JFK Assassination

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I'm curious to know why no one is interested in Boris Pash? A man who lied to Church Senate Committee about his retirement to cover up his knowledge of Oswald

Whiteout: The CIA, Drugs, and the Press
 By Alexander Cockburn
Documentation without proof
[url=http://books.google.co.th/books?id=s5qIj_h_PtkC&pg=PA152&dq=boris+pash&hl=en&sa=X&ei=j1gQVPvrNZDJuATguIHICQ&ved=0CDEQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=boris pash&f=false]http://books.google.co.th/books?id=s5qIj_h_PtkC&pg=PA152&dq=boris+pash&hl=en&sa=X&ei=j1gQVPvrNZDJuATguIHICQ&ved=0CDEQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=boris%20pash&f=false[/url]

http://books.google.co.th/books?id=BTUwAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA355&dq=boris+pash&hl=en&sa=X&ei=QXMQVK-6GsagugSuioKwBA&ved=0CE8Q6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=boris%20pash&f=false
 

See page 106 pash was 50 years ahead of time

Documented proof that Pash had photo reconnaissance role with CIA/Army !954 to 1956== MR Baron-AND what did you do after PB-7-
Pash- i went to Alaska on a planning activity to establish intelligence collecting organization with the  Alaska Command




https://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=1430&relPageId=59
read page 59 and 60













Lt Col Mitchell (1925- ) was interviewed on October 1, 2003.




As a captain, Mitchell was a member of the 746th Troop Carrier




Squadron from 1954 to 1956 during his assignment as a C-119







aircraft commander for the aerial recovery mission of Genetrix1




reconnaissance balloons. He flew the Genetrix recovery patrols




in Alaska.







.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Genetrix




1961 The first generation type (i.e. Corona  and Zenit) SATILITE took photographs, then ejected canisters of photographic film which would descend to earth. Corona capsules were retrieved in mid-air as they floated down on parachutes

Psychiatric Report  Jack Ruby

Young Jack soon showed the effects of parental discord. On June 6, 1922, at the age of 11, he was referred to the Institute for Juvenile Research by the Jewish Social Service Bureau. The reason for the referral was "truancy and incorrigible at home." 45 On July 10, 1922, the institute recommended to the bureau that Jack be placed in a new environment where his characteristics might be understood and where he might be afforded the supervision and recreation that would end his interest in street gangs.46 In March 1923, the institute advised the bureau that "placement in a home, where intelligent supervision and discipline can be given" was appropriate.47

The institute's psychiatric examination, which served as a basis for these recommendations, took place in 1922, prior to the advent of many techniques and theories of modern psychiatry,48 but it is the most objective evidence of Jack Ruby's childhood character. According to the psychiatric report, Jack was "quick tempered" and "disobedient." 49 He frequently disagreed openly with his mother, whom he considered an inferior person with whose rules he did not have to comply.50 Jack told the institute's interviewer that he ran away from home because his mother lied to him and beat him.51 Although Mrs. Rubenstein was severe with her children, she was described as totally incapable of coping with them "because of their delinquencies, i.e., principally their destructive tendencies and disregard for other people's property." 52 His mother's "extreme temperament" and quarrelsomeness were cited as possible causes of Jack's "bad behavior." 53

To me the most refilling part of Pash's testimony to Church Cimmittee (page 59)was his trip to South America to recruit expat (natzi) for training school  in Central (panama) America'

The School of the Americas was first established as the U.S. Army Caribbean Training Center in Panama in 1946 to help professionalize Latin American and Caribbean militaries. The SOA was founded as a combat school focused on counterinsurgency techniques. Rather than contributing to the development of democracy in the region, the SOA actually taught methods that undermined and destroyed democratic values
The U.S. General Accounting Office conducted an investigation into the SOA in 1996 revealing that the school used training manuals advocating torture, "truth serum" to extract confessions, false imprisonment, bounty hunting, blackmail and execution. Pentagon officials initially claimed they had no idea what had been going on at the SOA, because the staff members assigned to review SOA teaching manuals couldn't read enough Spanish to understand what they said.

gerrrycam wrote:Psychiatric Report  Jack Ruby

Young Jack soon showed the effects of parental discord. On June 6, 1922, at the age of 11, he was referred to the Institute for Juvenile Research by the Jewish Social Service Bureau. The reason for the referral was "truancy and incorrigible at home." 45 On July 10, 1922, the institute recommended to the bureau that Jack be placed in a new environment where his characteristics might be understood and where he might be afforded the supervision and recreation that would end his interest in street gangs.46 In March 1923, the institute advised the bureau that "placement in a home, where intelligent supervision and discipline can be given" was appropriate.47

The institute's psychiatric examination, which served as a basis for these recommendations, took place in 1922, prior to the advent of many techniques and theories of modern psychiatry,48 but it is the most objective evidence of Jack Ruby's childhood character. According to the psychiatric report, Jack was "quick tempered" and "disobedient." 49 He frequently disagreed openly with his mother, whom he considered an inferior person with whose rules he did not have to comply.50 Jack told the institute's interviewer that he ran away from home because his mother lied to him and beat him.51 Although Mrs. Rubenstein was severe with her children, she was described as totally incapable of coping with them "because of their delinquencies, i.e., principally their destructive tendencies and disregard for other people's property." 52 His mother's "extreme temperament" and quarrelsomeness were cited as possible causes of Jack's "bad behavior." 53

This is fascinating as it sounds similar to what Ozzie went through as a "troubled youth" some twenty years later.

I wonder if Ruby might not have been someone's project from an earlier period of the same mind-game people that played with Ozzie.

And I also wonder if they might not be able to lead us back to those that were controlling Leon Czolgosz?

http://www.intelius.com/people/Buell-Frazier/06xt7gjtck2
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/03/07/jfk-why-buell-wesley-frazier-was-erased-from-altgens6/
 
WHY CAN"T i find aany thing on FRAZIERS Army record???


Mr. BALL - How long have you worked there?
Mr. FRAZIER - I have been working there since September.
Mr. BALL - September of 1963?
Mr. BALL - What--where is the employment agency and what is its name when you first applied for a job?
Mr. FRAZIER - Well, I went to several but, see, this one got me this job the main one was Massey, the employment agency, and it is over there on Shady Grove Road.
Mr. BALL - In Dallas?
Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; in Irving. '


Mr. BALL - How did you happen to get that job?
Mr. FRAZIER - Well, I went to see, first I come up there and started looking for a job and couldn't find one myself so I went to one of these employment agencies and through that a lady called up one morning, I was fixing to go out and look for one, I was looking for myself in the meantime when they were, too, and so she called up and gave me a tip to it if I was interested in a job like that I could go over there and see about that and for the time being I wasn't working and needed some money and so I did and I went over there and saw Mr. Truly, and he gave me an interview, and then he hired me the same day I went over there.
Mr. BALL - Then you started work there about what date in September?
Mr. FRAZIER - It was the 13th. I say that was the same day I went for an interview. I went early enough that morning that he told me to come back after lunch.
Mr. BALL - And you are still working there?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL - When Mr. Truly hired you did he tell you it would be a full-time job or just a temporary job?
Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; he told me that he was looking for somebody full time and I told him, well, that is what I wanted, and so he said that would be just fine.
Mr. BALL - How much did he start to pay you?
Mr. FRAZIER - He started me off with a dollar and a quarter an hour.

A recurring theme in Pash testimony to Church Committee was the planning of using Cossacks in Alaska as front line troops. He went as far as stating that he read resently  that Government was going to send Doukhobors to Alaska. I had to laugh because i have relatives who our Doukhobors and i know its against there religion to join any army 

Why did Pash bring up Cosscks and Russian expats in South America ? Maybe some of answers are within this

Did Americans fake top Nazi's WWII suicide?
  and
BIW - Don Richardson
www.baseballinwartime.com


The Repatriation of Cossacks after the Second World War refers to the forced repatriation to the USSR of the Cossacks and ethnic Russians and Ukrainians who were allies of Nazi Germany during the Second World War

Fort Dix, New Jersey, United States[edit]

Although repatriations are thought to have occurred only in Europe, it also occurred in the United States at Fort Dix, New Jersey, where 154 people were repatriated to the USSR after the Second World War; three committed suicide in the US, and seven were injure

Terry W. Martin wrote:

gerrrycam wrote:Psychiatric Report  Jack Ruby

Young Jack soon showed the effects of parental discord. On June 6, 1922, at the age of 11, he was referred to the Institute for Juvenile Research by the Jewish Social Service Bureau. The reason for the referral was "truancy and incorrigible at home." 45 On July 10, 1922, the institute recommended to the bureau that Jack be placed in a new environment where his characteristics might be understood and where he might be afforded the supervision and recreation that would end his interest in street gangs.46 In March 1923, the institute advised the bureau that "placement in a home, where intelligent supervision and discipline can be given" was appropriate.47

The institute's psychiatric examination, which served as a basis for these recommendations, took place in 1922, prior to the advent of many techniques and theories of modern psychiatry,48 but it is the most objective evidence of Jack Ruby's childhood character. According to the psychiatric report, Jack was "quick tempered" and "disobedient." 49 He frequently disagreed openly with his mother, whom he considered an inferior person with whose rules he did not have to comply.50 Jack told the institute's interviewer that he ran away from home because his mother lied to him and beat him.51 Although Mrs. Rubenstein was severe with her children, she was described as totally incapable of coping with them "because of their delinquencies, i.e., principally their destructive tendencies and disregard for other people's property." 52 His mother's "extreme temperament" and quarrelsomeness were cited as possible causes of Jack's "bad behavior." 53

This is fascinating as it sounds similar to what Ozzie went through as a "troubled youth" some twenty years later.

I wonder if Ruby might not have been someone's project from an earlier period of the same mind-game people that played with Ozzie.

And I also wonder if they might not be able to lead us back to those that were controlling Leon Czolgosz?

Terry, you've wondered into my terrain...

The "Institute for Juvenile Research" was known originally as the "Juvenile Psychopathic Institute". The name change simply reflected a more intense focusing on "research", particularly in the area of delinquency among East European immigrant families. There was a close relationship between this institute and the Michael Reese hospital where Ruby's mother spent quite a bit of time, and was eventually "outed" in the Clinton era as a place that conducted human radiation experiments on unsuspecting patients. Ruby's mother was transferred at least twice from memory from Micheal Reese to the State Mental hospital.   


A similar concern about truancy among immigrants swept NY at around the same time... and in stepped the Lavanburg Foundation run by the Staus family (members of which were later connected to CIA/Rosenbergs/Paines), building and operating immigrant housing projects... and Youth House.

greg parker wrote:

Terry W. Martin wrote:

gerrrycam wrote:Psychiatric Report  Jack Ruby

Young Jack soon showed the effects of parental discord. On June 6, 1922, at the age of 11, he was referred to the Institute for Juvenile Research by the Jewish Social Service Bureau. The reason for the referral was "truancy and incorrigible at home." 45 On July 10, 1922, the institute recommended to the bureau that Jack be placed in a new environment where his characteristics might be understood and where he might be afforded the supervision and recreation that would end his interest in street gangs.46 In March 1923, the institute advised the bureau that "placement in a home, where intelligent supervision and discipline can be given" was appropriate.47

The institute's psychiatric examination, which served as a basis for these recommendations, took place in 1922, prior to the advent of many techniques and theories of modern psychiatry,48 but it is the most objective evidence of Jack Ruby's childhood character. According to the psychiatric report, Jack was "quick tempered" and "disobedient." 49 He frequently disagreed openly with his mother, whom he considered an inferior person with whose rules he did not have to comply.50 Jack told the institute's interviewer that he ran away from home because his mother lied to him and beat him.51 Although Mrs. Rubenstein was severe with her children, she was described as totally incapable of coping with them "because of their delinquencies, i.e., principally their destructive tendencies and disregard for other people's property." 52 His mother's "extreme temperament" and quarrelsomeness were cited as possible causes of Jack's "bad behavior." 53

This is fascinating as it sounds similar to what Ozzie went through as a "troubled youth" some twenty years later.

I wonder if Ruby might not have been someone's project from an earlier period of the same mind-game people that played with Ozzie.

And I also wonder if they might not be able to lead us back to those that were controlling Leon Czolgosz?

Terry, you've wondered into my terrain...

The "Institute for Juvenile Research" was known originally as the "Juvenile Psychopathic Institute". The name change simply reflected a more intense focusing on "research", particularly in the area of delinquency among East European immigrant families. There was a close relationship between this institute and the Michael Reese hospital where Ruby's mother spent quite a bit of time, and was eventually "outed" in the Clinton era as a place that conducted human radiation experiments on unsuspecting patients. Ruby's mother was transferred at least twice from memory from Micheal Reese to the State Mental hospital.   


A similar concern about truancy among immigrants swept NY at around the same time... and in stepped the Lavanburg Foundation run by the Staus family (members of which were later connected to CIA/Rosenbergs/Paines), building and operating immigrant housing projects... and Youth House.

Yes, it reminded me a lot of what was in Lee Harvey Oswald's Cold War. I'm glad to see that you have already looked into the similarities with what Ruby went through.

Curioser and curioser...

She found it too painful to see so much as an image of her husband’s face—the face she had been looking into when the fatal bullet struck.
http://www.vanityfair.com/society/2014/10/jacqueline-kennedy-jfk-assassination-depression

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGfLVtsd0mM


Babushka, Moorman, Kennedy, Assassins Weapon
 GC -Good use of film evadence


One more strick against Pash. What are odds against two Russians, Zapruder and Babushka man Coincidentally filming JFK fattal shot?

Orville Nix, version 1 (AVI, 3.41 MB

Orville Nix was interviewed in 1966 by investigator Mark Lane for his documentary Rush to Judgment. In a filmed interview undertaken by Lane, he also stated that the film he received back was not identical to the one that he shot. He told Lane that at the time of the assassination, he believed that the shots came from behind the fence on the grassy knoll, but was later told that conclusive proof existed that shots only came from the Texas School Book Depository and that he was convinced by this.He was also interviewed by CBS News in 1967 for a television documentary on the Kennedy assassination.

gerrrycam wrote:She found it too painful to see so much as an image of her husband’s face—the face she had been looking into when the fatal bullet struck.
http://www.vanityfair.com/society/2014/10/jacqueline-kennedy-jfk-assassination-depression

The most powerful act of defiance that day was Jackie refusing to change her bloodstained dress when LBJ was sworn in. Not only was it highly symbolic but I am sure she gained much of her strength of character from that single gesture. She may have been in shock but her purpose was clear.

Paul, Jackie said " t want them to see what they did"  It's up to us that they do.

gerrrycam wrote:Paul, Jackie said " t want them to see what they did"  It's up to us that they do.

Gerry, I am not emotionally invested in the tragedy of it all but I'd be made of stone not to be affected by what Jackie went through that day and the grace that she displayed in the aftermath.

http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/headshot.htm
of another bullet from the front in the right temple.

Convoluted Serendipity report to NONSGTR on relationship of JOHN B HUNT, DENNIS HYMAN OFSTEIN ,Boris Pash, LEE H OSWALD and MANCHURIAN  CANDITATE,                                    LHO tried to phone John B Hunt from his dallas jail cell




obituary was published in the New York Times
 John B. Hurt, Retired Aide Of National Security Unit
August 9, 1966, Tuesday
Page 37, John B. Hurt, retired dean of the linguistics staff of the National Security Agency, died Monday morning of a heart attack. He was 62 years old ...
and lived at 330 Third Avenue. Mr. Hurt worked for the Government agency when it was the Signal Intelligence Service of the War Department from
1930 to 1963. He was the agency's expert on Oriental languages. Mr. Hurt is survived by his widow, Mrs. Ana Drittle Hurt, a Russian-born cellist; his
mother, Mrs. Anna Hurt of Wytheville, VA; two sisters and three brothers




 DENNIS HYMAN OFSTEIN  worked for National Security Agency

Pash and Japanies Russian code buster JOHN B HUNT worked on original Manchurian Candadate Japanese researcher Dr.SHIRO ishii

UNIT 731;PAPERS in Japan 1946




LHO had John B Hunt phone number (maybe a 2nd John B Hunt ex Army intelligence)
 
Following the hearings,about US POW an Army spokesman stated that the U.S. had no "documentary evidence to corroborate the allegations" of the former POWs, because all records related to Ishii's activities had been returned to the Japanese government in the late 1950s, and no copies had been retained.

Pash had a Japanese  ALSOS Project that included Dr Ishii in 1946
After noting that the Geneva Protocol of 1925 prohibited "the use of bacteriological methods of warfare," a young Japanese army officer and bacteriologist, Dr. Shiro Ishii, nonetheless convinced his superiors in 1935 that he be allowed to research the many potentialities of germ warfare. By 1937, the ambitious Ishii had established a vast germ warfare complex in Pingfan, a small village outside the Manchurian city of Harbin. The complex, innocuously dubbed Unit 731, was composed of over 150 buildings and nearly 3,500 researchers and employees.
Mr. JENNER. You were born in China
Mr. JENNER. Our information is it was at Harbin.
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. It is Manchuria. The northern part of China, close to the Siberian border.
Mr. JENNER. You have a brother whose name is Sergei, do you not?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. Sergei Michail Fomenko
Mrs DeM brother worked on Manhattan Project and Pash and  possibly FBI agent  John Fain investigated him for his union activitied  at Berkeleys Radiation Lab
SMALL WORLD eh

V Number         Name       Service Number    Biographacal Notes

V2870 Pash, Boris T 275706 Head of WWII "ALSOS Mission" Military intelligence unit that tracked down Nazi scientists in closing days of the war.

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https://www.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/national/13inmate_ProjectMKULTRA.pdf

Worthwell reading pages 70 to 84 for a capsule of MKULTRA from 1953 to 1963

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB54/st02.pdf

LHO had "TOTLE ISOLATION FOR 42 DAYS" brig Japan June 27,1958 to Aug 13, 1958