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Mon 09 May 2022, 12:27 am
There were a couple of comments in the Kaminsky thread about Enfield rifles. I didn't want to derail that thread, by posting there, but I got interested in the references to Enfields in the JFK assassination a couple of years ago, Here's some notes I took along the way:

https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/testimony/rich_n.htm



WC testimony of Nancy Perrin Rich


Mrs. RICH. “Well, apparently from what I could discern, they had some kind of a hitch in their plans. And at that time I point blank spoke up and said, "Well, suppose we discuss the plans in full before we"--meaning my husband and myself--"get into this. I would like to know what we are getting into. And at this point you know by now I certainly have a say in this matter." Then it came out-- boom---quite blank. We were going to bring Cuban refugees out---but we were going to run military supplies and Enfield rifles in.”
(This meeting that Nancy Rich describes took place in 1961)


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From Property Clerk receipt Dallas City Archive Box 6 Folder 2 Item# 6
From Property Clerk receipt Dallas City Archive Box 6 Folder 2 Item# 54

(The DPD Archives footnote doesn't work anymore, of course. I'll have to go back and find them in the Portal to
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From Bernice Moore in the Education Forum 12/23/12
Subject: Re: NBC Announces Enfield .303 Rifle Found on TSBD.6th
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:02:24 -0500
From: "Gary Mack"
Organization: Posted via RemarQ, http://www.remarQ.com - The Internet's Discussion Network
Newsgroups: alt.assassination.jfk,alt.conspiracy.jfk

According to the NBC book "There Was A President," reporter Tom Whalen said, at 2:13pm CST, "The weapon which was used to kill the president, and which wounded Gov. Connally, has been found in the Texas School Book Depository on the sixth floor - a British 303 rifle with a telescopic sight. Three empty cartridge cases were found beside the weapon. It appeared that whoever had occupied this sniper's nest had been here for some time."


https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/qqt01
Texas State Guard. By William C. Wilkes and Mary M. Standifer


The guards drilled in schoolyards and on vacant lots with makeshift weapons until July 1941, when the War Department issued them some surplus rifles. The rifles were recalled in May 1942, and shotguns issued shortly afterward. In 1943 the shotguns were replaced with a full issue of Enfield Rifles, and the units were issued trucks, jeeps, half-tracks, and machine guns.


Facebook posting by an unknown author.
https://www.facebook.com/TexasStateGuard/posts/1576889535692221


Texas State Guard
September 27, 2017 ·
How about a little bit of HISTORY of the Texas State Guard?



With the advent of the Cold War, The Texas State Guard Reserve Corps (TSGRC) was given additional duties — those specific to statewide radio communications and civil defense. By 1951, the TSGRC had 50 fixed radio stations and over 100 automobiles throughout the state – almost all were funded at the personal expense of the operators and heavily used during many natural disasters. With the federalization of the Texas National Guard during the Berlin Crisis in 1961, 71 Texas National Guard Armories were left vacant and a great amount of state property unprotected. To address this, elements of the TSGRC were organized as Texas State Guard Security Units. These units were assigned to the 49th Armored Division and the 11014th Transportation Company, manning their respective armories until these units were returned to their state mission one year later.



Did the National Guard Armory theft involving Lawrence Miller and Donnell Whitter in Terrell, TX. involve any Enfield rifles by any chance?


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Mon 09 May 2022, 3:08 am
Klein's Sporting Goods also sold Enfield rifles for $19.88, plus two different options for mounted scopes. Frazier's gun did have a scope on it, but I don't think the model was ever mentioned.  

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Mon 09 May 2022, 10:43 am
They were spoiled for potential patsies inside that building.

A "commie"

Someone on the local subversive list

A hick from Huntsville with criminal connections

Any of the Black workers

Did they have something in play for each and then ran with what looked the best option as it unfolded? Just a thought bubble. 

But they did also zero in on 3 others -- Givens, Molina, and Frazier.

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Mon 09 May 2022, 6:55 pm
Mannlicher-Carcano, Mauser, or Enfield rifle-- the commonality is that all were sold via mail order at the time, old surplus rifles being unloaded on the cheap to juvenile delinquents and paramilitary-types including the officially-sanctioned, bottom-up militias known as state guards (like the one in Texas, which was the vanguard of the Cold War reinvigoration of the state guard) as well as neonazis re: the Dodd committee.

All three rifles were foreign-made and subject to sale to foreign governments, then reimportation. This reimportation being banned was one of JFK's signature legislative accomplishments as a senator.

There's a lot to unpack with the confusing story of the rifle(s) found on the 22nd of November.

I always wonder: why did the government settle on the Mannlicher-Carcano as the supposed murder weapon? Why not go with the Enfield or the Mauser? Why hasn't some enterprising lone nutter proposed either of them instead?
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Mon 09 May 2022, 10:03 pm
Steve Thomas wrote:There were a couple of comments in the Kaminsky thread about Enfield rifles. I didn't want to derail that thread, by posting there, but I got interested in the references to Enfields in the JFK assassination a couple of years ago, Here's some notes I took along the way:

https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/testimony/rich_n.htm



WC testimony of Nancy Perrin Rich


Mrs. RICH. “Well, apparently from what I could discern, they had some kind of a hitch in their plans. And at that time I point blank spoke up and said, "Well, suppose we discuss the plans in full before we"--meaning my husband and myself--"get into this. I would like to know what we are getting into. And at this point you know by now I certainly have a say in this matter." Then it came out-- boom---quite blank. We were going to bring Cuban refugees out---but we were going to run military supplies and Enfield rifles in.”
(This meeting that Nancy Rich describes took place in 1961)


Did the National Guard Armory theft involving Lawrence Miller and Donnell Whitter in Terrell, TX. involve any Enfield rifles by any chance?


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In November, 1963, Kenneth L. Anderton was a Patrolman in the Patrol Division, Second Platoon, Captained by Cecil Talbert. Partnered with John P. Adamcik.
Bachelor Exhibit 5002 page 8 of pdf file
https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/pdf/WH19_Batchelor_Ex_5002.pdf


In his after-action Report, Anderton said that on November 22nd, he was on vacation, but that after JFK was shot, Lt. Wells called him and told him to report to work. When he got there, his partner, J. P. Adamcik was “out with other detectives”.
DPD Archives Box 3, Folder# 2, Item# 1.
https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth338913/?q=Anderton


Police Officers Adamcik (7H202), Rose (7H227) and Stovall (7H186) are unanimous in saying that Captain Fritz dispatched them to Irving at 2:30 PM. They are also unanimous in saying that when they arrived at this address at about 3:00 PM, they had to wait for 35-40 minutes for the Deputy Sheriffs to arrive since Irving was outside their jurisdiction.


On December 1, 1963 Richard Borchgardt (who had appeared in a lineup alongside Lee Harvey Oswald) told Patrolman Kenneth Anderton that he had information that Jack Ruby was involved in a gun running scheme involving Lawrence Miller, et.al. In his Report, Anderton mistakenly calls him Robert Borchgardt.
Portal to Texas History John F. Kennedy Memorial Collection
https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth338950/?q=Anderton

Anderton also took an affidavit from James Worrell.
DPD Archives Box 3, Folder# 2, Item# 1.
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box3.htm

Compare the Borchgardt/Anderton story to the account of John Elrod in
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1WyKEuHna_3CYy8JmWzUWYSLc3PmVpNK_
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Though Anderton is listed in the Batchelor’s Exhibit 5002 as a Patrolman in the Patrol Division, his obituary said that he worked in Homicide.
Kenneth L. "Andy" Anderton
Dallas Morning News May 21, 2005.
http://obits.dallasnews.com/obituaries/dallasmorningnews/obituary.aspx?n=kenneth-l-anderton-andy&pid=3566572


ANDERTON, KENNETH "Andy" L. 72 of Eustace, TX. passed away May 29, in Tyler, TX. Grew up in the Dallas area. Worked for Ford Motor Co. for a short time. Served in the US Marine Corp. as a flight instructor. After the service he joined and retired after 23 years of service with the Dallas Police Force in the homicide department where he was involved in the investigation during the time President Kennedy was assassinated . He left homicide and joined the intelligence division and was involved in many special projects, some with the FBI. He was a Master Mason at the East Dallas #1200 Lodge. After retirement he worked at Cornerstone Granite & Marble where he coordinated the building of the playground at Scottish Rite Hospital. Survived by his wife, Deane Anderton, son, Mark Anderton, step-sons, Michael Wayne & Patrick Wayne, half brother, Phillip Anderton.

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Thu 12 May 2022, 1:21 pm
Great stuff Steve!

Here is the 'three hole' scope mount drill and tap info.

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Thu 12 May 2022, 1:27 pm
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