The Case of the Nuisance Phone Calls Redux
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The Case of the Nuisance Phone Calls Redux
Sat 14 Dec 2013, 3:29 am
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In 2011 I started a thread on the Education Forum that focused on a long neglected assassination story. The thread received little attention which truly surprised me because I believed the story had some areas that could have shone some light on the wider assassination story. When I first stumbled upon it the language contained in the FBI documents had familiar hallmarks that I had seen in other documents related to other witnesses when what the witness was saying was not what the FBI wanted to hear. The witness who was at the centre of the story, a man named Marion Meharg, very quickly became the victim of counter allegations from a variety of different people and, in my opinion, had his initial observations that he relayed to the police on the evening of 11/22/63 buried under an avalanche of criticism and possible harassment. I always felt there was more to this story and I have believed in Marion Meharg the way I have always believed in Lee Harvey Oswald.
The story is quite a long one and I ask that members here just digest what I am about to present because there is a small new development in the story that I want to share with everybody that could shed new light on why Marion Meharg became a target for authorities after the assassination rather than a witness. I promise that if you haven't read this story before, and you keep an open mind, you will find it thought provoking and very interesting. It starts with an observation made by Marion Meharg minutes after the assassination of President Kennedy which places him in Dealey Plaza at 12:30pm that afternoon and it soon develops into a story that brings into the fold some of the key assassination witnesses who we can prove are abject liars but who were favoured over a man who was portrayed as a serial nuisance caller who suffered from mental problems.
The links in the following do not work but I will ensure I replace them as soon as I get a chance. Enjoy, and I hope you can help me develop this story further when I post what the new development is concerning the sad story of Marion Meharg:
The Case of the Nuisance Phone Calls
"That station wagon belongs to Mrs. Ruth Paine. Don't try to tie her into this.” – Lee Harvey Oswald, November 22nd, 1963
On December 2nd, 1963, FBI Special Agent Alfred C. Ellington received a phone call. The caller, who allegedly didn’t give his name, claimed that on the afternoon of November 22nd, 1963, within minutes of the assassination of the President, he “…observed a man come out of the Texas School Book Depository building, jump off the loading dock…run across Houston Street and get into a 1956 green and white Chevrolet station wagon [and] that he further observed the license number on this vehicle and believes the first four digits were PW 17.”
The caller’s name was Marion Meharg and the call would become a long forgotten but incredibly strange by-story to the events of November 22nd, 1963.
Marion B. Meharg was born in Terrell, Texas, on the 7th of April 1912 and was divorced from a woman named Mildred. The 51 year old had two children with her, both boys, as well as two step-daughters and the separation by all accounts was a messy one. Marion Meharg wanted custody of his boys and in November 1963 was calling his ex-mother-in-law to try and establish where his children were. Mildred Meharg had remarried in September, 1963, to a man named David Leon Miller.
Mildred’s mother when interviewed by the FBI painted a very unfavourable picture of Meharg. The mother of Mildred Meharg was called Mrs. B. K. (Bernice) Click. A surname that will strongly resonate with seasoned JFK researchers and is a curiosity that I personally find quite intriguing. Click told authorities that Meharg had threatened her daughter and had threatened to kill himself. The FBI immediately took Mrs. Click at her word and put Meharg down as a suicide risk with no further investigation into these threats needed.
When reading the FBI Special Agent interviews relating to Marion Meharg we are left with the impression that the first time Meharg contacted any investigation body regarding what he saw at the rear of the TSBD was in early December, 1963. However, Meharg’s telephone call to SA Ellington that detailed a man leaving the rear of the TSBD and getting into a 1956 Chevrolet Station Wagon was not the first time he made contact with the authorities. Marion Meharg first called the Dallas Police Department several times on the night of the assassination to tell them the same story; albeit anonymously.
Alveeta Treon (of the John Hurt note story) was interviewed by Harold Rose of the HSCA in 1978 and she told Rose the following:
“Alveeta Treon, who worked as a telephone operator at Dallas City Hall on Nov. 22, 1963, had told me [HSCA investigator Harold Rose] on a prior occasion that on the night of the assassination, a man called the Dallas Police Department several times and wanted to report that there was a second assassin but she said that the P.D. dismissed it as a prank call. Mrs. Treon told me that she copied the information down and would try to locate it and call me. On this date [5/15/78], she called and stated that the man that called never gave his name, but he gave the name of the man that he said was the second assassin. The man’s name was David Miller and that he fired the second shot. He carried the rifle with him when he exited out of the rear of the TSBD. David Miller then left in a car bearing Texas license plates T W 1784. This car was reportedly listed to David Miller’s wife Mildred. Mrs. Treon stated that the original notes she took are in her hand writing and we have them if we wanted.”
The story of Marion Meharg developed over a five month period with a series of ever bizarre phone calls to a whole host of different people.
Let us delve into how the story evolved.
Meharg allegedly called the Dallas Police on the evening of the assassination to tell them that he saw a man leave the rear of the Texas School Book Depository building. He named the man as David Miller and that he fired the second shot. Miller left with the weapon in a car bearing Texas license plate TW 1784. Meharg, we are told, did not leave his name.
We all know that Roger Craig had been talking to members of the Dallas Police Department on the evening of the assassination about his sighting of a man fitting Oswald’s description leaving the TSBD in a light colored Nash Rambler Station Wagon, yet Alveeta Treon who took the call from the anonymous tipster said that the DPD put the anonymous call down as a prank.
On December 2nd Marion Meharg allegedly called SA Albert Ellington of the Dallas FBI and told him that he saw a man leave the TSBD after jumping down from the loading dock and leave in a 1956 green and white Chevrolet Station Wagon on Houston Street. The first four digits of the license plate numbers being PW 17. Once again, Meharg did not leave his name.
On December 5th, 1963, the FBI went and interviewed a Miss Linda Freeman at 6205 Silvery Moon Drive. Freeman was the step-daughter of Kenneth Dowdy who lived at the Silvery Moon address. Dowdy was a friend of David Leon Miller who had married Marion Meharg’s ex-wife Mildred. Freeman advised the FBI that David Miller had resided with them at the address for about one week several months ago. She further advised that both David and Marion Miller had since departed and were believed to be travelling out of the State of Texas. Freeman stated she had not seen Mildred or David in at least a month. This is quite strange interview because the calls, up to this point in time, had not been followed up and we are told the caller was anonymous.
On December 11th, 1963, Charles T. Brown of the Dallas FBI Office received a phone call from Marion Meharg. This time Meharg left his name and address. He inquired as to whether Agents of the FBI Office had located a green and white Chevrolet station wagon which he had previously called to the attention of this office. This I find peculiar because the previous reports of the phone calls leave the reader with the distinct impression that Meharg was reluctant to be identified. According to SA Charles Brown he was familiar with the name Marion Meharg as having made several previous calls to the office reporting on the activities of a woman driving a green and white Chevrolet station wagon. SA Brown was also cognizant of information obtained from a Mrs. Click, mother in law of Meharg, in which Mrs. Click advised Bureau agents that Meharg had for several months attempted to cause trouble for his former wife by reporting her to the Dallas Police Department on unfounded complaints. Brown finishes by advising Meharg that the Dallas Office had no information for release concerning the information discussed by Meharg.
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On December 12th, 1963, Jane Jenkins was interviewed by SA Maurice J. White. Jenkins was the fourteen year old daughter of Meharg’s ex-wife Mildred and she lived with her grandmother Bernice Click in Dallas. Miss Jenkins stated that she was visiting her mother in Atlanta, Georgia, where Mildred now lived, and returned to Dallas on Sunday, November 17, 1963. Jenkins also advised that her mother still owned a 1956 Chevrolet station wagon, and still maintained Texas plates on the car. Jenkins said as far as she knew the automobile is still in Georgia and was in Georgia on November 22, 1963.
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On the same day that Miss Jenkins was interviewed, December 12th, 1963, Bernice Click was contacted by the FBI for the first time. SA Maurice White did the interview. Once again this is a little bit strange seeing as how SA Brown knew about Mrs. Click on December 11th when Meharg called him and Brown’s claim that Click had contacted the FBI prior to the December 12th date. There is no report in the record that documents any phone calls or any sort of contact from Bernice Click. In Click’s interview on December 12, she stated that she is the mother of Mildred Miller who was formerly married to Marion Meharg. She advised that her daughter remarried approximately two months ago to a David Miller and moved to Atlanta, Georgia. They presently reside at 186—13th Street, N.E., Apartment 2, Atlanta. Click stated that Mildred’s daughters, Jane and Judy Jenkins were in Atlanta, visiting their mother on November 17, 1963 and were now staying with her at her own address of 905 Barnett in Dallas. The interviewing agent did not ask Mrs. Click why Mildred’s daughters were not living with their mother. Click stated that she had been contacted by Marion Meharg on several occasions where he is attempting to locate the address of his former wife and he is attempting to regain custody of his two boys. She further stated that Meharg had in the past threatened Mildred with a knife and threatened to commit suicide. She did not know where he is presently employed and does not hold a job more than one week. She told SA White that her daughter still owned the 1956 Chevrolet station wagon. Nowhere in this interview does Click state that Meharg has been making “unfounded complaints to the Dallas Police Department” as is written in SA Brown’s report from the day before on December 11th. Click simply states Meharg was trying to locate his ex-wife because he wanted his two boys back.
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On December 14th, 1963, the FBI finally caught up with Marion Meharg. He was interviewed by FBI Special Agent’s John Murrer and Maurice White. Meharg advised the agents that he resided at 2102 Village Way, Dallas, Texas with his sister Mrs. Loretta Avery. He was interviewed at his place of work, the Cooperative Delivery Service where he was employed as a mechanic. Murrer and White asked him if he was the same man who furnished information to SA Alfred Ellington on December 2nd concerning certain events taking place on the day of President Kennedy’s assassination in the vicinity of the TSBD and Meharg told them that he had spoken to Ellington and given him certain information.
Now, here's the strange bit. Instead of asking Meharg for all that he knew concerning the events that he claimed he saw regarding the assassination of the President of the United States, the two Special Agents instead advised Marion Meharg that to knowingly furnish false information to federal officers was a violation of federal law. He was advised that he did not have to make a statement or answer any questions, and that any statement made by him or questions answered could be used against him in a court of law. This was exactly the same tactic used by the FBI with Richard Randolph Carr on the expressed order of J. Edgar Hoover no less. So, Meharg was advised of his right to seek legal counsel before answering any questions. He was advised again that if he now furnished information which is false and which he knew to be false, he could be prosecuted.
Meharg was then asked by the FBI Special Agents if he advised Alfred C. Ellington on December 2, 1963 as follows:
"That within a matter of minutes after President Kennedy was shot, he observed a man come out of the Texas School Book Depository loading dock at the rear of the building, run across Houston Street and get into a 1956 green and white Chevrolet station wagon; that he further observed the license number on this vehicle and believes the first four digits were PW 17. He was further asked that did his former wife not own a 1956 green and white Chevrolet station wagon with a 1963 Texas license PW 1784."
Meharg stated that he did furnish SA Ellington this information and advised that he was worried about his two boys who are in the custody of his former wife, Mildred, and id afraid she might have gotten mixed up in this affair. He stated he is sure he observed a 1956 green and white Chevrolet station wagon on Houston Street with Texas license starting with PW or PB or PF or something, and was afraid it was hers.
Meharg was asked if he made anonymous phone calls to the Dallas Office of the FBI stating that license number PW 1784 was a lead in this case and Meharg replied that he did make an anonymous call and also called the Texas Highway Patrol. Meharg said he did this because he was worried about his two sons and was afraid his wife was mixed up in some way. Meharg said he didn’t want to furnish false information and repeated he was worried about his boys. He said he didn’t know where his former wife was and wanted to find her and her two boys. The SA’s reminded him again of federal law and furnishing false information could result in his being prosecuted.
The funny thing about this is Meharg was adamant and even with FBI threats of prosecution he reiterated he was positive he saw someone jump off the loading platform of the TSBD and get into a 1956 Chevrolet station wagon which was occupied by at least one other man and drive away. The license was similar to that of his former wife and she owned a similar described car. In any event Meharg was claiming to be an assassination witness but the FBI were more concerned with discrediting him rather than exploring whether he was actually there in Dealey Plaza.
Meharg was asked if he called the FBI and said that a woman with a green and white Chevrolet station wagon, Texas license PW 1984 and who has “hung out” at the Carousel Club, was seen picking up Oswald in Irving. He did not answer this question and continued to state that he is worried about his boys.
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There is no mention in the record prior to the Meharg FBI interview on December 14th of an anonymous call suggesting that a woman driving a 1956 green and white Chevrolet station wagon who hung out at the Carousel Club was seen picking up Oswald. It is this that set off alarm bells for me and with good reason.
On November 25th, 1963, a man (who refused to identify himself) called the Fort Worth, Texas, Resident Agency Office, stating that about the date of the Texas-Oklahoma game in Dallas, Texas, (October 12, 1963) he saw a male in a car with “Margie” (Last Name Unknown), a waitress at the Carousel Club. He stated “Margie” at that time was driving a 1956 Chevrolet 4-door, white and red in color. This male caller stated that after viewing a photograph of Lee Harvey Oswald in the paper, he was of the opinion the person in the car with Margie was Oswald. This individual said he had no other information concerning this matter. Margie had been identified as Margie Norman.
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Margie Norman was identified and interviewed on November 29th, 1963, more than two weeks before Marion Meharg was asked about this on December 14th. So it is no wonder that Meharg “did not answer” this question when allegedly asked by Special Agent’s Murrer and White. We will come back to this in a later post because this event is directly linked to Larry Crafard which I would like everybody to bear in mind.
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Curiously two days after the Meharg interview, on December 16th, 1963, the FBI reported the following:
“Assistant District Attorney BILL ALEXANDER, Dallas County, furnished the Dallas FBI Office with a memorandum as follows:
Mr. Wade,
We had an anonymous phone call who gave the following information on the JACK RUBY case.
“This woman drives a car, PW1784, and they all left town after this killing. The woman’s name is Mildred. Another woman named Click who lives on South Barnett knows where this woman is. David Miller is a man who runs with Click. They are connected with Lee Oswald and also Jack Ruby.”
He said not to turn this over to the FBI but to get the woman and he thinks she will squeal."
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On December 27th, 1963, FBI SA Alfred D. Neeley went and interviewed Mrs. Bernice Click again. Mrs. Click advised that Marion Meharg telephoned her on or about December 15, 1963 [the day after he was interviewed by the FBI] saying he was sending Judy Jenkins, age 16, and Janie Jenkins, age 14, Meharg’s step-daughters, Christmas gifts.
Mrs. Click stated she received three calls from Meharg and in the first two calls Meharg inquired whether the gifts had been received and she advised him they hadn’t. Click said the third call from Meharg stated he had put a “tracer“ on the packages and the Post Office Department had advised him that the FBI picked up the packages for inspection. Mrs. Click stated she was aware of the investigation being made of Meharg by the FBI but did nothing in regard to these statements at that time.
She advised that she received a long distance telephone call from her daughter, Mrs. David (Mildred) Miller, 186 13th Street N.E., Atlanta, Georgia on December 25th wanting to know if they had received her gifts to Judy and Janie Jenkins which she had sent via airmail December 22, 1963, and an airmail letter to her, Mrs. Click, containing a money order which was her Christmas gift, also mailed December 22.
Mrs. Click stated she had not received either the gifts or the letter and, therefore [for some reason], she wanted to advise the FBI of this information.
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Now things take an unusual turn.
At 10:40 PM on January 2nd, 1964, Mr, Jerry Duncan, Duncan’s Humble Service Station, 1030 North Zang’s Boulevard, Dallas, Texas, telephonically contacted the Dallas FBI Office and advised Night Clerk Forrest L. Lucy that his station is across the street from where Lee Harvey Oswald lived in Oak Cliff section of Dallas (1026 North Beckley).
Duncan advised that he had received a telephone call at his service station on that evening from a person who identified himself as EDWARD Miller who stated that he (Miller) had assisted Oswald in escaping from the scene of the assassination of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy on November 22, 1963.
Duncan said the caller asked him if the FBI had been talking to him and he said they had but not recently. The person said “I don’t want you telling the FBI I had anything to do with Oswald.”
Duncan stated he told this person he did not know him and the caller replied, “Yes, you do and you’d better not tell anyone you know me.” Duncan said the called sounded like and old man who was drunk.
The next day, January 3rd, Duncan said the same person called him again and inquired as to whom he had been talking. Duncan refused to answer and the person said “Well, you’d better not tell anyone anything about me.” Duncan advised he asked the caller to identify himself but he refused and on this call he appeared sober.
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Then the phone rang at 1026 North Beckley. Mrs. A. C. Johnson, who identified herself as Lee Harvey Oswald’s landlady to the interviewing FBI agents, telephonically advised that one day last week [prior to the Duncan call] she received a telephone call from an unidentified man wanting to know if David Miller lived at that address. She told this person that Miller did not live there. The caller said Miller drove an old white station wagon and that he understood that Miller had lived there. Mrs. Johnson stated she thought that this was a bill collector trying to locate David Miller, and she paid no attention to the call.
Johnson stated that at about 10:30 PM on January 2nd, 1964, she started receiving calls from a person who identified himself as David Miller who claimed he was a friend of Oswald, and that she had better not report him to the FBI. She stated she did not know him and he replied, “Oh, yes you do know me and you’d better not report.”
Mrs. Johnson stated she received intermittent calls from this same person until 12:30 AM on January 3rd and she took the phone off the hook to get some rest.
Mrs. Johnson stated the person calling sounded intelligent and did not appear to her to be drinking. She advised that she and her husband got up early and went to their café and when they returned home at about 8:00 AM on January 3, Mrs. Earlene Roberts who takes care of the rooming house at 1026 North Beckley for Mrs. Johnson, told her that she had received some five or six calls from a person identifying himself as David Miller. The FBI report was completed by Alfred Neeley.
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SA Albert Neeley also interviewed Earlene Roberts on the 4th of January, 1964. Roberts advised that she received a telephone call at that location at 6:15 AM, January 3rd from a man who stated he was David Miller. She said this person talked in a loud whisper asking her “How about meeting me in the alley, honey?” She stated he did not ask her who she was, but told her that he knew that she was Mrs. Roberts’ housekeeper. Mrs. Roberts stated she told him that she would not meet him in the alley and he replied, “You’ll be out there sometime today and I’ll get all three of you.” The person rang back about 6:35 AM asking, “Aren’t you going to meet me in the alley?” and when she said “No” he replied, “I’ll get you.” Roberts said had four or five calls by the same person and she also knew that the Humble Service Station operator [Jerry Duncan] across the street had also received calls.
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The reason all of this is a little bit strange is because of the content of the interview with John Laurel Ford on December 20th, 1963. Ford moved to Dallas from Houston during the first part of September 1963 and he secured a job at Jerry Duncan’s Service Station, 1030 North Zangs.
A photograph of Lee Harvey Oswald did not remind him of anyone he saw at Duncan’s Service Station or in the neighbourhood during his employment at Duncan’s. He said he did not have any contact with Oswald and had no knowledge of him other than what he read in the assassination aftermath.
The only person from the Oak Cliff neighbourhood who Ford drank beer with except Clyde Huff, a fellow employee, and Jerry Duncan, station owner, was a white male, 18 to 20 years old, 5’3” tall, 125-130 pounds, reddish blonde hair, light complexion, who wore cowboy boots and western style shirt. This young man, name not known, rented a room from Mrs. A. C. Johnson on Beckley Street, across the street from Duncan’s Service Station and he believed the person worked at an Auto Supply store on Jefferson Street. Mrs. A. C. Johnson was the former owner of Duncan’s Service Station. He believes the young man was from West Texas and he was not familiar with Dallas, Texas. Ford also claimed he did not like this man’s company so stopped drinking with him.
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The calls continued. On January 5th, 1964, Sergeant Drake, Irving, Texas, telephonically advised that he had just received an anonymous telephone call, believed to be female, who only stated, “David Leon Miller, that the FBI is looking for, can be located at 2314 Concord Street”, and then hung up abruptly.
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Marion Meharg must have now changed sex.
On January 13th, 1964, Mr. Z. B. Owen, Colorado Towers Café, formerly Clifton Hotel Coffee shop, 214 West Colorado Boulevard, was interviewed by Special Agent Arthur E. Carter at his request. Mr. Owen had been previously interviewed concerning an allegation that Lee Harvey Oswald had been seen drinking coffee at his café in the summer of 1963.
Mr. Owen advised that a Mr. (First Name Unknown) Johnson who formerly owned the Humble Oil Station at Zang’s Boulevard and Beckley Street in Dallas was in the café on the evening of January 9th, 1964, at which time Johnson asked Owen if the FBI had mentioned the name of Miller when they talked to Owen previously. When Owen replied to Johnson in the negative, Johnson seemed relieved and left.
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Johnson then went on to deny that he inquired whether the FBI had asked Mr. Owen about anyone called Miller. Johnson was re-interviewed on January 18, 1964, and said to SA’s Weir and Ward that he had been to a men’s meeting in his Church and afterwards went to the Clifton Hotel Coffee Shop. Johnson said he asked the owner if he knew of anyone by the name of Donald or David Miller who frequented the coffee shop or who resided in the area and the owner responded that he did not know anyone by that name. Mr. Johnson advised that he definitely did not ask the owner of the coffee shop if anyone had been in the coffee shop inquiring relative to a Donald or David Miller.
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Maybe the Agents should have warned Johnson that it was a federal offense to supply false information to a federal agent and asked him if he wanted counsel, the way they did with Marion Meharg?
Then on January 14th, Sergeant Lester Robertson, Texas Rangers, telephonically advised the FBI that on Saturday, January 11, 1964, an individual telephoned him and after talking briefly [about what is not explained], said he would have to call back. On his return on January 13, 1964, Robertson found a note concerning the call of the individual which in substance was as follows:
"John Valentine, 186 13th Street, Apartment 1, Atlanta, Georgia, who said he was passing through Dallas, claimed he overheard David Miller, 366 Lake Drive, Hamphill (?), Georgia, tell Miller’s wife he had married her only to keep her mouth shut regarding the attempt on Governor Connally’s life. The caller alleged that Miller was about 24 years of age driving a green and white 1956 station wagon, make unknown, and his brother in law was one Bob Walker of Irving, Texas. The note indicated that Miller had supposedly only recently moved to Georgia."
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The above call from “John Valentine” is a weird one because if it was Meharg, as the Dallas Police and the FBI said it was, then he now had the address that Mrs. Bernice Click gave the FBI as Mildred and David Miller’s residence in Georgia.
The FBI, after receiving this information from Lester Robertson, were still labeling Meharg as a suicide risk based upon hearsay information given them by Bernice Click in early December.
The FBI contacted Bernice Click again on January 17, 1964. Click again gave them the same Atlanta, Georgia, address she gave them a month before as the residence of her daughter and son-in-law.
She advised that her daughter had been home in early January to visit. There is no mention of Marion Meharg’s two sons.
She once again weighed into Meharg claiming he had been telephoning or writing at least once a week trying to get the exact address in Atlanta of Mildred Miller and the two children by their marriage (which is strange because if Meharg contacted Lester Robertson pretending to be John Valentine he already had the exact address in Atlanta).
Click said the calls continued on January 14, 1964, the day of the Valentine-Robertson phone call, and again on January 15, 1964.
Click goes on to claim that on either January 6, 1964, or January 7, 1964, a telephone call was received at the Eastern Star Lodge [Masonic] in Dallas for Mrs. Click. She was not in attendance and a Mrs. Mozelle Taylor took the call. The caller identified himself as a Secret Service Agent and he stated that the purpose of the call was to request that Mrs. Click stop bothering Marion Meharg.
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Mrs. Mozelle Taylor was interviewed on January 8, 1964. Taylor was Secretary of the Blue Bonnet Chapter, Order of the Eastern Star, attending a meeting of a sister chapter at the Dallas Masonic Temple.
When the call came through for Mrs. Bernice Click the caller was informed that Click was not there and they asked to speak to someone who was acquainted with her. Taylor took the call.
The caller did not identify himself to Taylor and said, “This is the Secret Service and we are trying to locate Mrs. Bernice Click. Do you have her telephone number?”
Taylor advised the caller she did not have Click’s telephone number with her and tried to locate it on the chapter roster but was unable to obtain it. Mrs Taylor asked the caller if she could return his call after she called home to get the number for him but he told her that he couldn’t leave his number as he was leaving for Fort Worth shortly. Taylor asked if they wanted to leave a message and the caller asked her to get a pencil and pad, which she did, and she took down the following message, “The Secret Service has screened the person in question. They have accused him of things he didn’t do, the other party looks bad.”
The caller told Taylor the “person in question” was Marion Meharg. Taylor passed on the message to Click the following day.
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The FBI then caught back up with Marion Meharg on January 18, 1964. Special Agent’s James Ward and James Weir did the interview. They opened up the interview with the warning that he did not have to make a statement and that any statement he did make could be used against him in a court of law; that he had a right to consult an attorney; that no threats or promises would be made to induce him to make a statement.
Meharg stated that since being interviewed previously he had not made any telephone calls to any law enforcement agency, or anyone else, intimating that David Leon Miller, the husband of is former wife, was acquainted with Lee Harvey Oswald or had any possible connection with the assassination of President Kennedy.
Meharg stated definitively and vehemently, that he did not telephone Mrs. A. C. Johnson, Mrs. Earlene Roberts or Jerry Duncan stating he was David, or Edward Miller. He said he did not call Mrs. A. C. Johnson inquiring of a David Miller. He further stated that he did not, or did not have anyone, telephone the Irving Police Department and tell them that David Miller, whom the FBI was looking for, could be located at 2314 Concord Street, Irving, Texas. He said he did not call the Texas Rangers, identify himself as John Valentine, 186-13th Street, Apartment 1, Atlanta, Georgia, and relate a conversation which was allegedly overheard between David Miller and Mildred Miller.
Meharg advised that his former wife’s brother in law, Robert N. Walker, resides in Irving, Texas, at 2314 Concord Drive.
Meharg advised that he had been on a “drunk” for the past eight days and is not clear as to his actions during this time, but is quite positive he did not make any of the aforementioned telephone calls.
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Then Earlene Roberts pops back up. SA’s Ward and Weir interviewed her on January 18, 1964. At approximately 12:30 PM, Saturday, January 4, 1964, she answered the telephone at 1026 North Beckley. The caller identified himself as Miller and asked if she were alone. She told him, “No, whereupon the caller hung up.
Later, at approximately 1:00 PM, she again answered the telephone and the caller asked her if she were alone at this time. Roberts said she was alone on the instructions of A. C. Johnson expecting that the caller might then appear at the house.
Mrs. Roberts stated that the caller said he would “get all three of you” and told her she had better not report the telephone calls to the FBI, Secret Service, police or anyone else.
Mrs. Roberts then sat in her car outside waiting to see if anyone was there who was not known to them, or did not reside at 1026 North Beckley, would show up but no one did.
They then changed their phone number and the calls stopped.
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In one of the reports detailing the investigation of Meharg, the FBI wrote:
During the initial stages of the investigation into the assassination of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy at Dallas, Texas on November 22, 1963, an anonymous call was received by the Dallas FBI Office on November 22, 1963, and subsequent investigation established that Marion Meharg, 2102 Village Way, Dallas, Texas, had made such call. Meharg admitted furnishing information which was false and a separate investigation into the furnishing of such false information was instituted under the caption “MARION MEHARG, also known as MARION B. MEHARG, FRAUD AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT”.
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I defy anyone to read the reports and find anywhere where Meharg admitted to furnishing false information. If anything the reports contain a FRAUD AGAINST MARION MEHARG when they purposely inserted information concerning the Margie Norman/Carousel Club connection.
In April, a “colored man” got into the act. Mr Robie Love, Justice of the Peace, Dallas County , Texas, telephonically advised SA Charles T. Brown, Jr., on April 23, 1964 the following:
Mr. Love said his wife received a call from an unidentified colored man, who advised MRs. Love he is the yardman for a woman residing at 2307 Finley Road, Irving, Texas. The unidentified colored man told Mrs. Love he desired to report some information to Mr. Love because he knew Mr. Love and he had been “scared to death” to say anything because he was afraid they might “kill him.”
The man told Mrs. Love he was working in the yard at 2307 Finley Road, on the day of the assassination and he overheard the woman who lives there on the telephone talking to her son-in-law that he had conspired with Lee Harvey Oswald to assassinate the President.
The woman supposedly had a great hatred for President Kennedy.
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The record culminates in the following;
On April 29, 1964, Lieutenant Joe Hubbard, Irving Police Department, Irving, Texas, telephonically advised that at 9:00 PM April 20, 1964, Officer Walter Lipscomb, Irving Police Department, received a telephone call from an unknown male telling the police to go 2307 Finley Road and they would find a man that was wanted. The caller then hung up.
Lieutenant Hubbard said that at 9:00 PM on April 25, 1964, Officer Lipscomb received another telephone call, believed to be from the same individual, who stated that he bet Georgia would like to know who was at 2307 Finley Road and that the caller hung up.
Lieutenant Hubbard advised that at 10:05 PM on April 26, 1964, Sergeant W. L. Drake, Irving Police Department, received a long distance telephone call from Captain A. L. Hutchins, Georgia Bureau of Investigation, Atlanta, Georgia. Captain Hutchins advised Sergeant Drake that GBI telephone operator had received a long distance telephone call from a person who stated that he would not tell his name because he did not want to get killed, but that there was a woman who lived at 2307 Finley Road, Irving, Texas, who had a son-in-law that knew who killed the three Georgia policemen. Captain Hutchins advised Sergeant Drake that the caller then hung up.
Lieutenant Hubbard stated that inquiry at 2307 Finley Road reveals this is the residence of Mrs. Bernice Click, who purchased the property from Lewis Max Ashburn recently. According to Lieutenant Hubbard, Marion B. Meharg is the former son-in-law of Mrs. Click, whose daughter and her present husband, Mr and Mrs. David Miller, reside at 125 Northern Avenue, Apartment Number 2, Atlanta, Georgia , telephone 377-4168.
Lietenant Hubbard advised that he is convinced that the telephone calls were made by Marion B. Meharg and that he has sent a teletype to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation advising them that he suspects such call they received was from Marion B. Meharg.
Previous investigation has been conducted concerning Marion B. Meharg and information attributed to him which is set forth on pages 49 to 56 of the report of Special Agent Robert P. Gemberling dated December 23, 1963, at Dallas, Texas and pages 99 through 118 of the report of Robert P. Gemberling dated January 22, 1964, at Dallas, Texas.
The facts developed in connection with the information allegedly furnished by Meharg were presented to Assistant U. S. Attorney B. H. Timmins, Jr., at Dallas, Texas, on February 14, 1964, at which time he advised that, after reviewing the results of the investigation, he was declining prosecution with respect to Meharg making false statements and impersonating a U. S. Secret Service agent because he did not believe the facts indicated an offense which could be proved in Federal Court. He further stated that the facts indicated that a domestic situation was responsible for the alleged actions of Meharg and that he did not believd the Federal Court should be used to solve such a domestic situation.
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So there you have it. Meharg was accused by the FBI of furnishing false information, accused of an array of nuisance phone calls, accused of threatening some of the people he was accused of calling, accused of impersonating a Secret Service agent, accused another man of being involved in the assassination of the President, and had a file started under the caption “MARION MEHARG, FRAUD AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT”...
...and yet even though the FBI were claiming Meharg had committed "Fraud Against the Government" the Dallas Assistant DA wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole. This was a domestic according to him.
Either Marion Merhag hit the coincidence jackpot on the evening of the 22nd of November 1963 by ringing Alveeta Treon and by making up out of thin air and then relaying to the Dallas Police that he had seen a man jump off the loading dock at the rear of the TSBD and leave in a green and white Chevrolet station wagon just to give him a chance to see his kids or he saw what he saw, thought it was his ex-wife’s Station Wagon and suffered the same consequences as Roger Craig and Richard Randolph Carr. Carr was also threatened (through the orders of J. Edgar Hoover himself no less) with prosecution should he be supplying false information to federal officers. The similarity being that Carr also claimed to see a man leave at the rear of the TSBD and get into a Station Wagon on Houston Street. Both sightings put down to vivid imaginations, pranks, and resulted in both men being called liars and partaking in deception.
The most peculiar thing in this whole Miller-Click-Meharg affair is the complete absence of any interview of David Leon Miller or his wife Mildred Miller. Not even any hint at the FBI even contemplating interviewing them - either in Dallas or in Atlanta. The FBI and the DPD seemed completely disinterested in this couple.
My personal view is that Meharg did see what he claims he saw at the rear of the TSBD and either honestly or falsely connected it to his ex-wife and then instead of concentrating on what he saw at the loading dock and green and White 1956 Chevy station wagon the FBI instead concentrated on the ex-wife domestic situation and went after Meharg.
Marion Meharg died on Dec. 17, 1968 at the age of 56 and is buried at Laurel Land Memorial Park in Dallas, Texas.
To be continued.
In 2011 I started a thread on the Education Forum that focused on a long neglected assassination story. The thread received little attention which truly surprised me because I believed the story had some areas that could have shone some light on the wider assassination story. When I first stumbled upon it the language contained in the FBI documents had familiar hallmarks that I had seen in other documents related to other witnesses when what the witness was saying was not what the FBI wanted to hear. The witness who was at the centre of the story, a man named Marion Meharg, very quickly became the victim of counter allegations from a variety of different people and, in my opinion, had his initial observations that he relayed to the police on the evening of 11/22/63 buried under an avalanche of criticism and possible harassment. I always felt there was more to this story and I have believed in Marion Meharg the way I have always believed in Lee Harvey Oswald.
The story is quite a long one and I ask that members here just digest what I am about to present because there is a small new development in the story that I want to share with everybody that could shed new light on why Marion Meharg became a target for authorities after the assassination rather than a witness. I promise that if you haven't read this story before, and you keep an open mind, you will find it thought provoking and very interesting. It starts with an observation made by Marion Meharg minutes after the assassination of President Kennedy which places him in Dealey Plaza at 12:30pm that afternoon and it soon develops into a story that brings into the fold some of the key assassination witnesses who we can prove are abject liars but who were favoured over a man who was portrayed as a serial nuisance caller who suffered from mental problems.
The links in the following do not work but I will ensure I replace them as soon as I get a chance. Enjoy, and I hope you can help me develop this story further when I post what the new development is concerning the sad story of Marion Meharg:
The Case of the Nuisance Phone Calls
"That station wagon belongs to Mrs. Ruth Paine. Don't try to tie her into this.” – Lee Harvey Oswald, November 22nd, 1963
On December 2nd, 1963, FBI Special Agent Alfred C. Ellington received a phone call. The caller, who allegedly didn’t give his name, claimed that on the afternoon of November 22nd, 1963, within minutes of the assassination of the President, he “…observed a man come out of the Texas School Book Depository building, jump off the loading dock…run across Houston Street and get into a 1956 green and white Chevrolet station wagon [and] that he further observed the license number on this vehicle and believes the first four digits were PW 17.”
The caller’s name was Marion Meharg and the call would become a long forgotten but incredibly strange by-story to the events of November 22nd, 1963.
Marion B. Meharg was born in Terrell, Texas, on the 7th of April 1912 and was divorced from a woman named Mildred. The 51 year old had two children with her, both boys, as well as two step-daughters and the separation by all accounts was a messy one. Marion Meharg wanted custody of his boys and in November 1963 was calling his ex-mother-in-law to try and establish where his children were. Mildred Meharg had remarried in September, 1963, to a man named David Leon Miller.
Mildred’s mother when interviewed by the FBI painted a very unfavourable picture of Meharg. The mother of Mildred Meharg was called Mrs. B. K. (Bernice) Click. A surname that will strongly resonate with seasoned JFK researchers and is a curiosity that I personally find quite intriguing. Click told authorities that Meharg had threatened her daughter and had threatened to kill himself. The FBI immediately took Mrs. Click at her word and put Meharg down as a suicide risk with no further investigation into these threats needed.
When reading the FBI Special Agent interviews relating to Marion Meharg we are left with the impression that the first time Meharg contacted any investigation body regarding what he saw at the rear of the TSBD was in early December, 1963. However, Meharg’s telephone call to SA Ellington that detailed a man leaving the rear of the TSBD and getting into a 1956 Chevrolet Station Wagon was not the first time he made contact with the authorities. Marion Meharg first called the Dallas Police Department several times on the night of the assassination to tell them the same story; albeit anonymously.
Alveeta Treon (of the John Hurt note story) was interviewed by Harold Rose of the HSCA in 1978 and she told Rose the following:
“Alveeta Treon, who worked as a telephone operator at Dallas City Hall on Nov. 22, 1963, had told me [HSCA investigator Harold Rose] on a prior occasion that on the night of the assassination, a man called the Dallas Police Department several times and wanted to report that there was a second assassin but she said that the P.D. dismissed it as a prank call. Mrs. Treon told me that she copied the information down and would try to locate it and call me. On this date [5/15/78], she called and stated that the man that called never gave his name, but he gave the name of the man that he said was the second assassin. The man’s name was David Miller and that he fired the second shot. He carried the rifle with him when he exited out of the rear of the TSBD. David Miller then left in a car bearing Texas license plates T W 1784. This car was reportedly listed to David Miller’s wife Mildred. Mrs. Treon stated that the original notes she took are in her hand writing and we have them if we wanted.”
The story of Marion Meharg developed over a five month period with a series of ever bizarre phone calls to a whole host of different people.
Let us delve into how the story evolved.
Meharg allegedly called the Dallas Police on the evening of the assassination to tell them that he saw a man leave the rear of the Texas School Book Depository building. He named the man as David Miller and that he fired the second shot. Miller left with the weapon in a car bearing Texas license plate TW 1784. Meharg, we are told, did not leave his name.
We all know that Roger Craig had been talking to members of the Dallas Police Department on the evening of the assassination about his sighting of a man fitting Oswald’s description leaving the TSBD in a light colored Nash Rambler Station Wagon, yet Alveeta Treon who took the call from the anonymous tipster said that the DPD put the anonymous call down as a prank.
On December 2nd Marion Meharg allegedly called SA Albert Ellington of the Dallas FBI and told him that he saw a man leave the TSBD after jumping down from the loading dock and leave in a 1956 green and white Chevrolet Station Wagon on Houston Street. The first four digits of the license plate numbers being PW 17. Once again, Meharg did not leave his name.
On December 5th, 1963, the FBI went and interviewed a Miss Linda Freeman at 6205 Silvery Moon Drive. Freeman was the step-daughter of Kenneth Dowdy who lived at the Silvery Moon address. Dowdy was a friend of David Leon Miller who had married Marion Meharg’s ex-wife Mildred. Freeman advised the FBI that David Miller had resided with them at the address for about one week several months ago. She further advised that both David and Marion Miller had since departed and were believed to be travelling out of the State of Texas. Freeman stated she had not seen Mildred or David in at least a month. This is quite strange interview because the calls, up to this point in time, had not been followed up and we are told the caller was anonymous.
On December 11th, 1963, Charles T. Brown of the Dallas FBI Office received a phone call from Marion Meharg. This time Meharg left his name and address. He inquired as to whether Agents of the FBI Office had located a green and white Chevrolet station wagon which he had previously called to the attention of this office. This I find peculiar because the previous reports of the phone calls leave the reader with the distinct impression that Meharg was reluctant to be identified. According to SA Charles Brown he was familiar with the name Marion Meharg as having made several previous calls to the office reporting on the activities of a woman driving a green and white Chevrolet station wagon. SA Brown was also cognizant of information obtained from a Mrs. Click, mother in law of Meharg, in which Mrs. Click advised Bureau agents that Meharg had for several months attempted to cause trouble for his former wife by reporting her to the Dallas Police Department on unfounded complaints. Brown finishes by advising Meharg that the Dallas Office had no information for release concerning the information discussed by Meharg.
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On December 12th, 1963, Jane Jenkins was interviewed by SA Maurice J. White. Jenkins was the fourteen year old daughter of Meharg’s ex-wife Mildred and she lived with her grandmother Bernice Click in Dallas. Miss Jenkins stated that she was visiting her mother in Atlanta, Georgia, where Mildred now lived, and returned to Dallas on Sunday, November 17, 1963. Jenkins also advised that her mother still owned a 1956 Chevrolet station wagon, and still maintained Texas plates on the car. Jenkins said as far as she knew the automobile is still in Georgia and was in Georgia on November 22, 1963.
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On the same day that Miss Jenkins was interviewed, December 12th, 1963, Bernice Click was contacted by the FBI for the first time. SA Maurice White did the interview. Once again this is a little bit strange seeing as how SA Brown knew about Mrs. Click on December 11th when Meharg called him and Brown’s claim that Click had contacted the FBI prior to the December 12th date. There is no report in the record that documents any phone calls or any sort of contact from Bernice Click. In Click’s interview on December 12, she stated that she is the mother of Mildred Miller who was formerly married to Marion Meharg. She advised that her daughter remarried approximately two months ago to a David Miller and moved to Atlanta, Georgia. They presently reside at 186—13th Street, N.E., Apartment 2, Atlanta. Click stated that Mildred’s daughters, Jane and Judy Jenkins were in Atlanta, visiting their mother on November 17, 1963 and were now staying with her at her own address of 905 Barnett in Dallas. The interviewing agent did not ask Mrs. Click why Mildred’s daughters were not living with their mother. Click stated that she had been contacted by Marion Meharg on several occasions where he is attempting to locate the address of his former wife and he is attempting to regain custody of his two boys. She further stated that Meharg had in the past threatened Mildred with a knife and threatened to commit suicide. She did not know where he is presently employed and does not hold a job more than one week. She told SA White that her daughter still owned the 1956 Chevrolet station wagon. Nowhere in this interview does Click state that Meharg has been making “unfounded complaints to the Dallas Police Department” as is written in SA Brown’s report from the day before on December 11th. Click simply states Meharg was trying to locate his ex-wife because he wanted his two boys back.
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On December 14th, 1963, the FBI finally caught up with Marion Meharg. He was interviewed by FBI Special Agent’s John Murrer and Maurice White. Meharg advised the agents that he resided at 2102 Village Way, Dallas, Texas with his sister Mrs. Loretta Avery. He was interviewed at his place of work, the Cooperative Delivery Service where he was employed as a mechanic. Murrer and White asked him if he was the same man who furnished information to SA Alfred Ellington on December 2nd concerning certain events taking place on the day of President Kennedy’s assassination in the vicinity of the TSBD and Meharg told them that he had spoken to Ellington and given him certain information.
Now, here's the strange bit. Instead of asking Meharg for all that he knew concerning the events that he claimed he saw regarding the assassination of the President of the United States, the two Special Agents instead advised Marion Meharg that to knowingly furnish false information to federal officers was a violation of federal law. He was advised that he did not have to make a statement or answer any questions, and that any statement made by him or questions answered could be used against him in a court of law. This was exactly the same tactic used by the FBI with Richard Randolph Carr on the expressed order of J. Edgar Hoover no less. So, Meharg was advised of his right to seek legal counsel before answering any questions. He was advised again that if he now furnished information which is false and which he knew to be false, he could be prosecuted.
Meharg was then asked by the FBI Special Agents if he advised Alfred C. Ellington on December 2, 1963 as follows:
"That within a matter of minutes after President Kennedy was shot, he observed a man come out of the Texas School Book Depository loading dock at the rear of the building, run across Houston Street and get into a 1956 green and white Chevrolet station wagon; that he further observed the license number on this vehicle and believes the first four digits were PW 17. He was further asked that did his former wife not own a 1956 green and white Chevrolet station wagon with a 1963 Texas license PW 1784."
Meharg stated that he did furnish SA Ellington this information and advised that he was worried about his two boys who are in the custody of his former wife, Mildred, and id afraid she might have gotten mixed up in this affair. He stated he is sure he observed a 1956 green and white Chevrolet station wagon on Houston Street with Texas license starting with PW or PB or PF or something, and was afraid it was hers.
Meharg was asked if he made anonymous phone calls to the Dallas Office of the FBI stating that license number PW 1784 was a lead in this case and Meharg replied that he did make an anonymous call and also called the Texas Highway Patrol. Meharg said he did this because he was worried about his two sons and was afraid his wife was mixed up in some way. Meharg said he didn’t want to furnish false information and repeated he was worried about his boys. He said he didn’t know where his former wife was and wanted to find her and her two boys. The SA’s reminded him again of federal law and furnishing false information could result in his being prosecuted.
The funny thing about this is Meharg was adamant and even with FBI threats of prosecution he reiterated he was positive he saw someone jump off the loading platform of the TSBD and get into a 1956 Chevrolet station wagon which was occupied by at least one other man and drive away. The license was similar to that of his former wife and she owned a similar described car. In any event Meharg was claiming to be an assassination witness but the FBI were more concerned with discrediting him rather than exploring whether he was actually there in Dealey Plaza.
Meharg was asked if he called the FBI and said that a woman with a green and white Chevrolet station wagon, Texas license PW 1984 and who has “hung out” at the Carousel Club, was seen picking up Oswald in Irving. He did not answer this question and continued to state that he is worried about his boys.
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There is no mention in the record prior to the Meharg FBI interview on December 14th of an anonymous call suggesting that a woman driving a 1956 green and white Chevrolet station wagon who hung out at the Carousel Club was seen picking up Oswald. It is this that set off alarm bells for me and with good reason.
On November 25th, 1963, a man (who refused to identify himself) called the Fort Worth, Texas, Resident Agency Office, stating that about the date of the Texas-Oklahoma game in Dallas, Texas, (October 12, 1963) he saw a male in a car with “Margie” (Last Name Unknown), a waitress at the Carousel Club. He stated “Margie” at that time was driving a 1956 Chevrolet 4-door, white and red in color. This male caller stated that after viewing a photograph of Lee Harvey Oswald in the paper, he was of the opinion the person in the car with Margie was Oswald. This individual said he had no other information concerning this matter. Margie had been identified as Margie Norman.
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Margie Norman was identified and interviewed on November 29th, 1963, more than two weeks before Marion Meharg was asked about this on December 14th. So it is no wonder that Meharg “did not answer” this question when allegedly asked by Special Agent’s Murrer and White. We will come back to this in a later post because this event is directly linked to Larry Crafard which I would like everybody to bear in mind.
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Curiously two days after the Meharg interview, on December 16th, 1963, the FBI reported the following:
“Assistant District Attorney BILL ALEXANDER, Dallas County, furnished the Dallas FBI Office with a memorandum as follows:
Mr. Wade,
We had an anonymous phone call who gave the following information on the JACK RUBY case.
“This woman drives a car, PW1784, and they all left town after this killing. The woman’s name is Mildred. Another woman named Click who lives on South Barnett knows where this woman is. David Miller is a man who runs with Click. They are connected with Lee Oswald and also Jack Ruby.”
He said not to turn this over to the FBI but to get the woman and he thinks she will squeal."
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On December 27th, 1963, FBI SA Alfred D. Neeley went and interviewed Mrs. Bernice Click again. Mrs. Click advised that Marion Meharg telephoned her on or about December 15, 1963 [the day after he was interviewed by the FBI] saying he was sending Judy Jenkins, age 16, and Janie Jenkins, age 14, Meharg’s step-daughters, Christmas gifts.
Mrs. Click stated she received three calls from Meharg and in the first two calls Meharg inquired whether the gifts had been received and she advised him they hadn’t. Click said the third call from Meharg stated he had put a “tracer“ on the packages and the Post Office Department had advised him that the FBI picked up the packages for inspection. Mrs. Click stated she was aware of the investigation being made of Meharg by the FBI but did nothing in regard to these statements at that time.
She advised that she received a long distance telephone call from her daughter, Mrs. David (Mildred) Miller, 186 13th Street N.E., Atlanta, Georgia on December 25th wanting to know if they had received her gifts to Judy and Janie Jenkins which she had sent via airmail December 22, 1963, and an airmail letter to her, Mrs. Click, containing a money order which was her Christmas gift, also mailed December 22.
Mrs. Click stated she had not received either the gifts or the letter and, therefore [for some reason], she wanted to advise the FBI of this information.
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Now things take an unusual turn.
At 10:40 PM on January 2nd, 1964, Mr, Jerry Duncan, Duncan’s Humble Service Station, 1030 North Zang’s Boulevard, Dallas, Texas, telephonically contacted the Dallas FBI Office and advised Night Clerk Forrest L. Lucy that his station is across the street from where Lee Harvey Oswald lived in Oak Cliff section of Dallas (1026 North Beckley).
Duncan advised that he had received a telephone call at his service station on that evening from a person who identified himself as EDWARD Miller who stated that he (Miller) had assisted Oswald in escaping from the scene of the assassination of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy on November 22, 1963.
Duncan said the caller asked him if the FBI had been talking to him and he said they had but not recently. The person said “I don’t want you telling the FBI I had anything to do with Oswald.”
Duncan stated he told this person he did not know him and the caller replied, “Yes, you do and you’d better not tell anyone you know me.” Duncan said the called sounded like and old man who was drunk.
The next day, January 3rd, Duncan said the same person called him again and inquired as to whom he had been talking. Duncan refused to answer and the person said “Well, you’d better not tell anyone anything about me.” Duncan advised he asked the caller to identify himself but he refused and on this call he appeared sober.
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Then the phone rang at 1026 North Beckley. Mrs. A. C. Johnson, who identified herself as Lee Harvey Oswald’s landlady to the interviewing FBI agents, telephonically advised that one day last week [prior to the Duncan call] she received a telephone call from an unidentified man wanting to know if David Miller lived at that address. She told this person that Miller did not live there. The caller said Miller drove an old white station wagon and that he understood that Miller had lived there. Mrs. Johnson stated she thought that this was a bill collector trying to locate David Miller, and she paid no attention to the call.
Johnson stated that at about 10:30 PM on January 2nd, 1964, she started receiving calls from a person who identified himself as David Miller who claimed he was a friend of Oswald, and that she had better not report him to the FBI. She stated she did not know him and he replied, “Oh, yes you do know me and you’d better not report.”
Mrs. Johnson stated she received intermittent calls from this same person until 12:30 AM on January 3rd and she took the phone off the hook to get some rest.
Mrs. Johnson stated the person calling sounded intelligent and did not appear to her to be drinking. She advised that she and her husband got up early and went to their café and when they returned home at about 8:00 AM on January 3, Mrs. Earlene Roberts who takes care of the rooming house at 1026 North Beckley for Mrs. Johnson, told her that she had received some five or six calls from a person identifying himself as David Miller. The FBI report was completed by Alfred Neeley.
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SA Albert Neeley also interviewed Earlene Roberts on the 4th of January, 1964. Roberts advised that she received a telephone call at that location at 6:15 AM, January 3rd from a man who stated he was David Miller. She said this person talked in a loud whisper asking her “How about meeting me in the alley, honey?” She stated he did not ask her who she was, but told her that he knew that she was Mrs. Roberts’ housekeeper. Mrs. Roberts stated she told him that she would not meet him in the alley and he replied, “You’ll be out there sometime today and I’ll get all three of you.” The person rang back about 6:35 AM asking, “Aren’t you going to meet me in the alley?” and when she said “No” he replied, “I’ll get you.” Roberts said had four or five calls by the same person and she also knew that the Humble Service Station operator [Jerry Duncan] across the street had also received calls.
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The reason all of this is a little bit strange is because of the content of the interview with John Laurel Ford on December 20th, 1963. Ford moved to Dallas from Houston during the first part of September 1963 and he secured a job at Jerry Duncan’s Service Station, 1030 North Zangs.
A photograph of Lee Harvey Oswald did not remind him of anyone he saw at Duncan’s Service Station or in the neighbourhood during his employment at Duncan’s. He said he did not have any contact with Oswald and had no knowledge of him other than what he read in the assassination aftermath.
The only person from the Oak Cliff neighbourhood who Ford drank beer with except Clyde Huff, a fellow employee, and Jerry Duncan, station owner, was a white male, 18 to 20 years old, 5’3” tall, 125-130 pounds, reddish blonde hair, light complexion, who wore cowboy boots and western style shirt. This young man, name not known, rented a room from Mrs. A. C. Johnson on Beckley Street, across the street from Duncan’s Service Station and he believed the person worked at an Auto Supply store on Jefferson Street. Mrs. A. C. Johnson was the former owner of Duncan’s Service Station. He believes the young man was from West Texas and he was not familiar with Dallas, Texas. Ford also claimed he did not like this man’s company so stopped drinking with him.
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The calls continued. On January 5th, 1964, Sergeant Drake, Irving, Texas, telephonically advised that he had just received an anonymous telephone call, believed to be female, who only stated, “David Leon Miller, that the FBI is looking for, can be located at 2314 Concord Street”, and then hung up abruptly.
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Marion Meharg must have now changed sex.
On January 13th, 1964, Mr. Z. B. Owen, Colorado Towers Café, formerly Clifton Hotel Coffee shop, 214 West Colorado Boulevard, was interviewed by Special Agent Arthur E. Carter at his request. Mr. Owen had been previously interviewed concerning an allegation that Lee Harvey Oswald had been seen drinking coffee at his café in the summer of 1963.
Mr. Owen advised that a Mr. (First Name Unknown) Johnson who formerly owned the Humble Oil Station at Zang’s Boulevard and Beckley Street in Dallas was in the café on the evening of January 9th, 1964, at which time Johnson asked Owen if the FBI had mentioned the name of Miller when they talked to Owen previously. When Owen replied to Johnson in the negative, Johnson seemed relieved and left.
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Johnson then went on to deny that he inquired whether the FBI had asked Mr. Owen about anyone called Miller. Johnson was re-interviewed on January 18, 1964, and said to SA’s Weir and Ward that he had been to a men’s meeting in his Church and afterwards went to the Clifton Hotel Coffee Shop. Johnson said he asked the owner if he knew of anyone by the name of Donald or David Miller who frequented the coffee shop or who resided in the area and the owner responded that he did not know anyone by that name. Mr. Johnson advised that he definitely did not ask the owner of the coffee shop if anyone had been in the coffee shop inquiring relative to a Donald or David Miller.
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Maybe the Agents should have warned Johnson that it was a federal offense to supply false information to a federal agent and asked him if he wanted counsel, the way they did with Marion Meharg?
Then on January 14th, Sergeant Lester Robertson, Texas Rangers, telephonically advised the FBI that on Saturday, January 11, 1964, an individual telephoned him and after talking briefly [about what is not explained], said he would have to call back. On his return on January 13, 1964, Robertson found a note concerning the call of the individual which in substance was as follows:
"John Valentine, 186 13th Street, Apartment 1, Atlanta, Georgia, who said he was passing through Dallas, claimed he overheard David Miller, 366 Lake Drive, Hamphill (?), Georgia, tell Miller’s wife he had married her only to keep her mouth shut regarding the attempt on Governor Connally’s life. The caller alleged that Miller was about 24 years of age driving a green and white 1956 station wagon, make unknown, and his brother in law was one Bob Walker of Irving, Texas. The note indicated that Miller had supposedly only recently moved to Georgia."
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The above call from “John Valentine” is a weird one because if it was Meharg, as the Dallas Police and the FBI said it was, then he now had the address that Mrs. Bernice Click gave the FBI as Mildred and David Miller’s residence in Georgia.
The FBI, after receiving this information from Lester Robertson, were still labeling Meharg as a suicide risk based upon hearsay information given them by Bernice Click in early December.
The FBI contacted Bernice Click again on January 17, 1964. Click again gave them the same Atlanta, Georgia, address she gave them a month before as the residence of her daughter and son-in-law.
She advised that her daughter had been home in early January to visit. There is no mention of Marion Meharg’s two sons.
She once again weighed into Meharg claiming he had been telephoning or writing at least once a week trying to get the exact address in Atlanta of Mildred Miller and the two children by their marriage (which is strange because if Meharg contacted Lester Robertson pretending to be John Valentine he already had the exact address in Atlanta).
Click said the calls continued on January 14, 1964, the day of the Valentine-Robertson phone call, and again on January 15, 1964.
Click goes on to claim that on either January 6, 1964, or January 7, 1964, a telephone call was received at the Eastern Star Lodge [Masonic] in Dallas for Mrs. Click. She was not in attendance and a Mrs. Mozelle Taylor took the call. The caller identified himself as a Secret Service Agent and he stated that the purpose of the call was to request that Mrs. Click stop bothering Marion Meharg.
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Mrs. Mozelle Taylor was interviewed on January 8, 1964. Taylor was Secretary of the Blue Bonnet Chapter, Order of the Eastern Star, attending a meeting of a sister chapter at the Dallas Masonic Temple.
When the call came through for Mrs. Bernice Click the caller was informed that Click was not there and they asked to speak to someone who was acquainted with her. Taylor took the call.
The caller did not identify himself to Taylor and said, “This is the Secret Service and we are trying to locate Mrs. Bernice Click. Do you have her telephone number?”
Taylor advised the caller she did not have Click’s telephone number with her and tried to locate it on the chapter roster but was unable to obtain it. Mrs Taylor asked the caller if she could return his call after she called home to get the number for him but he told her that he couldn’t leave his number as he was leaving for Fort Worth shortly. Taylor asked if they wanted to leave a message and the caller asked her to get a pencil and pad, which she did, and she took down the following message, “The Secret Service has screened the person in question. They have accused him of things he didn’t do, the other party looks bad.”
The caller told Taylor the “person in question” was Marion Meharg. Taylor passed on the message to Click the following day.
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The FBI then caught back up with Marion Meharg on January 18, 1964. Special Agent’s James Ward and James Weir did the interview. They opened up the interview with the warning that he did not have to make a statement and that any statement he did make could be used against him in a court of law; that he had a right to consult an attorney; that no threats or promises would be made to induce him to make a statement.
Meharg stated that since being interviewed previously he had not made any telephone calls to any law enforcement agency, or anyone else, intimating that David Leon Miller, the husband of is former wife, was acquainted with Lee Harvey Oswald or had any possible connection with the assassination of President Kennedy.
Meharg stated definitively and vehemently, that he did not telephone Mrs. A. C. Johnson, Mrs. Earlene Roberts or Jerry Duncan stating he was David, or Edward Miller. He said he did not call Mrs. A. C. Johnson inquiring of a David Miller. He further stated that he did not, or did not have anyone, telephone the Irving Police Department and tell them that David Miller, whom the FBI was looking for, could be located at 2314 Concord Street, Irving, Texas. He said he did not call the Texas Rangers, identify himself as John Valentine, 186-13th Street, Apartment 1, Atlanta, Georgia, and relate a conversation which was allegedly overheard between David Miller and Mildred Miller.
Meharg advised that his former wife’s brother in law, Robert N. Walker, resides in Irving, Texas, at 2314 Concord Drive.
Meharg advised that he had been on a “drunk” for the past eight days and is not clear as to his actions during this time, but is quite positive he did not make any of the aforementioned telephone calls.
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Then Earlene Roberts pops back up. SA’s Ward and Weir interviewed her on January 18, 1964. At approximately 12:30 PM, Saturday, January 4, 1964, she answered the telephone at 1026 North Beckley. The caller identified himself as Miller and asked if she were alone. She told him, “No, whereupon the caller hung up.
Later, at approximately 1:00 PM, she again answered the telephone and the caller asked her if she were alone at this time. Roberts said she was alone on the instructions of A. C. Johnson expecting that the caller might then appear at the house.
Mrs. Roberts stated that the caller said he would “get all three of you” and told her she had better not report the telephone calls to the FBI, Secret Service, police or anyone else.
Mrs. Roberts then sat in her car outside waiting to see if anyone was there who was not known to them, or did not reside at 1026 North Beckley, would show up but no one did.
They then changed their phone number and the calls stopped.
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In one of the reports detailing the investigation of Meharg, the FBI wrote:
During the initial stages of the investigation into the assassination of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy at Dallas, Texas on November 22, 1963, an anonymous call was received by the Dallas FBI Office on November 22, 1963, and subsequent investigation established that Marion Meharg, 2102 Village Way, Dallas, Texas, had made such call. Meharg admitted furnishing information which was false and a separate investigation into the furnishing of such false information was instituted under the caption “MARION MEHARG, also known as MARION B. MEHARG, FRAUD AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT”.
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I defy anyone to read the reports and find anywhere where Meharg admitted to furnishing false information. If anything the reports contain a FRAUD AGAINST MARION MEHARG when they purposely inserted information concerning the Margie Norman/Carousel Club connection.
In April, a “colored man” got into the act. Mr Robie Love, Justice of the Peace, Dallas County , Texas, telephonically advised SA Charles T. Brown, Jr., on April 23, 1964 the following:
Mr. Love said his wife received a call from an unidentified colored man, who advised MRs. Love he is the yardman for a woman residing at 2307 Finley Road, Irving, Texas. The unidentified colored man told Mrs. Love he desired to report some information to Mr. Love because he knew Mr. Love and he had been “scared to death” to say anything because he was afraid they might “kill him.”
The man told Mrs. Love he was working in the yard at 2307 Finley Road, on the day of the assassination and he overheard the woman who lives there on the telephone talking to her son-in-law that he had conspired with Lee Harvey Oswald to assassinate the President.
The woman supposedly had a great hatred for President Kennedy.
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The record culminates in the following;
On April 29, 1964, Lieutenant Joe Hubbard, Irving Police Department, Irving, Texas, telephonically advised that at 9:00 PM April 20, 1964, Officer Walter Lipscomb, Irving Police Department, received a telephone call from an unknown male telling the police to go 2307 Finley Road and they would find a man that was wanted. The caller then hung up.
Lieutenant Hubbard said that at 9:00 PM on April 25, 1964, Officer Lipscomb received another telephone call, believed to be from the same individual, who stated that he bet Georgia would like to know who was at 2307 Finley Road and that the caller hung up.
Lieutenant Hubbard advised that at 10:05 PM on April 26, 1964, Sergeant W. L. Drake, Irving Police Department, received a long distance telephone call from Captain A. L. Hutchins, Georgia Bureau of Investigation, Atlanta, Georgia. Captain Hutchins advised Sergeant Drake that GBI telephone operator had received a long distance telephone call from a person who stated that he would not tell his name because he did not want to get killed, but that there was a woman who lived at 2307 Finley Road, Irving, Texas, who had a son-in-law that knew who killed the three Georgia policemen. Captain Hutchins advised Sergeant Drake that the caller then hung up.
Lieutenant Hubbard stated that inquiry at 2307 Finley Road reveals this is the residence of Mrs. Bernice Click, who purchased the property from Lewis Max Ashburn recently. According to Lieutenant Hubbard, Marion B. Meharg is the former son-in-law of Mrs. Click, whose daughter and her present husband, Mr and Mrs. David Miller, reside at 125 Northern Avenue, Apartment Number 2, Atlanta, Georgia , telephone 377-4168.
Lietenant Hubbard advised that he is convinced that the telephone calls were made by Marion B. Meharg and that he has sent a teletype to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation advising them that he suspects such call they received was from Marion B. Meharg.
Previous investigation has been conducted concerning Marion B. Meharg and information attributed to him which is set forth on pages 49 to 56 of the report of Special Agent Robert P. Gemberling dated December 23, 1963, at Dallas, Texas and pages 99 through 118 of the report of Robert P. Gemberling dated January 22, 1964, at Dallas, Texas.
The facts developed in connection with the information allegedly furnished by Meharg were presented to Assistant U. S. Attorney B. H. Timmins, Jr., at Dallas, Texas, on February 14, 1964, at which time he advised that, after reviewing the results of the investigation, he was declining prosecution with respect to Meharg making false statements and impersonating a U. S. Secret Service agent because he did not believe the facts indicated an offense which could be proved in Federal Court. He further stated that the facts indicated that a domestic situation was responsible for the alleged actions of Meharg and that he did not believd the Federal Court should be used to solve such a domestic situation.
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So there you have it. Meharg was accused by the FBI of furnishing false information, accused of an array of nuisance phone calls, accused of threatening some of the people he was accused of calling, accused of impersonating a Secret Service agent, accused another man of being involved in the assassination of the President, and had a file started under the caption “MARION MEHARG, FRAUD AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT”...
...and yet even though the FBI were claiming Meharg had committed "Fraud Against the Government" the Dallas Assistant DA wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole. This was a domestic according to him.
Either Marion Merhag hit the coincidence jackpot on the evening of the 22nd of November 1963 by ringing Alveeta Treon and by making up out of thin air and then relaying to the Dallas Police that he had seen a man jump off the loading dock at the rear of the TSBD and leave in a green and white Chevrolet station wagon just to give him a chance to see his kids or he saw what he saw, thought it was his ex-wife’s Station Wagon and suffered the same consequences as Roger Craig and Richard Randolph Carr. Carr was also threatened (through the orders of J. Edgar Hoover himself no less) with prosecution should he be supplying false information to federal officers. The similarity being that Carr also claimed to see a man leave at the rear of the TSBD and get into a Station Wagon on Houston Street. Both sightings put down to vivid imaginations, pranks, and resulted in both men being called liars and partaking in deception.
The most peculiar thing in this whole Miller-Click-Meharg affair is the complete absence of any interview of David Leon Miller or his wife Mildred Miller. Not even any hint at the FBI even contemplating interviewing them - either in Dallas or in Atlanta. The FBI and the DPD seemed completely disinterested in this couple.
My personal view is that Meharg did see what he claims he saw at the rear of the TSBD and either honestly or falsely connected it to his ex-wife and then instead of concentrating on what he saw at the loading dock and green and White 1956 Chevy station wagon the FBI instead concentrated on the ex-wife domestic situation and went after Meharg.
Marion Meharg died on Dec. 17, 1968 at the age of 56 and is buried at Laurel Land Memorial Park in Dallas, Texas.
To be continued.
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Say Ed Ledoux--I neglected to thank you for the city directory information on David L. Miller, thank you. I wonder if you are able to find something else relevant here. In an FBI report of 1/5/64 an Irving Police Department sergeant reports that an anonymous caller stated that "David Leon Miller, that the FBI is looking for, can be located at 2314 Concord Street". I see that 2314 Concord Street is located in Irving. Are you able to find what an Irving city directory says for who lived at that address in 1963? Very grateful if you can. (I may be on to something.) Thanks--
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Greg,
Thanks for the reply. Wish I could be of more help.
Irving directories are rare animals.
Libraries are spotty but others had luck in hunts.
There is this from Wiesberg;
[ BL 3-8100 Irving, Tex. Robert N. Walker, 2314 Concord Dr. CD329 p.118 ]
Interestingly you make a similar mistake as to Millers whereabouts as 2314 Concord Street
Meharg himself says Drive as he knows where his exbrother in law lives but a caller may not.
Nothing much but its worth pointing out.
Thanks for the reply. Wish I could be of more help.
Irving directories are rare animals.
Libraries are spotty but others had luck in hunts.
There is this from Wiesberg;
[ BL 3-8100 Irving, Tex. Robert N. Walker, 2314 Concord Dr. CD329 p.118 ]
Interestingly you make a similar mistake as to Millers whereabouts as 2314 Concord Street
Meharg himself says Drive as he knows where his exbrother in law lives but a caller may not.
Nothing much but its worth pointing out.
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This is great Ed LeDoux, thanks. (I had not noticed the Drive versus Street, you're right.) Are you possibly able to find city directory information on one more address in 1963-1964? 186 13th Street, Apartment 1, Atlanta, Georgia. That is an address given by a caller who identified himself as John Valentine, who phoned the Texas Rangers on 1/11/64 claiming he overheard a conversation concerning "the attempt on Governor Connally's life". Mildred Meharg was in Apartment 2 of the same address.
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Greg,
Doubtful about Atlanta Directory from 60s...I havent seen them online, likely only available in a dusty basement, unless Ancestry has added them
I have to say this subject is no ordinary domestic matter.
I question Valentines motives and how he or FBI makes it seem like he merely overhears a conversation. When in fact he is quite friendly with Miller and even knows the brother inlaw and where he lives. Was he involved more than led to believe by the reports.
Was Valentine banging Mildred too?
He says he is from Georgia and was just passing through Dallas (really from where) and hears something about attempt on Connally.
(FBI follow up is as expected for non-investigation misdirection.)
Yet Valentine says Miller just moved to GA and gives different address than Apt 2.
So then what Miller moves to Valentine's building and next to Valentine in Apt 1.
Kinda a criss cross between Dallas/Atlanta for them.
So is Valentine a close associate or just a guy passing through Dallas... FBI is less than forthcoming in its reports and doesnt flesh out the leads. Makes it sound less important or reliable.
I, like Lee did when he wrote Nuisance Calls and House of Cards, find it hard to swallow the connection coincidences in this case. Its twisted.
The station wagon, the rifle planting, the Cuban or Negro, the Beckley rooming house, the calls.
I dont buy a drunk Miller making 24 hours of calls.
I dont buy a sober Miller making days worth of calls.
I dont buy Miller changing into a woman to make calls.
Sure Miller was looking for his sons and wanted to give them their presents. He naturally called around but bulk of these calls seem pawned off onto Miller.
IMO it wreaks of a conspiratorial insider getting jerked around and making waves.
Was Miller actually in Dealey Plaza at any time and saw the Station Wagon with a man driving near the TSBD is the question FBI avoids.
I'll keep my eyes peeled.
Good hunting!
Ed
Doubtful about Atlanta Directory from 60s...I havent seen them online, likely only available in a dusty basement, unless Ancestry has added them
I have to say this subject is no ordinary domestic matter.
I question Valentines motives and how he or FBI makes it seem like he merely overhears a conversation. When in fact he is quite friendly with Miller and even knows the brother inlaw and where he lives. Was he involved more than led to believe by the reports.
Was Valentine banging Mildred too?
He says he is from Georgia and was just passing through Dallas (really from where) and hears something about attempt on Connally.
(FBI follow up is as expected for non-investigation misdirection.)
Yet Valentine says Miller just moved to GA and gives different address than Apt 2.
So then what Miller moves to Valentine's building and next to Valentine in Apt 1.
Kinda a criss cross between Dallas/Atlanta for them.
So is Valentine a close associate or just a guy passing through Dallas... FBI is less than forthcoming in its reports and doesnt flesh out the leads. Makes it sound less important or reliable.
I, like Lee did when he wrote Nuisance Calls and House of Cards, find it hard to swallow the connection coincidences in this case. Its twisted.
The station wagon, the rifle planting, the Cuban or Negro, the Beckley rooming house, the calls.
I dont buy a drunk Miller making 24 hours of calls.
I dont buy a sober Miller making days worth of calls.
I dont buy Miller changing into a woman to make calls.
Sure Miller was looking for his sons and wanted to give them their presents. He naturally called around but bulk of these calls seem pawned off onto Miller.
IMO it wreaks of a conspiratorial insider getting jerked around and making waves.
Was Miller actually in Dealey Plaza at any time and saw the Station Wagon with a man driving near the TSBD is the question FBI avoids.
I'll keep my eyes peeled.
Good hunting!
Ed
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I agree the whole thing is puzzling. My first question on Valentine is can it be verified he existed and who was he (I can find no information). My second question would be why did FBI not investigate, at least to run down reason to dismiss Valentine's story. Valentine's claim as it stands, considered in isolation, is hypothetically completely possible: if he is already living in Apt #1 of the same unit in Atlanta where Mildred and new husband Miller newly moved into Apt #2, his overhearing could be through a thin adjoining apartment wall. On the face of it, Valentine was claiming to have overheard (through a thin apartment wall) a confession of involvement in the assassination spoken by the people living next door to him who had just moved there from Dallas, spoken of euphemistically by those people as "the attempt on Connally". This particular citizen call-in (of Valentine) might have been of more than routine interest to check out given that there was a reported witness sighting of Mildred's car at the scene of the assassination which may have been the same vehicle seen by Roger Craig. Like you, I wonder why there is no record of FBI interview of Valentine if only to establish that it was a false report (if so) and find out why Valentine did that (if so). Anyway thanks for your information up to this point. I sure wish Valentine could be identified and found and interviewed (conceivably still living somewhere). A city directory listing for Atlanta 1963 or 1964 might be able to verify Valentine's existence (if so) and if it also gave a middle initial just possibly that could be enough breakthrough to make possible maybe finding him...
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Yes without the fleshing out the initial, age etc this is more of a rumor by the FBI and why the need to include that Valentine passed through Dallas, as though that is where it was overheard rather than through the wall in Atlanta. Bizzare
Why would Valentine need to call a certain Texas Ranger and then need to call back him later.
Would his information be just as useful to anyone in law enforcement or the Rangers.
Red Flags are waving.
Why would Valentine need to call a certain Texas Ranger and then need to call back him later.
Would his information be just as useful to anyone in law enforcement or the Rangers.
Red Flags are waving.
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So Valentine is in Dallas but instead of going in person to DPD, Sheriff or Public Safety offices he calls the Rangers on the phone.
Speaks with one Ranger about what is not diclosed.
Has to hang up and call back ... but not right away.
Possibly a full day later Valentine calls back cant speak to a specific Ranger and ...
Then leaves a message.
And then.......FBI does little as possible to document this.
I would want to know how Valentine knew Robert Walker and where Bob lives in Irving.
Did Valentine hear all this through the apartment wall too?
What else was he listening to through the wall
Wonka Wonka!
Anyway;
I think the address for Miller given by Valentine a 366 Lake Drive Hamphill (?) Georgia, address is really either
366 Lake Dr, Atlanta, GA 30354
or
366 Midlake Dr Hemphill, TX 75948
Yeah I know, needs a check in the directory.
Ed
Speaks with one Ranger about what is not diclosed.
Has to hang up and call back ... but not right away.
Possibly a full day later Valentine calls back cant speak to a specific Ranger and ...
Then leaves a message.
And then.......FBI does little as possible to document this.
I would want to know how Valentine knew Robert Walker and where Bob lives in Irving.
Did Valentine hear all this through the apartment wall too?
What else was he listening to through the wall
Wonka Wonka!
Anyway;
I think the address for Miller given by Valentine a 366 Lake Drive Hamphill (?) Georgia, address is really either
366 Lake Dr, Atlanta, GA 30354
or
366 Midlake Dr Hemphill, TX 75948
Yeah I know, needs a check in the directory.
Ed
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Ancestry.com doesn't have anything for Atlanta after 1960, and none of the directories from '57-60 were scanned past about the letter "H". The '56 directory (below) does have a John W. Valentine listed, but I don't know how you'd verify it's the same guy without getting a more recent directory - which you'd probably have to go to an Atlanta library to find. The earlier city directories list John W's wife as Nellie L, and he is the only John Valentine listed in Atlanta going back to at least 1951:
Also, Bob Walker seems like someone worth looking into. I wonder what type of work Security Management Inc. did, and how he got into that business, etc. On opencorporates it shows that the company added a comma to its name in March-April 2021, and the original entity changed its status from 'Forfeited Franchise Tax' to 'Forfeited Existence', so Walker might be still alive. If so he might be worth tracking down.
Also, Bob Walker seems like someone worth looking into. I wonder what type of work Security Management Inc. did, and how he got into that business, etc. On opencorporates it shows that the company added a comma to its name in March-April 2021, and the original entity changed its status from 'Forfeited Franchise Tax' to 'Forfeited Existence', so Walker might be still alive. If so he might be worth tracking down.
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Tom,
I had their names written down, found their graves, etc... but yes are they the ones or what...hard to tell from just a John Valentine living in apartment in Atlanta.
On the matter of AC vs RC Johnson there is good and bad.
The bad was Royce Charles was married.
'1961 Dallas directory showed Delta J as his wife and gave Garland TX as address.
Looking for Delta J Johnson I found her as Deltha Johnson clrk at Republic Nat. Bank Garland TX..
Garland is farther than Irving is from Dallas and working as a cop it may be convenient to stay in Dallas at times at AC Johnson's inn. Or if Delta/Deltha kicked him out... I mean his obit doesnt list his wife! So take that for what it is.
I had their names written down, found their graves, etc... but yes are they the ones or what...hard to tell from just a John Valentine living in apartment in Atlanta.
On the matter of AC vs RC Johnson there is good and bad.
The bad was Royce Charles was married.
'1961 Dallas directory showed Delta J as his wife and gave Garland TX as address.
Looking for Delta J Johnson I found her as Deltha Johnson clrk at Republic Nat. Bank Garland TX..
Garland is farther than Irving is from Dallas and working as a cop it may be convenient to stay in Dallas at times at AC Johnson's inn. Or if Delta/Deltha kicked him out... I mean his obit doesnt list his wife! So take that for what it is.
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Ruby Johnson
MASON - Ruby Johnson, 91, died Saturday, July 18, 1998, in a local nursing
home. Service will be at 10 a.m. Monday in Mason Funeral Home Chapel with
burial in Gooch Cemetery. She was born Sept. 15, 1906, in Mason County and was
a lifetime resident. She was a homemaker and a Methodist. Survivors include two
sons, Royce C. Johnson of Dallas and Floyd R. Johnson of Mason; a daughter,
Dorothy Tatsch of Mason; and numerous grandchildren, great-grandchildren and
great-great-grandchildren.
MASON - Ruby Johnson, 91, died Saturday, July 18, 1998, in a local nursing
home. Service will be at 10 a.m. Monday in Mason Funeral Home Chapel with
burial in Gooch Cemetery. She was born Sept. 15, 1906, in Mason County and was
a lifetime resident. She was a homemaker and a Methodist. Survivors include two
sons, Royce C. Johnson of Dallas and Floyd R. Johnson of Mason; a daughter,
Dorothy Tatsch of Mason; and numerous grandchildren, great-grandchildren and
great-great-grandchildren.
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I made contact with and talked to David B. Miller, Jr., the younger son of Marion Meharg. He is a decent person and was 9 years old at the time. Several things learned.
David Leon Miller, his stepfather, was not in Dallas on Nov 22, 1963 but was in Atlanta, because that is where David Jr. and his older brother John Meharg, then 11, were, and his stepfather and mother were too.
I believe Marion Meharg was the source of the phone calls as the FBI surmised. As to what Marion saw on Nov 22--he MAY have been at Dealey Plaza and seen the same station wagon that was reported by Roger Craig and the driver of a car behind the station wagon, HOWEVER both of those witnesses said the vehicle in question was a Rambler station wagon, not a Chevy. And however one judges the testimony of Richard Randolph Carr, Carr also identified the similar-sounding vehicle that he said he saw as a Rambler. No other witness of that vehicle associated with the running man, etc. to my knowledge, identified it as a Chevy.
I gave some thought to asking, if Marion Meharg did see something, just where would he be located to have seen what he claimed to have seen? After some thought it dawned on me--his story sounds very similar or parallel, in terms of what he claimed to have witnessed, to the story of Richard Carr. Therefore, if Marion Meharg was a witness of something in Dealey Plaza that day, he could have been one of the several others that Carr said were also on the same building and had seen the same whatever that Carr saw. HOWEVER that was 500 yards away from the TSBD, very distant, and Meharg would not have been close enough to see a license plate, and he simply misidentified the station wagon which all other witnesses identified as a Rambler. That is, if Meharg did see something it would be the Rambler of the other witnesses, mistaken by Meharg for his ex-wife's two-tone green and white Chevy wagon.
David Jr. told me his father had never mentioned to him being in Dealey Plaza or a witness to the assassination/TSBD, and it came as a surprise to him when I told him that is what Marion had claimed to the Dallas Police and FBI.
Therefore David Leon Miller is verified by his stepson as in Atlanta the day of the assassination, and there is no basis to suppose involvement of David Leon Miller in anything. All of the charges look like they come from Marion Meharg and none are credible. It is a sad story of Marion Meharg, who had lost his wife, making claims that were not true against his ex-wife and the man whom he probably blamed for taking her from him. Son David Jr., 9 yrs old at the time, said he was not told much about it by family and it was embarrassing when years later he learned some of the story of his father's charges against his mother and stepfather. I tried to say he had nothing to do with it, he was just a kid, and it was just sad. According to son David Jr., the only criminal record his stepfather ever had was a DUI once.
Marion Meharg died a few years later in the 1960s. David Jr.'s older brother John died a couple of years ago of cancer, and most of the rest of his family members are gone. He told how he was in school, third or fourth grade or somewhere in there, in Atlanta the day of the assassination. All the other kids knew he was a transfer student from Dallas, and he was sitting in the back of the classroom. He told how mortifying it was to him, when the class was told the news of the assassination, all the rest of the kids in the class turned around and looked back and stared at David Jr., because they knew he was from Dallas, as if Dallas, and he, were somehow to blame, as a 9-yr old would feel. He said the entire family was very pro-Kennedy and mourned the loss of JFK.
Just one more story of average people through chaos theory in history, caught up in a national event. And Marion Meharg, more tragic than anything else. David Jr. did not have to talk to me, but I am glad he did. To all of his family members who have now passed on, RIP.
David Leon Miller, his stepfather, was not in Dallas on Nov 22, 1963 but was in Atlanta, because that is where David Jr. and his older brother John Meharg, then 11, were, and his stepfather and mother were too.
I believe Marion Meharg was the source of the phone calls as the FBI surmised. As to what Marion saw on Nov 22--he MAY have been at Dealey Plaza and seen the same station wagon that was reported by Roger Craig and the driver of a car behind the station wagon, HOWEVER both of those witnesses said the vehicle in question was a Rambler station wagon, not a Chevy. And however one judges the testimony of Richard Randolph Carr, Carr also identified the similar-sounding vehicle that he said he saw as a Rambler. No other witness of that vehicle associated with the running man, etc. to my knowledge, identified it as a Chevy.
I gave some thought to asking, if Marion Meharg did see something, just where would he be located to have seen what he claimed to have seen? After some thought it dawned on me--his story sounds very similar or parallel, in terms of what he claimed to have witnessed, to the story of Richard Carr. Therefore, if Marion Meharg was a witness of something in Dealey Plaza that day, he could have been one of the several others that Carr said were also on the same building and had seen the same whatever that Carr saw. HOWEVER that was 500 yards away from the TSBD, very distant, and Meharg would not have been close enough to see a license plate, and he simply misidentified the station wagon which all other witnesses identified as a Rambler. That is, if Meharg did see something it would be the Rambler of the other witnesses, mistaken by Meharg for his ex-wife's two-tone green and white Chevy wagon.
David Jr. told me his father had never mentioned to him being in Dealey Plaza or a witness to the assassination/TSBD, and it came as a surprise to him when I told him that is what Marion had claimed to the Dallas Police and FBI.
Therefore David Leon Miller is verified by his stepson as in Atlanta the day of the assassination, and there is no basis to suppose involvement of David Leon Miller in anything. All of the charges look like they come from Marion Meharg and none are credible. It is a sad story of Marion Meharg, who had lost his wife, making claims that were not true against his ex-wife and the man whom he probably blamed for taking her from him. Son David Jr., 9 yrs old at the time, said he was not told much about it by family and it was embarrassing when years later he learned some of the story of his father's charges against his mother and stepfather. I tried to say he had nothing to do with it, he was just a kid, and it was just sad. According to son David Jr., the only criminal record his stepfather ever had was a DUI once.
Marion Meharg died a few years later in the 1960s. David Jr.'s older brother John died a couple of years ago of cancer, and most of the rest of his family members are gone. He told how he was in school, third or fourth grade or somewhere in there, in Atlanta the day of the assassination. All the other kids knew he was a transfer student from Dallas, and he was sitting in the back of the classroom. He told how mortifying it was to him, when the class was told the news of the assassination, all the rest of the kids in the class turned around and looked back and stared at David Jr., because they knew he was from Dallas, as if Dallas, and he, were somehow to blame, as a 9-yr old would feel. He said the entire family was very pro-Kennedy and mourned the loss of JFK.
Just one more story of average people through chaos theory in history, caught up in a national event. And Marion Meharg, more tragic than anything else. David Jr. did not have to talk to me, but I am glad he did. To all of his family members who have now passed on, RIP.
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Re: The Case of the Nuisance Phone Calls Redux
Sun 11 Sep 2022, 5:57 pm
And whom then was the woman calling about it...
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Re: The Case of the Nuisance Phone Calls Redux
Sun 11 Sep 2022, 11:18 pm
I don't know who the woman was Ed. Since all the other calls were men is it even possible that is a mistake (misinterpretation by someone of a voice), but I don't know. If it was a real woman then yes it means a second person probably involved with the man making the calls, I don't know.
But here is what I do know: that the car Marion Meharg saw or was told about that day and claimed to see, whichever it was, was a Rambler, not his wife's green-and-white Chevy station wagon, and the running man was someone other than David Leon Miller. David L. Miller has an alibi of being in Atlanta the day of the assassination and unrelated to anything of the assassination (Atlanta also being the likely location of Mildred's Chevy station wagon on Nov 22 too, since a visiting daughter of Mildred a week before the assassination said the vehicle was there in Atlanta when she was there, and the Chevy station wagon would be with David B.'s mother and stepfather who were in Atlanta on Nov 22 according to David B). Then, on the identity of the caller, we have Marion admitting he made anonymous calls to law enforcement, just not admitting all of them, but admitting some, such that the pattern of anonymous calling to law enforcement is a m.o. Then the only issue is the ones he denied making, and the question of whether the denial is true or not true. And he had an alcohol problem. If Marion believed his ex-wife Mildred and David L. Miller were involved in the assassination he was delusional. The only other possibility is a complicated plot operation also in which Mildred and David L. Miller are innocent but plotters in Dallas were piggybacking on Marion Meharg's phone calls for what purpose... a bit obscure what purpose served ... a complicated plot that goes nowhere... so that's my reasoning. There is so much of real interest with the JFK assassination but this is like a rabbit hole that goes nowhere in which people are innocent. Most likely Marion did all of the phone calls; if he had help or if very unlikely someone else was impersonating Marion in making the objectionable ones it still goes nowhere, no way to know and no way to link it to anyone or anything else, and unlikely in the first place...
Also, on Royce D. Johnson son of James Floyd Johnson, that is a real person and correct middle initial, and is not the Dallas Police officer Royce C., see https://www.ancestry.com/genealogy/records/james-floyd-johnson-24-15sjnjt. Royce C. Johnson the officer has nothing to do with anything in this story, that's a red herring.
On the phone call to Robbie Love attempting to incriminate Mildred's mother, Bernice Click, and again David L. Miller, from the caller who claimed in the spring of 1964 to have been on Nov 22, 1963 a colored man working on Bernice's lawn and overhearing Bernice Click on the phone talking about being part of the assassination and her son-in-law's involvement in it, the story does not make sense. In the fall of 1963 all the FBI interview reports have Bernice Click living in Dallas, not Irving, and David B. told me his grandmother, Bernice Click, lived in Dallas not Irving that fall. The FBI found records that Bernice Click only moved to the address in Irving (of the phone call to Robbie Love) in early 1964, later than Nov 22, also same with the phone number of Bernice Click. And why persons in an assassination of a president would be talking openly with a lawn-mover kid overhearing ... and again an anonymous phone caller like the other anonymous phone calls... it was either Marion, Marion-with-help, or the postulated elaborate plotters piggybacking on and framing Marion, in increasing order of complexity, the last a lot more complex and goes nowhere, the first or second looks more likely.
The part about Marion loving his two boys, John and then-named Marion B. Meharg (later changed his name to David B. Miller), ages 11 and 9 respectively, is true from what David B. told me. David B. told me he did not know how his father found them in Atlanta but he found them, showed up one day in Atlanta to see his boys.
But here is what I do know: that the car Marion Meharg saw or was told about that day and claimed to see, whichever it was, was a Rambler, not his wife's green-and-white Chevy station wagon, and the running man was someone other than David Leon Miller. David L. Miller has an alibi of being in Atlanta the day of the assassination and unrelated to anything of the assassination (Atlanta also being the likely location of Mildred's Chevy station wagon on Nov 22 too, since a visiting daughter of Mildred a week before the assassination said the vehicle was there in Atlanta when she was there, and the Chevy station wagon would be with David B.'s mother and stepfather who were in Atlanta on Nov 22 according to David B). Then, on the identity of the caller, we have Marion admitting he made anonymous calls to law enforcement, just not admitting all of them, but admitting some, such that the pattern of anonymous calling to law enforcement is a m.o. Then the only issue is the ones he denied making, and the question of whether the denial is true or not true. And he had an alcohol problem. If Marion believed his ex-wife Mildred and David L. Miller were involved in the assassination he was delusional. The only other possibility is a complicated plot operation also in which Mildred and David L. Miller are innocent but plotters in Dallas were piggybacking on Marion Meharg's phone calls for what purpose... a bit obscure what purpose served ... a complicated plot that goes nowhere... so that's my reasoning. There is so much of real interest with the JFK assassination but this is like a rabbit hole that goes nowhere in which people are innocent. Most likely Marion did all of the phone calls; if he had help or if very unlikely someone else was impersonating Marion in making the objectionable ones it still goes nowhere, no way to know and no way to link it to anyone or anything else, and unlikely in the first place...
Also, on Royce D. Johnson son of James Floyd Johnson, that is a real person and correct middle initial, and is not the Dallas Police officer Royce C., see https://www.ancestry.com/genealogy/records/james-floyd-johnson-24-15sjnjt. Royce C. Johnson the officer has nothing to do with anything in this story, that's a red herring.
On the phone call to Robbie Love attempting to incriminate Mildred's mother, Bernice Click, and again David L. Miller, from the caller who claimed in the spring of 1964 to have been on Nov 22, 1963 a colored man working on Bernice's lawn and overhearing Bernice Click on the phone talking about being part of the assassination and her son-in-law's involvement in it, the story does not make sense. In the fall of 1963 all the FBI interview reports have Bernice Click living in Dallas, not Irving, and David B. told me his grandmother, Bernice Click, lived in Dallas not Irving that fall. The FBI found records that Bernice Click only moved to the address in Irving (of the phone call to Robbie Love) in early 1964, later than Nov 22, also same with the phone number of Bernice Click. And why persons in an assassination of a president would be talking openly with a lawn-mover kid overhearing ... and again an anonymous phone caller like the other anonymous phone calls... it was either Marion, Marion-with-help, or the postulated elaborate plotters piggybacking on and framing Marion, in increasing order of complexity, the last a lot more complex and goes nowhere, the first or second looks more likely.
The part about Marion loving his two boys, John and then-named Marion B. Meharg (later changed his name to David B. Miller), ages 11 and 9 respectively, is true from what David B. told me. David B. told me he did not know how his father found them in Atlanta but he found them, showed up one day in Atlanta to see his boys.
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Re: The Case of the Nuisance Phone Calls Redux
Thu 15 Sep 2022, 4:31 am
Its no mistake.
Unless your postulate requires ignoring evidence.
A woman was involved, which throws a monkey wrench in the works.
Thanks though.
Cheers
Ed
Unless your postulate requires ignoring evidence.
A woman was involved, which throws a monkey wrench in the works.
Thanks though.
Cheers
Ed
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