Rick O'Shay in Dallas Part One

^{* "Poor bugger me". A derogattory expression used to describe someone feeling sorry for themselves, especially in regard to their treatment by others, and are generally looking for sympathy and an easier path/preferential treatment} 

https://www.tampabay.com/archive/1999/11/19/ricochet-in-dallas/
Ricochet in Dallas
By
DAVE SCHEIBER
Published Nov. 19, 1999|Updated Sep. 30, 2005

Most of the time, the thoughts linger just below the surface.

Cue violins.

She manages to keep them there, out of mind, until the next story about President John F. Kennedy or Lee Harvey Oswald hits the news. For Ruth Hyde Paine, the recollections are still tinged with regret and sorrow, still hard to discuss after so many years.

Yet she keeps finding the strength... while ever it is friendly fire, soft balls, wrong-headed questions or sympathy coming her way...

With the opening of the major JFK exhibit nearby at the Florida International Museum, and the approaching 36th anniversary on Monday of Kennedy's assassination, the 67-year-old St. Petersburg resident and retired educator has been reflecting more frequently on the tragedy _ and the events that pulled her directly into its midst as an innocent player.

Poor bugger me...

In the months before the shooting, Nov. 21, 1963, Paine unwittingly had become entangled in the deceit and dysfunction that linked Oswald and his new Russian wife, Marina. 

"Unwittingly" just had to be slid in there... so what "deceit" and "dysfunction" is being referred to. And on whose part?

It was a relationship, Paine says, that left her forever changed, and might have altered the course of history if only she could have known more about Oswald _ and known it sooner.

Hmmm. Imagine how history would have been different if that numbskull ex of yours had told you about the weapons he "knew" Oswald owned. You could then have made an informed decision to not allow him within cooee* of you ranch-style suburban nightmare. 

^{* Cooee is the distance your average Australian housewife can call out that it's dinnertime. A fucking long way.} 

"Those thoughts come up, but I try to tell myself there's no point in pursuing that line of thinking," she says in her office at St. Petersburg's Religious Society of Friends Meeting House.

"I do find it a strain to talk about it. Often, I don't. I don't bring it up myself. There's still a sense of loss. It was the most grief I'd ever felt."

More poor bugger me. But that was not the case in the immediate aftermath when you put everything aside - EVERYTHING including looking after your own fucking kids - in order to be available as the media darling/victim of the day. 

In 1963, Paine was a 31-year-old mother of two little children in Irving, Texas, separated from her husband. As a devoted Quaker, she wanted to reach out for the cause of peace and learn to speak Russian. As a caring person, she wanted to reach out to help a needy young mother, Marina, who could teach her the language in return.

"As a devoted Quaker" lol. She learned to speak Russian as a fringe player in the "break-up-the-Soviet-Union" league.

"As a caring person" lol. She had never reached out to help individuals on her own dime and in her own private non-Quaker time in her entire fucking life.  Marina must have been truly "special" lol.

Looking back, though, Paine wishes she had never met the Oswalds at a party in February that year. If their paths had not crossed, so much would have been different.

She would never have offered comfort and assistance to Marina _ isolated in her new home in Dallas with an odd, belligerent husband, able to speak only her native tongue, pregnant with the couple's second child, and without any solid means of support.

So you and the numbskull talked about using Marina as a tax break - abandoned that when you realized it wouldn't float and decided she would be good value help around the house and a live-in babysitter cum language teacher while Lee could do odd jobs.

She would never have driven Marina 500 miles to New Orleans in May so the Oswalds could live together, or driven her back to Irving in September, so Marina could get proper medical care before having her baby. 

Oh I see... if you had known that he was not only "odd" and "belligerent" but also a gun-owning threat to democracy, you would have completely abandoned Marina. Hmmm. Maybe the numskull kept the information about Lee being a gun-toting revolutionary from you because he knew you would abondand the waif-like Marina had you known. Mike the Numbskull is now the real hero here!

She would never have brought Marina, 21, into her home as a live-in guest during the two months leading to the assassination; never let Oswald, 25, stay there almost every weekend, help teach him to drive a car, let him watch football on her TV and play with her own two children.

Yes, exactly. Ptui to both of them. If Marina didn't want to help clean, babysit and teach me and my rich student Russian for just room and board, then fuck her and the Soviet missile she rode in on, and she can go and live with that freak. 

She would never, mainly as a favor to Marina, have made a call to the personnel director of the Book Depository, ultimately helping Oswald land his job there overlooking Dealey Plaza in downtown Dallas.

LOL. Manipulated by Marina. Poor bugger me.

She would never have had to deal with the most difficult memory of all: the garage.

Inside the blanket.

Was kept... drumroll... parts for the crib. 

She recounts the story in solemn, soft tones, one that was thoroughly documented in the Warren Commission Report, which relied on Paine's testimony more than that of any other private citizen. Her name appears more than 200 times.

Of course they relied on her. Jesus H Christ. You couldn't rely on Marina.

Nicely done Greg!
Pathetic prop up piece.
Media could do more than harmonize with a accomplice in a murder. Could but won't.

greg_parker wrote:

In 1963, Paine was a 31-year-old mother of two little children in Irving, Texas, separated from her husband. As a devoted Quaker, she wanted to reach out for the cause of peace and learn to speak Russian. As a caring person, she wanted to reach out to help a needy young mother, Marina, who could teach her the language in return.

"As a devoted Quaker" lol. She learned to speak Russian as a fringe player in the "break-up-the-Soviet-Union" league.

"As a caring person" lol. She had never reached out to help individuals on her own dime and in her own private non-Quaker time in her entire fucking life.  Marina must have been truly "special" lol.

One thing I thought was kind of interesting is that her own dad, William Hyde, denied that Ruth could have had any altruistic motivations for taking in Marina:



Finding someone interesting and getting "substantial" comfort from them are a far cry from feeling sorry for them and wanting to help. I thought it was pretty funny that Hyde said that were it not for these selfish motivators, Ruth would have had nothing to do with her. He must have not thought too highly of his own daughter.

JFK_FNG wrote:

greg_parker wrote:

In 1963, Paine was a 31-year-old mother of two little children in Irving, Texas, separated from her husband. As a devoted Quaker, she wanted to reach out for the cause of peace and learn to speak Russian. As a caring person, she wanted to reach out to help a needy young mother, Marina, who could teach her the language in return.

"As a devoted Quaker" lol. She learned to speak Russian as a fringe player in the "break-up-the-Soviet-Union" league.

"As a caring person" lol. She had never reached out to help individuals on her own dime and in her own private non-Quaker time in her entire fucking life.  Marina must have been truly "special" lol.

One thing I thought was kind of interesting is that her own dad, William Hyde, denied that Ruth could have had any altruistic motivations for taking in Marina:



Finding someone interesting and getting "substantial" comfort from them are a far cry from feeling sorry for them and wanting to help. I thought it was pretty funny that Hyde said that were it not for these selfish motivators, Ruth would have had nothing to do with her. He must have not thought too highly of his own daughter.

Good pick up, Tom. 

I also like the comments of the ferry boat skipper employed by the Paines for Naushon Island, the Paine family private holiday retreat. 

He had a cabin next to the the one used by Michael and Ruth and when interviewed by the FBI, he said in so many words that they had a lot of parties, none of which he was invited to, and he was lucky to even just get a "hello" out of them.

Never mix with the hired help.