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Bob Dylan Brings it Home
Fri 27 Mar 2020, 11:54 pm
My wife and I wept:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NbQkyvbw18&feature=emb_logo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NbQkyvbw18&feature=emb_logo
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Re: Bob Dylan Brings it Home
Sat 28 Mar 2020, 8:12 am
It’s somehow reassuring to learn that Bob Dylan isn’t a lone nutter and that he refers to the JFK assassination as the beginning of ‘the Age of the Antichrist’. It kind of makes it official.
As someone over at the Education Forum said, it sounds like Uncle Bob has read James Douglass’s book JFK and the Unspeakable.
As someone over at the Education Forum said, it sounds like Uncle Bob has read James Douglass’s book JFK and the Unspeakable.
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Re: Bob Dylan Brings it Home
Sat 28 Mar 2020, 10:21 am
I'd happily use this song in any Doco or film on the JFK assassination. The song remains unreleased officially. Wonder who Bob's agent is? I like this tune a lot, sent shivers up my spine.
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Re: Bob Dylan Brings it Home
Sat 28 Mar 2020, 12:09 pm
Jake Sykes wrote:My wife and I wept:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NbQkyvbw18&feature=emb_logo
I suspect it could have been about playing old maid and had the same effect such is the haunted quality of the music and his voice. But the actual subject matter and treatment of it just takes it to a whole new level.
For me, it is heartening to see that he has changed his thinking since the drunken speech he gave in 1964, saying he could understand why Oswald did it.
I love Dylan (have seen him 3 times in concert), but was always a bit pissed that he never gave Oswald the same treatment he gave Hurricane Carter. He's made up for it in spades now.
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Re: Bob Dylan Brings it Home
Sat 28 Mar 2020, 12:41 pm
He didn't mention Sara...Doyle will launch another lawsuit.
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Re: Bob Dylan Brings it Home
Sat 28 Mar 2020, 12:45 pm
My tweet to Bob fwiw
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LHO was framed in the same way as Ruben & every innocent person freed through the Innocence Project. Oswald tho cannot get any help because he was murdered before trial. Yr voice and this song Bob could do for Lee what Hurricane did for Ruben
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LHO was framed in the same way as Ruben & every innocent person freed through the Innocence Project. Oswald tho cannot get any help because he was murdered before trial. Yr voice and this song Bob could do for Lee what Hurricane did for Ruben
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Re: Bob Dylan Brings it Home
Sat 28 Mar 2020, 1:31 pm
Echoed my sentiments exactly Greg,greg parker wrote:Jake Sykes wrote:My wife and I wept:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NbQkyvbw18&feature=emb_logo
I suspect it could have been about playing old maid and had the same effect such is the haunted quality of the music and his voice. But the actual subject matter and treatment of it just takes it to a whole new level.
For me, it is heartening to see that he has changed his thinking since the drunken speech he gave in 1964, saying he could understand why Oswald did it.
I love Dylan (have seen him 3 times in concert), but was always a bit pissed that he never gave Oswald the same treatment he gave Hurricane Carter. He's made up for it in spades now.
It is haunting in my opinion.
Love it.
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Re: Bob Dylan Brings it Home
Sat 28 Mar 2020, 2:28 pm
Haunting indeed and very deeply so.
I wonder if people cooped up at home during these times will, after hearing this song, become motivated to update themselves on the JFKA latest. Perhaps they'll discover Prayer Man, ROKC, Beckley, etc. in great numbers for the very first time.
I have to believe Dylan will see that it's Oswald on the steps and call for clear scans if he takes a look at it. And that he'll appeal to the Innocence Project. Clearly it's been eating at him for his whole life (just like for a vast lot of people). He could blast right through all the nonsense that populates the JFKA community by taking up the latest evidence, processing it through the genius of his poetic lens, and broadcasting it around the world.
I'll always be grateful for this work and for the grace he's shown in not capitalizing on it. To my mind, it presents a profound concept that I never really saw but perhaps felt: that the fractured trajectory wrought by the incredibly harsh reality of the assassination, the lies, and the killings that followed, drove nearly every facet of popular culture to hysterical extremes. In that way, these traumas shaped everything that followed, and continue to up to this very day.
I wonder if people cooped up at home during these times will, after hearing this song, become motivated to update themselves on the JFKA latest. Perhaps they'll discover Prayer Man, ROKC, Beckley, etc. in great numbers for the very first time.
I have to believe Dylan will see that it's Oswald on the steps and call for clear scans if he takes a look at it. And that he'll appeal to the Innocence Project. Clearly it's been eating at him for his whole life (just like for a vast lot of people). He could blast right through all the nonsense that populates the JFKA community by taking up the latest evidence, processing it through the genius of his poetic lens, and broadcasting it around the world.
I'll always be grateful for this work and for the grace he's shown in not capitalizing on it. To my mind, it presents a profound concept that I never really saw but perhaps felt: that the fractured trajectory wrought by the incredibly harsh reality of the assassination, the lies, and the killings that followed, drove nearly every facet of popular culture to hysterical extremes. In that way, these traumas shaped everything that followed, and continue to up to this very day.
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Re: Bob Dylan Brings it Home
Sat 28 Mar 2020, 2:58 pm
Interesting that you guys say "haunting" which has a different meaning to the word I used. Not necessarily wrong. Just different.
That's just the way it is. Different people, different perceptions.
Maybe both are right. Or "right".
Apart from some aid concerts and Rubin Carter, Dylan has steered clear of direct involvement in politics, movements and causes unless you count his lyrics, often couched vaguely or cryptically. Maybe this will be different.
As for using it free of royalties... that may be possible. He seems to have released on twitter as a "gift" to fans. But still wise to have it checked out.
That's just the way it is. Different people, different perceptions.
Maybe both are right. Or "right".
Apart from some aid concerts and Rubin Carter, Dylan has steered clear of direct involvement in politics, movements and causes unless you count his lyrics, often couched vaguely or cryptically. Maybe this will be different.
As for using it free of royalties... that may be possible. He seems to have released on twitter as a "gift" to fans. But still wise to have it checked out.
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Re: Bob Dylan Brings it Home
Sat 28 Mar 2020, 3:30 pm
Dylan has steered clear of direct involvement in politics, movements and causes
For all the millions of Dylan fans out there, perhaps this is finally a call to action?
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Re: Bob Dylan Brings it Home
Sat 28 Mar 2020, 3:52 pm
Maybe, but doubt too many would pick up on it being that - not without clearer messages from the Man.Jake Sykes wrote:Dylan has steered clear of direct involvement in politics, movements and causes
For all the millions of Dylan fans out there, perhaps this is finally a call to action?
That doesn't mean we cannot try and turn it into one.
I do think it's possible it will get people googling the subject as you suggested before I think? And that's a start!
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Re: Bob Dylan Brings it Home
Mon 30 Mar 2020, 11:59 am
https://gregrparker.com/forums/topic/murder-most-foul-bob-dylan/#postid-47
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"I've been aware of Greg Parker's work for years, and strongly recommend it." Peter Dale Scott
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