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on Wed 09 Oct 2019, 10:41 am
Lance debating...



I hope Milhouse had his own area of the garden to do his constitutional...

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Checkmate.

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on Wed 09 Oct 2019, 10:47 am
I hope for his sake the wind doesn't change direction...

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on Thu 10 Oct 2019, 6:31 am
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on Sat 12 Oct 2019, 8:11 am
Lance Payette wrote:The point of these little exercises on my part is to demonstrate how often these Conspiracy Capitalists who try to wow and overwhelm you with their knowledge are actually serving up a pastiche of sloppy research (by themselves or others whom they uncritically parrot),
You keep making my point for me. Uncritical parroting happens on both sides - but is far worse on the LN side. Name a single LN author who has actually investigated any claims made by the Warren Commission. And if authors do not, you can be sure none of the forum LNers do, including yourself. That you don;t seem to get (much less care) that this should work both ways, is what really pisses me off - especially since I did hold out hope you could be reasoned with on this issue. 

half-truths, 
e.g. Ruby was friendly with some cops.

complete fantasy, 
e.g. Oswald was a wife-beater

rank speculation 
e.g. Oswald took home some wrapping paper for the rifle

and dark innuendo,
e.g. He wanted to mark his mark on history

all garnished with just enough historical truth to give it a veneer of plausibility
e.g. he did not have an idea childhood, he was a truant, he spent time in the SU, he had issues with his military discharge status

especially if you're too lazy to do your own fact-checking (which in my case has seldom required more than 30 minutes).  
Fact checking! Yay! 

That is what we do do here. But not just on one side of the picket fence. That's lazy. That biased.  


When you expose them, they just move on as though nothing had happened, as Jim does here.
O the irony!

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Mixing Pop and Politics he asks me what the use is
I offer him embarrassment and my usual excuses
While looking down the corridor
Out to where the van is waiting
I'm looking for the Great Leap Forward

            Billy Bragg
-----------------------------
 Australians don't mind criminals: It's successful bullshit artists we despise. 
             Lachie Hulme            
-----------------------------
The Cold War ran on bullshit.
              Me

The menu is not the meal” Alan Watts
"He who takes offense when no offense is intended is a fool, and he who takes offense when offense is intended is a greater fool." Brigham Young
"
For evil deeds may better than bad words be borne." Spenser
 



https://www.thenewdisease.space
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on Sat 12 Oct 2019, 11:33 am
People who stand on the claim of having done monumental work based on logic for forty years goes out the window if they cannot apply it to this case.

If Einstein or Aristotle came up with the same crap as Lance, they would be as wrong as he is.

The amount of brain cells does not matter if you cannot engage them in the simple examination of evidence in this case. Getting stuck on "conspiracy theories" of the past or the "Warren Commission" as gospel, is what one does when they do NOT engage the little gray cells.

As much as Lance may claim such engagement in other venues, the evidence of his using any of it in this case is sorely, nay, completely, lacking.

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on Sat 12 Oct 2019, 11:44 am
Terry W. Martin wrote:People who stand on the claim of having done monumental work based on logic for forty years goes out the window if they cannot apply it to this case.

If Einstein or Aristotle came up with the same crap as Lance, they would be as wrong as he is.

The amount of brain cells does not matter if you cannot engage them in the simple examination of evidence in this case. Getting stuck on "conspiracy theories" of the past or the "Warren Commission" as gospel, is what one does when they do NOT engage the little gray cells.

As much as Lance may claim such engagement in other venues, the evidence of his using any of it in this case is sorely, nay, completely, lacking.
Wordsmithery at its best.

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Mixing Pop and Politics he asks me what the use is
I offer him embarrassment and my usual excuses
While looking down the corridor
Out to where the van is waiting
I'm looking for the Great Leap Forward

            Billy Bragg
-----------------------------
 Australians don't mind criminals: It's successful bullshit artists we despise. 
             Lachie Hulme            
-----------------------------
The Cold War ran on bullshit.
              Me

The menu is not the meal” Alan Watts
"He who takes offense when no offense is intended is a fool, and he who takes offense when offense is intended is a greater fool." Brigham Young
"
For evil deeds may better than bad words be borne." Spenser
 



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on Sat 12 Oct 2019, 11:51 am
Lance is a loyer...just like the august members of the WC. Loyer training 101....look away when you throw sand.

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Checkmate.

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on Sat 12 Oct 2019, 11:19 pm
He says that he is giving up on JFK research and has asked Gordon to delete his account.
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on Wed 06 Nov 2019, 2:59 pm
"asked Gordon to delete his account."

Oh, what a pitty.
This was his Titanic.
Too short lived, tragic but entertaining till the end.

Ed
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on Wed 06 Nov 2019, 9:09 pm
Well he has not returned to the EF since then so I guess he meant it when he said that he would retiring from JFK research.
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on Sat 09 Nov 2019, 8:38 am
His presence and his offerings will not be sorely missed.

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