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Dale Myers Claims RFK Had Allen Dulles Appointed To The Warren Commission

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Dale Myers Claims RFK Had Allen Dulles Appointed To The Warren Commission

Post by Vinny on Sat 31 Aug 2013, 10:10 pm

From his recent article.

RFK and the Warren Commission

Conspiracy advocates focused on the CIA have also steadfastly overlooked the role Robert F. Kennedy had in manipulating the Warren Commission.

When President Johnson asked Bobby Kennedy to name the people he wanted appointed to the Commission, Johnson was surprised to hear RFK name John McCloy and Allen Dulles – two CIA leaders.

Dulles, of course, knew about White House plans to kill Fidel Castro and kept it from the Warren Commission.

Full article available at his site JFK files blog. jfkfiles.blogspot.com/2013/08/drums-of-conspiracy.html

Is it actually true? I found it quite shocking.

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Re: Dale Myers Claims RFK Had Allen Dulles Appointed To The Warren Commission

Post by Hasan Yusuf on Sat 31 Aug 2013, 11:53 pm

JFK Student wrote:From his recent article.

RFK and the Warren Commission

Conspiracy advocates focused on the CIA have also steadfastly overlooked the role Robert F. Kennedy had in manipulating the Warren Commission.

When President Johnson asked Bobby Kennedy to name the people he wanted appointed to the Commission, Johnson was surprised to hear RFK name John McCloy and Allen Dulles – two CIA leaders.

Dulles, of course, knew about White House plans to kill Fidel Castro and kept it from the Warren Commission.

Full article available at his site JFK files blog. jfkfiles.blogspot.com/2013/08/drums-of-conspiracy.html

Is it actually true? I found it quite shocking.
Dale Myers is a lying sack of shit (pardon my French). After the Bay of Pigs failure, and after the Kennedy brother's discovered that Dulles and the CIA had deceived them about the invasion, JFK fired him. Then, RFK asked Dean Rusk if Dulles had any relatives employed by the Government. Rusk apparently told him that he had a sister named Eleanor Dulles who worked at the state department. RFK told him words to the effect; "get rid of her. I don't want anymore of that Dulles family around".
 
In light of that bit of information, it simply boggles the mind that RFK would appoint Dulles to the WC. Dale Myers can stick his claim where the sun don't shine.
 
P.S Apologies for any mistakes I made in the above post. I was in a rush.

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Re: Dale Myers Claims RFK Had Allen Dulles Appointed To The Warren Commission

Post by James DiEugenio on Sun 01 Sep 2013, 2:19 am

Not, "apparently"  that is what Rusk told him.

That is right from Mosley's book.  And he had access to Eleanor Dulles.

This really hurt her retirement plans and what she had planned as a way of finishing her career.

But the other thing is, if one reads the Taylor Commission hearings, its pretty obvious that RFK understood that Dulles had set up his brother at Bay of Pigs.  This is why he was pushing to have him fired and brought in Robert Lovett to seal the deal.

I have read reports that what really happened is that Dulles actually lobbied Johnson for the position.  That would make sense if he was the guy in the room with Rostow when Rostow called the White House to first float the idea of a Commission with Johnson.

That Caro would fall for such a cock and bull story, which Johnson clearly put out years later to cover his ass when the WC report was beginning to collapse, this tells you  all you need to know about his book.

That Myers would recycle it, well what does one expect from Mr. Single Bullet Fact man.

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Re: Dale Myers Claims RFK Had Allen Dulles Appointed To The Warren Commission

Post by Hasan Yusuf on Sun 01 Sep 2013, 5:31 am

James DiEugenio wrote:Not, "apparently"  that is what Rusk told him.
Sorry, Jim. I rushed my post, so I stuffed up.

That Myers would recycle it, well what does one expect from Mr. Single Bullet Fact man.
Anything but the truth.

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Re: Dale Myers Claims RFK Had Allen Dulles Appointed To The Warren Commission

Post by Vinny on Sun 01 Sep 2013, 1:57 pm

Thanks for the info,Hasan and Jim.

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Re: Dale Myers Claims RFK Had Allen Dulles Appointed To The Warren Commission

Post by Martin Hay on Sun 01 Sep 2013, 5:42 pm

So JFK and the CIA had an excellent relationship because the CIA said so?

That's the best Russo and Myers could come up with?

Who's falling for this shit?

Apparently Jeff Morley is working on a "full response". If I was him, I wouldn't waste my time.

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Re: Dale Myers Claims RFK Had Allen Dulles Appointed To The Warren Commission

Post by Hasan Yusuf on Sun 01 Sep 2013, 7:15 pm

JFK Student wrote:Thanks for the info,Hasan and Jim.
You're welcome.

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Re: Dale Myers Claims RFK Had Allen Dulles Appointed To The Warren Commission

Post by Hasan Yusuf on Mon 02 Sep 2013, 6:12 am

Martin Hay wrote:So JFK and the CIA had an excellent relationship because the CIA said so?

That's the best Russo and Myers could come up with?

Who's falling for this shit?

Apparently Jeff Morley is working on a "full response". If I was him, I wouldn't waste my time.
Martin,
 
This is sort of like the Police letting a suspect go because he said that he didn't commit the crime they are charging him with; and ignoring all the evidence which supports his guilt.
 
Myers is nothing but a bullshit artist (not that I really had to point that out).

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Re: Dale Myers Claims RFK Had Allen Dulles Appointed To The Warren Commission

Post by James DiEugenio on Tue 03 Sep 2013, 2:05 am

I will reply to this also by way of a review I am working on.

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Re: Dale Myers Claims RFK Had Allen Dulles Appointed To The Warren Commission

Post by Vinny on Tue 03 Sep 2013, 2:28 pm

Jeff has published a rebuttal to this on his site.

jfkfacts.org/assassination/experts/the-drums-of-conspiracy-and-the-fear-of-transparency/

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Re: Dale Myers Claims RFK Had Allen Dulles Appointed To The Warren Commission

Post by Vinny on Tue 03 Sep 2013, 2:29 pm

James DiEugenio wrote:I will reply to this also by way of a review I am working on.
Looking forward to reading it,Jim.Your articles are excellent.

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Re: Dale Myers Claims RFK Had Allen Dulles Appointed To The Warren Commission

Post by James DiEugenio on Sun 08 Sep 2013, 12:23 am

Thanks.

These two guys are such absolute clowns.  All they need is some greasepaint on their faces.

What really gets me is this:  Its not bad enough that these flip floppers (Reitzes, Russo, Myers) change direction without explanation; its not bad enough that some of them make big money for it;  but then they have to go ahead and attack people who didn't flip flop.  And they do it by using the same phony evidence that they know is rigged e.g. like the CIA's own study, and the HSCA medical panel.

I mean please, give us all a break.

Its funny that its just  Pat Speer arguing with Crazy Dave R at EF.

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Re: Dale Myers Claims RFK Had Allen Dulles Appointed To The Warren Commission

Post by Admin_2 on Sun 08 Sep 2013, 12:36 am

James DiEugenio wrote:Thanks.

These two guys are such absolute clowns.  All they need is some greasepaint on their faces.

What really gets me is this:  Its not bad enough that these flip floppers (Reitzes, Russo, Myers) change direction without explanation; its not bad enough that some of them make big money for it;  but then they have to go ahead and attack people who didn't flip flop.  And they do it by using the same phony evidence that they know is rigged e.g. like the CIA's own study, and the HSCA medical panel.

I mean please, give us all a break.

Its funny that its just  Pat Speer arguing with Crazy Dave R at EF.
They have absolutely no shame, Jim. The last thing in the world these idiots care about is the truth behind the President's assassination.

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