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John Kowalski @ the 13\" Head Forum wrote:If you want to critique H&L please do. John Armstrong welcomes it.

John, really? Ask Robert Charles Dunne how he was treated way back when this Irish stew was being brewed when all he had done was offer a very sane suggestion. 

Or this from someone I have recently had contact with, who is a supporter of the thesis but not of all of Armstrong's evidence for it. I Quote direct from his email to me: 

"I remember coming across John Armstrong's book and even bought it. When I started questioning some things he had written, I contacted him. But instead of a conversation, he got very mad at me for questioning ANYTHING he had written and refused to talk with me!)" 

He welcomes it so much that before your comrades got me banned over there, I got under his skin so much that Mr. Baggins dolefully informed me that Armstrong was quitting JFK research and would no longer answer any questions. That lasted until I was ousted from the Hallowed Halls of 13-Inch-Headism.

John Armstrong treats those with questions, suggestions or criticism like they were Jehovah's Witnesses knocking on his door in the middle of an orgy. If he were any thinner skinned, he'd be opaque. Literally.

Jake_Sykes wrote:May I add:
Not wanting to go where Oswald went.

LOL. Yes, you may!

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The Baggins Big Top  has unfurled its moth eaten  banner , unpacked its vast collection of  stale long debunked propaganda tropes,  and set up shop in the ever hospitable  conspiracy loving backwaters, fondly  known as the  13 Inch Head Forum.

And make no mistake  it IS a circus, in every conceivable sense. And like most circuses,  it's dull, predictable and  out of touch. A bunch of rheumy old twats trying desperately to appear relevant. 

In his latest incarnation Jimbo has dropped all remaining pretence...blatantly and without shame his sole intent is to pump out as much propaganda as possible for the  tawdry,  slightly sinister  downmarket  fundamentalist cult, he's wasted nigh on a quarter of a century trying to pass off as " assassination research related "

Like their circusy kin( the everything is fake brigade) H and L is nothing more than an impediment,  disrupting,  and corrupting,  authentic  historical enquiry. 

Apart from Ralph Cinque and the nightmarish OIC, no one has done more than Jimbo and his hapless troupe of dances, doppelettes and borderline illiterates to promote and  solidify the lone nut lie. Like the  everything is fake brigade and Liftons necrotic confections they manage to make the SBT fairy tale and the lone nut lie seem eminently reasonable. They have managed to EXCEED the  worst stereotypes of wild eyed frothing at the mouth conspiracy theorists the mainstream media loves to promote 

The " theory" is utterly preposterous,  designed to appeal to the most gullible and disenfranchised ..characters with no real knowledge of the subject,  and crucially,  no real desire to learn. 

If it wasn't for its zombie like longevity and the stubborn persistence of the main acolytes , it would be nothing more than just another example of the lunatic fringe at play. A harmless curio...

I don't understand how ANYONE can believe this shite. Its pervasiveness makes any meaningful research into the very real impersonations that did take place almost impossible. Likewise I can't understand how the few remaining believers can overlook the unscrupulous methods often used to prop up the fantasy. Baggins tactics represent the antithesis of honest research. 

Ask  Greg. How many of his research threads were hijacked by the  H and L footsoldiers?, and  turned into pantomimes..A crowd of sanctimonious bellends arguing if was HARVEY  or  LEE..

If Armstrong,  Baggins and their mangy  flock actually cared about the assassination , rather than  looking for  ways to  further indulge  their grandiose narcissistic  conspiratorial  fantasies , they should do the honourable thing. 

Stop making a mockery of the subject,  a subject many good hearted  industrious souls have spent years of their lives researching , a subject  most of us care about. 

John Butler and  Sandy Larsen are probably great guys. No doubt they have many other talents. But they are not fucking researchers. Butler in particular. His " work " is downright insulting. 

I apologise if I'm repeating myself,  but it makes me so fucking angry.  To see this shite peddled. Not to mention the unscrupulous tactics of the peddler in chief 

They have fashioned themselves a self sealing fantasy dimension. Impervious to reality or rational thinking. 

I don't agree with much of what Greg Doudna  writes about the assassination,  but he was spot on when he described the  13 inch head forum as a cult. Or rather several intersecting mutually supportive cults. 

Apparently they've decided the best way to demolish the Warren Report lie is to ape its worst excesses,. Lies and distortions are perfectly acceptable if the lies and distortions in question happen to support conspiracy. Or rather the cults particular notion of conspiracy. 

This approach has drastically reduced the impact , and crucially the credibility of the  responsible  supportable  pro conspiracy argument.

Well said, Alex.

"Stop making a mockery of the subject, a subject many good hearted industrious souls have spent years of their lives researching , a subject most of us care about."

Or just grow up.

Thanks Alex.

Succinctly put Alex

#payattentionbrian

Like the hashtag youre sporting Bart

#payattentionbrian

You're right Alex and I'm afraid they know you're right. As such, I imagine they celebrate the frustration that their tawdry charade induces in others. All the while EF shamelessly allows it go on and on and on and on.

Their intention seems to be to prevent the case from being reopened or solved.