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Carl Day and the Palm Print Empty Carl Day and the Palm Print

on Mon 10 Jun 2019, 2:19 am
Thanks to Malcolm Blunt.
Carl Day would not make a sworn statement regarding his handling of the print.......

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on Mon 10 Jun 2019, 9:07 am
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Carl Day and the Palm Print Empty Re: Carl Day and the Palm Print

on Mon 10 Jun 2019, 11:59 pm
Thanks Greg, it s just one of those docs that summarises things rather neat and gets to the point.
Day was told what to say/do when they never had that print in the first place.

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Carl Day and the Palm Print Empty Re: Carl Day and the Palm Print

on Tue 11 Jun 2019, 12:20 pm
makes the timing of Lee being shot...
the rifles return to Dallas PD...
And a belated 27th Nov. print that matched a flat palm print card of Lee, not a distorted curled hand.

Palm Print is Kaput.
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on Thu 13 Jun 2019, 8:47 am
I lean towards absolute suspicion with this guy. I believe (more than I don't) that Day was complicit in framing Lee. Amazing find (and much thanks) BartoBlunt  Cool.
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on Thu 13 Jun 2019, 2:48 pm
I believe the DPD ie Day, did a lift of the barrel when the rifle was returned from FBI, but there was no palm print, just irregularities of the barrels surface which transferred to the tape.
The DPD also had, or placed, Lee's palm print on a flat surface and took the tape lift of rifle barrel and lifted that flat palm print with the same tape ... bam a 'Rifle Barrel' "Palm Print"...
The palm print, or PP, could come from interrogation room, jail cell, an item, chair arm, anywhere Lee was in DPD custody, and or nearly any item he touched/grabbed, with his hand, that was condusive to fingerprints.
So was that Day's delay.
Finding a good PP of Lee's to use the worthless barrel lift in conjunction with to frame a dead man.
Cheers, Ed
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Carl Day and the Palm Print Empty Re: Carl Day and the Palm Print

on Fri 14 Jun 2019, 11:02 am
Ed. Ledoux wrote:I believe the DPD ie Day, did a lift of the barrel when the rifle was returned from FBI, but there was no palm print, just irregularities of the barrels surface which transferred to the tape.
The DPD also had, or placed, Lee's palm print on a flat surface and took the tape lift of rifle barrel and lifted that flat palm print with the same tape ... bam a 'Rifle Barrel' "Palm Print"...
The palm print, or PP, could come from interrogation room, jail cell, an item, chair arm, anywhere Lee was in DPD custody, and or nearly any item he touched/grabbed, with his hand, that was condusive to fingerprints.
So was that Day's delay.
Finding a good PP of Lee's to use the worthless barrel lift in conjunction with to frame a dead man.
Cheers, Ed

Ed are you of the opinion that Day was complicit to some degree with framing the Patsy?
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on Fri 14 Jun 2019, 4:25 pm
The evidence shows him incompetent at best BC.
Only JC Day is accountable for this.
Since he did it after Lee's death I would not call him complicit in framing Lee. No trial no frame up.
Day is responsible for his actions and or inactions and what light that shines on the DPD is of his own making.
Wouldn't you agree.
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on Sun 16 Jun 2019, 10:41 am
Then there is this find I made on the day when the docs were released almost two years ago.
This is laughable, no really.
https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32262580.pdf

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Carl Day and the Palm Print Empty Re: Carl Day and the Palm Print

on Fri 21 Jun 2019, 8:18 am
Ed. Ledoux wrote:The evidence shows him incompetent at best BC.
Only JC Day is accountable for this.
Since he did it after Lee's death I would not call him complicit in framing Lee. No trial no frame up.
Day is responsible for his actions and or inactions and what light that shines on the DPD is of his own making.
Wouldn't you agree.

Certainly makes sense Ed, for sure. Thanks for that.
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on Fri 21 Jun 2019, 9:00 am
I see it as one of the many fabrications
Bus ride
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Palm print
Was Brian Doyle working there......?

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on Thu 26 Sep 2019, 12:27 am
This doc is regarding the clip
No idea who wrote it or whether there was a reply.
Thanks to Malcolm Blunt.

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on Mon 05 Oct 2020, 3:58 pm
Barto CE142, the long "wrapper" was most likely constructed by Studebaker for Day to "transport" the rifle back to the Lab. They changed their minds when it was felt the wrapping would disturb any prints. Almost all the evidence, when assembled points to this conclusion. After Oswald was killed, all parties fell into line, particularly Day and Studebaker who knew that Oswald's prints could not have been on the sack the night of the assassination. The FBI needed those prints to be there.
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Carl Day and the Palm Print Empty Re: Carl Day and the Palm Print

on Tue 06 Oct 2020, 7:11 pm
The September 9, 1968, letter to Lt. J.C. Day could possibly have been written by Dr. John Kingsley Lattimer, a urologist who wrote a book on the JFK assassination in 1980.

The clue to his identity are the letters at the foot of the letter, viz JKL:MJ.  This indicates the author's initials are JKL, and the typist's initials were MJ.
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Carl Day and the Palm Print Empty Re: Carl Day and the Palm Print

on Wed 07 Oct 2020, 1:29 pm
"...found the brown paper bag shaped like a gun case..."

If this brown paper bag looked so much like a gun case even though it was now empty, imagine how much more it looked like a gun case when it held the rifle. 

As I recall, Rose gave a similar description of the now empty blanket.

So how did Buell and Mike not immediately understand what was inside the bag and blanket respectively?

There is another potential issue as well. The paper bag allegedly held the rifle broken down. Would the broken down rifle held in this sack still look like a rifle case?

As I recall, the new rifles on display in Truly's office a couple of days prior, were in cases and did not need assembling when taken out, r disassembling when put back in. 

The police may have made a bag that was too small to completely cover the 40 inch MC. They didn't need to completely conceal what was inside so it didn't matter.

But another explanation for the bag was that it was made for the 36 inch MC that was originally ordered.

In this scenario, someone knew the 36 inch model was ordered but didn't know that a 40 inch model was going to be used in the frame.

I think the 36 inch model was ordered and received and is what we see in the faked BYP. If so, the 40 inch model was a late replacement, probably because the 36 incher had served a different purpose and had been disposed of.

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Carl Day and the Palm Print Empty Re: Carl Day and the Palm Print

on Wed 07 Oct 2020, 9:15 pm
I believe this is an image of the wrapper on top of one of the boxes in the SN. It is a zoom in on one of the photos taken by Studebaker after the departure of Day with the rifle and the removal of the other crime scene materials by Montgomery and Johnson at 3pm. Doesn’t look to have held anything of substance does it?

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on Fri 16 Oct 2020, 6:21 am
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Thanks to Malcolm Blunt.

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