thu 25 Apr 2019, 12:10 pm
"have you thought about accepting John Armstrong into your life?"
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Latest from the PermaClown: Oswald was also challenged on the first floor is a little more obtuse, but I’m working on it with a friend.
More soon, hopefully.
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We can all relax; he's working on it with "a friend"
Should we run a sweep on who that is?
Brian?
The Gilbride?
The Singin' Cowboy?
John Armstrong His Very Self?
Pugsley?
The Fez?
The Real Lee Oswald Who Works with the Real Elvis at Hungry Jack's?
Any other contenders?
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Latest from the PermaClown: Oswald was also challenged on the first floor is a little more obtuse, but I’m working on it with a friend.
More soon, hopefully.
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We can all relax; he's working on it with "a friend"
Should we run a sweep on who that is?
Brian?
The Gilbride?
The Singin' Cowboy?
John Armstrong His Very Self?
Pugsley?
The Fez?
The Real Lee Oswald Who Works with the Real Elvis at Hungry Jack's?
Any other contenders?
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Re: the lights went out etc
Thu 25 Apr 2019, 12:25 pm
Yes Greg, two encounters now. Hell, there are two Oswalds in the building so WTF, let's meet his two encounters and raise it to four encounters: first, second, third, and fourth floors.
Hargrove is 'working on it with a friend'. Two fools too.
Hargrove is 'working on it with a friend'. Two fools too.
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Re: the lights went out etc
Thu 25 Apr 2019, 12:46 pm
greg parker wrote:"have you thought about accepting John Armstrong into your life?"
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Re: the lights went out etc
Thu 25 Apr 2019, 1:03 pm
That's the guy!!! The guy who was at my door!! The black haired guy looks kinda familiar too. Except i only saw the back of his head..he was kind of hunched over the steering wheel mumbling something about swabs for gonorrhea but i couldn't make out what he was saying as the van was shaking. What ever he was saying it musta been exciting as he kept squealing and moaning.
Does that mean you've been saved too ?
Does that mean you've been saved too ?
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A fez! A fez! My kingdom for a fez!!
The last words of King Richard HARVEY Plantagenet III
Bosworth Field 1485
Is that a doppelganger in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me?
Artist, poet, polymath, cancer research prodigy Judyth Vary Baker's first words to Lee HARVEY Oswald. New Orleans April 1963
For every HARVEY there must be an equal and opposite LEE
Professor Sandy Isaac Newton Laverne Shirley Fonzie Larsen's
Famous 1st Law of Doppelganging
" To answer your question I ALWAYS look for mundane reasons for seeming anomalies before considering sinister explanations. Only a fool would do otherwise. And I'm no fool" The esteemed Professor Larsen From his soon to be published self help book " The Trough of Enlightenment "( Trine Day Foreword Vince Palamara)
" Once you prove Davidson's woman's face then Stanton's breasts follow naturally " Brian Doyle
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Re: the lights went out etc
Thu 25 Apr 2019, 3:13 pm
"... i only saw the back of his head..." ~Alex
Consider yourself luckier than most.
Ed
Consider yourself luckier than most.
Ed
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Re: the lights went out etc
Fri 26 Apr 2019, 2:59 am
Would his "friend" be a banned member of the EF?...strictly taboo to proxy post under their site rules. He should know that already...greg parker wrote:"have you thought about accepting John Armstrong into your life?"
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Latest from the PermaClown: Oswald was also challenged on the first floor is a little more obtuse, but I’m working on it with a friend.
More soon, hopefully.
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We can all relax; he's working on it with "a friend"
Should we run a sweep on who that is?
Brian?
The Gilbride?
The Singin' Cowboy?
John Armstrong His Very Self?
Pugsley?
The Fez?
The Real Lee Oswald Who Works with the Real Elvis at Hungry Jack's?
Any other contenders?
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Checkmate.
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Re: the lights went out etc
Fri 26 Apr 2019, 9:51 am
steely dan wrote:Would his "friend" be a banned member of the EF?...strictly taboo to proxy post under their site rules. He should know that already...greg parker wrote:"have you thought about accepting John Armstrong into your life?"
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Latest from the PermaClown: Oswald was also challenged on the first floor is a little more obtuse, but I’m working on it with a friend.
More soon, hopefully.
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We can all relax; he's working on it with "a friend"
Should we run a sweep on who that is?
Brian?
The Gilbride?
The Singin' Cowboy?
John Armstrong His Very Self?
Pugsley?
The Fez?
The Real Lee Oswald Who Works with the Real Elvis at Hungry Jack's?
Any other contenders?
He's resorted to saying that he himself now believes that PM is SS in an apparent effort to circumvent that very rule Steely. A smart detective would kick his ass off the forum.
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Re: the lights went out etc
Fri 26 Apr 2019, 3:23 pm
Yes Jake. And with his next breath he stated he didn't wish to start a flame war with the PM crowd. Barrel scraping is the forte of the 2 Oswald crowd...all 6 members.Jake Sykes wrote:steely dan wrote:Would his "friend" be a banned member of the EF?...strictly taboo to proxy post under their site rules. He should know that already...greg parker wrote:"have you thought about accepting John Armstrong into your life?"
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Latest from the PermaClown: Oswald was also challenged on the first floor is a little more obtuse, but I’m working on it with a friend.
More soon, hopefully.
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We can all relax; he's working on it with "a friend"
Should we run a sweep on who that is?
Brian?
The Gilbride?
The Singin' Cowboy?
John Armstrong His Very Self?
Pugsley?
The Fez?
The Real Lee Oswald Who Works with the Real Elvis at Hungry Jack's?
Any other contenders?
He's resorted to saying that he himself now believes that PM is SS in an apparent effort to circumvent that very rule Steely. A smart detective would kick his ass off the forum.
As for kicking him off...it seems some turds just wont flush.
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Checkmate.
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Re: the lights went out etc
Fri 26 Apr 2019, 4:59 pm
My Stretch Of Dealey Plaza, copyrighted just now
Is a tale of a wee chiropractor who has one trick, no pony.
His dog and pony show is a feather in Permaclowns cap (albeit dunce)
The best part of the short's short film is the cgi java.
I give it two stars and 1 can of Ralph's Majik Tonic & Snake Lubricant.
The Acedemy handing RC an award is a fun exercise to bat about.
Monkeys typing Shakespeare's works on accident is more likely though.
A song by Weber, if he were to write a country song about Cinquė, artistically would not follow a usual path of losing the wife, mobile home, and dog, but about Ralph losing respect and every argument. (though Brian still respects him in the morning)
Dingo even backs this terrorism of a film.
Ralph is a onesie at IMDB. Hurrah.
https://m.imdb.com/name/nm10015782/?ref_=m_tt_cl_wr
Well lets all get an Apple and Imovie and cobble it together, we can be famous too...
Thanks lil buddy! Made my year.
Cheer'd Up,
Ed
Is a tale of a wee chiropractor who has one trick, no pony.
His dog and pony show is a feather in Permaclowns cap (albeit dunce)
The best part of the short's short film is the cgi java.
I give it two stars and 1 can of Ralph's Majik Tonic & Snake Lubricant.
The Acedemy handing RC an award is a fun exercise to bat about.
Monkeys typing Shakespeare's works on accident is more likely though.
A song by Weber, if he were to write a country song about Cinquė, artistically would not follow a usual path of losing the wife, mobile home, and dog, but about Ralph losing respect and every argument. (though Brian still respects him in the morning)
Dingo even backs this terrorism of a film.
Ralph is a onesie at IMDB. Hurrah.
https://m.imdb.com/name/nm10015782/?ref_=m_tt_cl_wr
Well lets all get an Apple and Imovie and cobble it together, we can be famous too...
Thanks lil buddy! Made my year.
Cheer'd Up,
Ed
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Re: the lights went out etc
Sun 05 May 2019, 9:09 pm
Have you seen Brother Jimmys latest post on the Ed forum? Looks like he and his "friend" have got it all worked out. Looks like we can all pack up and go home. They've figured out what Oswald was where. The TSBD on the early afternoon of 22nd Nov 63( did i get the date right Larry?) must have been like Brian Doyles head after a night on Owsleys Premier Grade Purple Haze .with imaginary 300lb women and doppelgangers running amok.
Brother Jimmy will be able t make it back up t Bariloche for the summer season after all. Don't forget t buy his latest single.. Kanye West has remixed the Horst Wessel Lied with a tuba solo by Jimmy and a rap by DJ Brian " Buster Balls " Doyle...Sanibel Islands hottest new gangsta rapper " When the limo drove past/ Sarah shook her fine fine ass/ the Aussie Troll said" its just a reflection in the glass/ but i ain't takin none of their sass/ Bart Kamp is a liar/ and I'm gettin' higher and higher/ When that crooked bastard Gordon pulls his wire/ he needs a microscope and a pair of pliers.
Boy, what an interesting life he must lead..chasing doppelgangers..keeping the shrine t Gomez Armstrong brightly polished and when he whips out his accordion...having Wehrmacht issue size XXXXXXXXL bloomers hurled at him by hordes of screaming purple haired hausfraus who still pine for the days when they hung about outside the Berghof for a glimpse of Albert "Adolf" Doyle ( Mr Leibstandarte 1942,43,44,45) in his lederhosen. Why its almost like the good old days of the Anschluss..
I heard Brian still has daddies leather lederhosen..pungently unwashed and full of the scents of the Vaterland..hanging on his wall beside Hermann Goerings girdle and a plaatic bag full of Grace Slicks toenail clippings..nice.
Brother Jimmy will be able t make it back up t Bariloche for the summer season after all. Don't forget t buy his latest single.. Kanye West has remixed the Horst Wessel Lied with a tuba solo by Jimmy and a rap by DJ Brian " Buster Balls " Doyle...Sanibel Islands hottest new gangsta rapper " When the limo drove past/ Sarah shook her fine fine ass/ the Aussie Troll said" its just a reflection in the glass/ but i ain't takin none of their sass/ Bart Kamp is a liar/ and I'm gettin' higher and higher/ When that crooked bastard Gordon pulls his wire/ he needs a microscope and a pair of pliers.
Boy, what an interesting life he must lead..chasing doppelgangers..keeping the shrine t Gomez Armstrong brightly polished and when he whips out his accordion...having Wehrmacht issue size XXXXXXXXL bloomers hurled at him by hordes of screaming purple haired hausfraus who still pine for the days when they hung about outside the Berghof for a glimpse of Albert "Adolf" Doyle ( Mr Leibstandarte 1942,43,44,45) in his lederhosen. Why its almost like the good old days of the Anschluss..
I heard Brian still has daddies leather lederhosen..pungently unwashed and full of the scents of the Vaterland..hanging on his wall beside Hermann Goerings girdle and a plaatic bag full of Grace Slicks toenail clippings..nice.
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A fez! A fez! My kingdom for a fez!!
The last words of King Richard HARVEY Plantagenet III
Bosworth Field 1485
Is that a doppelganger in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me?
Artist, poet, polymath, cancer research prodigy Judyth Vary Baker's first words to Lee HARVEY Oswald. New Orleans April 1963
For every HARVEY there must be an equal and opposite LEE
Professor Sandy Isaac Newton Laverne Shirley Fonzie Larsen's
Famous 1st Law of Doppelganging
" To answer your question I ALWAYS look for mundane reasons for seeming anomalies before considering sinister explanations. Only a fool would do otherwise. And I'm no fool" The esteemed Professor Larsen From his soon to be published self help book " The Trough of Enlightenment "( Trine Day Foreword Vince Palamara)
" Once you prove Davidson's woman's face then Stanton's breasts follow naturally " Brian Doyle
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